5 Most Over-Rated NFL Players- Agree or Disagree and Your Thoughts

5. MLB Rey Lewis, Baltimore Ravens: Rey Lewis is a future Hall of Famer and no doubt is one of the best linebackers of the last decade. But the last 4 years, Lewis has been grossly over-rated. Still going to the Pro Bowl, Lewis was decribed by one scout as a "liability in coverage for years now", and that you can "run right at him and push him around." As seen in several occasions last season, Lewis made huge mistakes in coverage, and the Ravens gave up more yards per game to tight ends than any team in the NFL. His late hit on Chad Ochocinco last season was the perfect example of Lewis being way too late to get over in coverage. With Darnell Elerby showing he can get after running backs and Tavares Gooden a fast, athletic coverage linebacker, Lewis should FINALLY go to the bench on third down and should be fazed out soon.

4. DE Robert Mathis, Indianapolis Colts: Considered part of a terrorizing duo of pass rushing defensive ends, Robert Mathis on paper has impressive numbers. But a look at the film shows Mathis as a painfully average player who benefits from the constant double teams of Dwight Freeney, the Cover 2 scheme and the lack of elite talent at the RT position in the NFL. Mathis is what I consider a "shark" player; a guy who can smell blood in the water(ie, a scrub RT) and take advantage, but when dealing with an elite tackle, Mathis is often completely taken out of the game. A breakdown of Mathis' stats last season shows that Mathis was rarely a factor against good RT's. The Tennessee Titans All-Pro RT David Stewart held Mathis is a total of 2 tackles in 2 games. The Denver Broncos talented young RT Ryan Harris also held Mathis to 1 tackle. And Pro Bowl Saints RT Jon Stinchcomb held Mathis stat-less in the Super Bowl. Mathis rarely makes an impact against premiere RT's, and his lack of size(6'2, 245) has made him consistently the worst run defending DE in the NFL.

3. OLB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore Ravens: Despite the praise often heaped on Suggs by scouts and fans, Suggs has not had double digit sacks 2004. In fact, Suggs was not even the leading pass rusher on the Ravens the last 2 seasons. A notoriously slow starter who often takes half a season just to get into shape, Suggs usually makes 1 or 2 big time splash plays a season, and NFL observers everywhere lose thier minds and man crush on Suggs. Suggs certainly has the physical tools to consistently dominate, but rarely does so, despite what many think.

2. LT Matt Light, New England Patriots: Consistently named as one of the best LT's in the NFL every year, Light rarely plays up to his reputation as a preimere blineside protector. Light is smart and a technically sound player, but he lacks size(6'4, 305), athleticsim, and strength. He is consistently pushed around by defense ends and linebackers, who can bullrush, swim and flat out run past Light most of the time. His game film rarely supports his glowing press releases.

1. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants: Little Eli had his best statistical season in 2009, and yet the Giants went 8-8. Eli's career stats are not much to speak of(57% completion percentage 125-88 TD-to-INT ratio), but his ability to carry a team is the major knock against Manning. Manning is 11-36 when the Giants average less than 4 yards per carry and when they give up more than 21 points a game. Manning is a notoriously streaky passer who rarely wins games without a dominating running game and defense. Last season, behind a solid O-Line and with great receivers, Manning was asked to carry the G-Men for the first time in his career that has been heaped with praise. And he stuggled to do so greatly. With his last name and Big Apple connections, Manning is easily the most over-rated player in the NFL.

1. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants: Little Eli had his best statistical season in 2009, and yet the Giants went 8-8. Eli's career stats are not much to speak of(57% completion percentage 125-88 TD-to-INT ratio), but his ability to carry a team is the major knock against Manning. Manning is 11-36 when the Giants average less than 4 yards per carry and when they give up more than 21 points a game. Manning is a notoriously streaky passer who rarely wins games without a dominating running game and defense. Last season, behind a solid O-Line and with great receivers, Manning was asked to carry the G-Men for the first time in his career that has been heaped with praise. And he stuggled to do so greatly. With his last name and Big Apple connections, Manning is easily the most over-rated player in the NFL.

heysharpshooter

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You're acting as if people heap praise on Eli Manning by the boatloads. Everytime a major sports news outlet or even fans list the best QB's, Eli's barely ever mentioned. I'm not saying he deserves to be mentioned within those ranks, but really, your reasons as to why he's overrated are ridiculous. According to you, he's overrated because he plays in New York and his last name is Manning? Really?? The NY media scrutinzes him to no end, and only let up on him recently because of the Superbowl win. And as every fan/analyst will tell you, Eli is no where near Peyton's level.

The Giants defense last year was probably the worst it's been in nearly 20 years, yet Eli, with a young recieving corps, led them to an 8-8 record. I fail to see how he struggled greatly. He may not be a top flight QB(like Brady, Peyton and Brees) but no one with an IQ above 70 says he is. The consensus on him is that he's an above average QB. But according to you, he gets too much praise? Please. :lol:

I agree with Ray Lewis, and I pointed this out to my brother, but when someone is tackled and Ray is the absolute last player to get to the ball, commentators say he made the tackle then talk about how good he is...

It's so annoying.

Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! jshaas

That is totally dependant on the defensive coverage they are running.

Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! jshaas

:lol: I knew someone would say Romo. Last year it was oh he can't win a big game. Oh he can't win in December. Oh he can't win a playoff game. What is it now? Awesome job giving us a reason dude.

Matt Light is truly horrible. As a Pats fan I watch most, if not every 1 of their games and every game Light messes up one way or another and I have known and seen this for years, yet the announcers always say about how good he is and whatnot and it makes me scratch my head.

I have never really heard anyone praise Manning he gets more doubts and questions then praise I find

Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! jshaas

Ray Lewis is the best middle linebacker of all time in my opinion, but he's not that guy anymore and i don't think anyone says he is. So to have him on this list doesn't make much sense because it seems like you penalized him for his all time greatness he displayed during his prime.

:lol: I knew someone would say Romo. Last year it was oh he can't win a big game.

Put_in_Kitna

And he didn't win a big game. Beating a marginal playoff team like Philly is what Romo should have done. He came right back down to earth the following week against Minnesota compiling that glowing 66.1 QB rating enroute to a 34-3 laugher.

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

:lol: I knew someone would say Romo. Last year it was oh he can't win a big game.

QuistisTrepe_

And he didn't win a big game. Beating a marginal playoff team like Philly is what Romo should have done. He came right back down to earth the following week against Minnesota compiling that glowing 66.1 QB rating enroute to a 34-3 laugher.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

:lol: I knew someone would say Romo. Last year it was oh he can't win a big game.

Bobbles

And he didn't win a big game. Beating a marginal playoff team like Philly is what Romo should have done. He came right back down to earth the following week against Minnesota compiling that glowing 66.1 QB rating enroute to a 34-3 laugher.

And here come the excuses. I did watch the game. He played terrible because he can't handle playoff pressure.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

And he didn't win a big game. Beating a marginal playoff team like Philly is what Romo should have done. He came right back down to earth the following week against Minnesota compiling that glowing 66.1 QB rating enroute to a 34-3 laugher.

QuistisTrepe_

And here come the excuses. I did watch the game. He played terrible because he can't handle playoff pressure.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"] Yeah, he came back down to earth when he had absolutely no time to throw the ball. Did you watch the game at all or just look at the stat sheet? Once Flozell went down, the Minnesota defense was in the Cowboys backfield about as fast as Dallas could snap the ball, it was embarrassing for the OL. Even before that Marc Colombo was getting his lunch eaten by some DE hardly anybody knows(not Jared Allen). What did you want Romo to do? Break 3 tackles and throw the ball?Bobbles

And here come the excuses. I did watch the game. He played terrible because he can't handle playoff pressure.

Yeah, and? The Giants defense just played well, Brady played lousy. That doesn't prove anything.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

And here come the excuses. I did watch the game. He played terrible because he can't handle playoff pressure.

QuistisTrepe_

Yeah, and? The Giants defense just played well, Brady played lousy. That doesn't prove anything.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

1. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants: Little Eli had his best statistical season in 2009, and yet the Giants went 8-8. Eli's career stats are not much to speak of(57% completion percentage 125-88 TD-to-INT ratio), but his ability to carry a team is the major knock against Manning. Manning is 11-36 when the Giants average less than 4 yards per carry and when they give up more than 21 points a game. Manning is a notoriously streaky passer who rarely wins games without a dominating running game and defense. Last season, behind a solid O-Line and with great receivers, Manning was asked to carry the G-Men for the first time in his career that has been heaped with praise. And he stuggled to do so greatly. With his last name and Big Apple connections, Manning is easily the most over-rated player in the NFL.

SaintBlaze

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You're acting as if people heap praise on Eli Manning by the boatloads. Everytime a major sports news outlet or even fans list the best QB's, Eli's barely ever mentioned. I'm not saying he deserves to be mentioned within those ranks, but really, your reasons as to why he's overrated are ridiculous. According to you, he's overrated because he plays in New York and his last name is Manning? Really?? The NY media scrutinzes him to no end, and only let up on him recently because of the Superbowl win. And as every fan/analyst will tell you, Eli is no where near Peyton's level.

The Giants defense last year was probably the worst it's been in nearly 20 years, yet Eli, with a young recieving corps, led them to an 8-8 record. I fail to see how he struggled greatly. He may not be a top flight QB(like Brady, Peyton and Brees) but no one with an IQ above 70 says he is. The consensus on him is that he's an above average QB. But according to you, he gets too much praise? Please. :lol:

At one point, Tony Cornhieser said he thought Eli was better than Peyton. And Eli gets much more praise than he deserves, because people often put him in the group below Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rothlesburger, when the film and stats also show he's below Rivers, Rodgers, Romo and McNabb. I'd even say Matt Schaub is better than Eli.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

And he didn't win a big game. Beating a marginal playoff team like Philly is what Romo should have done. He came right back down to earth the following week against Minnesota compiling that glowing 66.1 QB rating enroute to a 34-3 laugher.

QuistisTrepe_

And here come the excuses. I did watch the game. He played terrible because he can't handle playoff pressure.

He had just come off a playoff win.:| No pressure? Uh division rival, playing for 3rd that year, constant talk about cowboys last playoff win, and lets not forget the previous pressure he had for the fumbled snap. So uh how do you destroy a division rival in the playoffs if you can't handle pressure?

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"] More like facts. No QB is going to have a good game when the offensive line is getting beat every play. How did Tom Brady do against the Giants' pass rush in the SB a few years ago? Not that great huh? Oh I wonder why. Bobbles

Yeah, and? The Giants defense just played well, Brady played lousy. That doesn't prove anything.

I actually do understand the battle in the trenches. I can spot poor play at the QB position when I see it.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

Yeah, and? The Giants defense just played well, Brady played lousy. That doesn't prove anything.

QuistisTrepe_

I actually do understand the battle in the trenches. I can spot poor play at the QB position when I see it.

No QB plays well with defenders hitting them, period. And Brady still played pretty well. That game was a fluke. 9 out of 10 times, the Pats would have won that game, but that day belonged to Justin Tuck. Another Matt Light failure, actually.

Matt Light is truly horrible. As a Pats fan I watch most, if not every 1 of their games and every game Light messes up one way or another and I have known and seen this for years, yet the announcers always say about how good he is and whatnot and it makes me scratch my head.

I have never really heard anyone praise Manning he gets more doubts and questions then praise I find

Colin1192

They need to start Sebastian Vollmer. That guy... 6'7, 315 pound men shouls not move like he does. If he doesn't start at one of the tackle spots, the Pats are stupid. Vollmer destroyed Dwight Freeney...

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"] If you don't understand that the trench battle is one of the most important aspects of football, then this is just hopeless. heysharpshooter

I actually do understand the battle in the trenches. I can spot poor play at the QB position when I see it.

No QB plays well with defenders hitting them, period. And Brady still played pretty well. That game was a fluke. 9 out of 10 times, the Pats would have won that game, but that day belonged to Justin Tuck. Another Matt Light failure, actually.

QBs can play well through guys hitting them. Kurt Warner did it and he played behind terrible O-lines. Peyton Manning can do it. Shoot, even Rofflesberger can do it.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

I actually do understand the battle in the trenches. I can spot poor play at the QB position when I see it.

QuistisTrepe_

No QB plays well with defenders hitting them, period. And Brady still played pretty well. That game was a fluke. 9 out of 10 times, the Pats would have won that game, but that day belonged to Justin Tuck. Another Matt Light failure, actually.

QBs can play well through guys hitting them. Kurt Warner did it and he played behind terrible O-lines. Peyton Manning can do it. Shoot, even Rofflesberger can do it.

Peyton Manning is about as mobile as I am. And Kurt Warner actually almost had to retire after playing behind a shoddy line in St. Louis. I mean, really what you said made no sense accept for Rothlesburger. And Rothlesburger actually does it the wrong way. The QB textbook says to throw the ball away under pressure. Rothlesburger is a unique athlete.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

1. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants: Little Eli had his best statistical season in 2009, and yet the Giants went 8-8. Eli's career stats are not much to speak of(57% completion percentage 125-88 TD-to-INT ratio), but his ability to carry a team is the major knock against Manning. Manning is 11-36 when the Giants average less than 4 yards per carry and when they give up more than 21 points a game. Manning is a notoriously streaky passer who rarely wins games without a dominating running game and defense. Last season, behind a solid O-Line and with great receivers, Manning was asked to carry the G-Men for the first time in his career that has been heaped with praise. And he stuggled to do so greatly. With his last name and Big Apple connections, Manning is easily the most over-rated player in the NFL.

heysharpshooter

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You're acting as if people heap praise on Eli Manning by the boatloads. Everytime a major sports news outlet or even fans list the best QB's, Eli's barely ever mentioned. I'm not saying he deserves to be mentioned within those ranks, but really, your reasons as to why he's overrated are ridiculous. According to you, he's overrated because he plays in New York and his last name is Manning? Really?? The NY media scrutinzes him to no end, and only let up on him recently because of the Superbowl win. And as every fan/analyst will tell you, Eli is no where near Peyton's level.

The Giants defense last year was probably the worst it's been in nearly 20 years, yet Eli, with a young recieving corps, led them to an 8-8 record. I fail to see how he struggled greatly. He may not be a top flight QB(like Brady, Peyton and Brees) but no one with an IQ above 70 says he is. The consensus on him is that he's an above average QB. But according to you, he gets too much praise? Please. :lol:

At one point, Tony Cornhieser said he thought Eli was better than Peyton. And Eli gets much more praise than he deserves, because people often put him in the group below Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rothlesburger, when the film and stats also show he's below Rivers, Rodgers, Romo and McNabb. I'd even say Matt Schaub is better than Eli.

Bold: WOAH man. That must mean everyone thinks Eli is better than Peyton. :|

The rest of your post: :lol:

Newsflash smart guy, what you posted right there is what nearly every NFL fan/analyst thinks of Eli. You're basically greeing with the general opinion on Eli, which would contradict your ridiculous point that he's overrated. I've said it before, the consensus is that Eli is just an above average quarterback, who also happens to be clutch and a good leader. Another poster even said it earlier, there's more questions and scrutiny surrounding Eli than there is overwhelming praise. Maybe you should go learn what the term "overrated" means. :lol:

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

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You're acting as if people heap praise on Eli Manning by the boatloads. Everytime a major sports news outlet or even fans list the best QB's, Eli's barely ever mentioned. I'm not saying he deserves to be mentioned within those ranks, but really, your reasons as to why he's overrated are ridiculous. According to you, he's overrated because he plays in New York and his last name is Manning? Really?? The NY media scrutinzes him to no end, and only let up on him recently because of the Superbowl win. And as every fan/analyst will tell you, Eli is no where near Peyton's level.

The Giants defense last year was probably the worst it's been in nearly 20 years, yet Eli, with a young recieving corps, led them to an 8-8 record. I fail to see how he struggled greatly. He may not be a top flight QB(like Brady, Peyton and Brees) but no one with an IQ above 70 says he is. The consensus on him is that he's an above average QB. But according to you, he gets too much praise? Please. :lol:

SaintBlaze

At one point, Tony Cornhieser said he thought Eli was better than Peyton. And Eli gets much more praise than he deserves, because people often put him in the group below Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rothlesburger, when the film and stats also show he's below Rivers, Rodgers, Romo and McNabb. I'd even say Matt Schaub is better than Eli.

Bold: WOAH man. That must mean everyone thinks Eli is better than Peyton. :|

The rest of your post: :lol:

Newsflash smart guy, what you posted right there is what nearly every NFL fan/analyst thinks of Eli. You're basically greeing with the general opinion on Eli, which would contradict your ridiculous point that he's overrated. I've said it before, the consensus is that Eli is just an above average quarterback, who also happens to be clutch and a good leader. Another poster even said it earlier, there's more questions and scrutiny surrounding Eli than there is overwhelming praise. Maybe you should go learn what the term "overrated" means. :lol:

Clutch? The Giants went 8-8 because Eli would throw game losing picks and miss wide open receivers.

A good leader? Tiki Barber used to get pissed because Eli would blame his receivers for mistakes he made. He's been quoted throwing his players under the bus on more than one occasion for interceptions, and when he gets sacked he often berates his offensive lineman.

Eli is not even above average, hes average at best. He was even over-rated when he won SB MVP, as he didn't even deserve it.

I can tell your a Giants fan, but the numbers don't lie: Eli is painfully average, and not even a top 10 guy, but gets paid, treated and acts like a top 10 guy.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

No QB plays well with defenders hitting them, period. And Brady still played pretty well. That game was a fluke. 9 out of 10 times, the Pats would have won that game, but that day belonged to Justin Tuck. Another Matt Light failure, actually.

heysharpshooter

QBs can play well through guys hitting them. Kurt Warner did it and he played behind terrible O-lines. Peyton Manning can do it. Shoot, even Rofflesberger can do it.

Peyton Manning is about as mobile as I am. And Kurt Warner actually almost had to retire after playing behind a shoddy line in St. Louis. I mean, really what you said made no sense accept for Rothlesburger. And Rothlesburger actually does it the wrong way. The QB textbook says to throw the ball away under pressure. Rothlesburger is a unique athlete.

I didn't think I was being cryptic. Ok, let's try this again. Good QBs manage to play through the hits. So this crap about people covering for a notorious choker like Romo because he had to face pressure is weaksauce. It's playoff football. Every QB plays against intensity and takes a lot of punishment.

It's about maintaining composure in the pocket and getting the ball away.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

QBs can play well through guys hitting them. Kurt Warner did it and he played behind terrible O-lines. Peyton Manning can do it. Shoot, even Rofflesberger can do it.

QuistisTrepe_

Peyton Manning is about as mobile as I am. And Kurt Warner actually almost had to retire after playing behind a shoddy line in St. Louis. I mean, really what you said made no sense accept for Rothlesburger. And Rothlesburger actually does it the wrong way. The QB textbook says to throw the ball away under pressure. Rothlesburger is a unique athlete.

I didn't think I was being cryptic. Ok, let's try this again. Good QBs manage to play through the hits. So this crap about people covering for a notorious choker like Romo because he had to face pressure is weaksauce. It's playoff football. Every QB plays against intensity and takes a lot of punishment.

It's about maintaining composure in the pocket and getting the ball away.

Oh, I thought you were talking about Brady... but still, the rules do apply. Romo was under immense pressure... Jared Allen, Kevin Williams and Ray Edwards litterally hit him evey time he took a snap. Its hard to play well when that happens.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

At one point, Tony Cornhieser said he thought Eli was better than Peyton. And Eli gets much more praise than he deserves, because people often put him in the group below Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rothlesburger, when the film and stats also show he's below Rivers, Rodgers, Romo and McNabb. I'd even say Matt Schaub is better than Eli.

heysharpshooter

Bold: WOAH man. That must mean everyone thinks Eli is better than Peyton. :|

The rest of your post: :lol:

Newsflash smart guy, what you posted right there is what nearly every NFL fan/analyst thinks of Eli. You're basically greeing with the general opinion on Eli, which would contradict your ridiculous point that he's overrated. I've said it before, the consensus is that Eli is just an above average quarterback, who also happens to be clutch and a good leader. Another poster even said it earlier, there's more questions and scrutiny surrounding Eli than there is overwhelming praise. Maybe you should go learn what the term "overrated" means. :lol:

Clutch? The Giants went 8-8 because Eli would throw game losing picks and miss wide open receivers.

A good leader? Tiki Barber used to get pissed because Eli would blame his receivers for mistakes he made. He's been quoted throwing his players under the bus on more than one occasion for interceptions, and when he gets sacked he often berates his offensive lineman.

Eli is not even above average, hes average at best. He was even over-rated when he won SB MVP, as he didn't even deserve it.

I can tell your a Giants fan, but the numbers don't lie: Eli is painfully average, and not even a top 10 guy, but gets paid, treated and acts like a top 10 guy.

Bold: WOW. :lol: The Giants went 8-8 because the defense was GARBAGE. Eli and the recievers were the only bright spot of the season. How clueless are you? :lol: And how isn't he clutch? "The Colts' Peyton Manning may have better career numbers than his younger brother, Giants' QB Eli, but Eli trumps Peyton in clutchness. Eli, third on our list, has converted 13 comebacks in 27 opportunities (48%) to Peyton's 29 in 65 (45%)." - LINK

Tiki Barber? Really? He hasn't been on the team for 3 years! Eli's grown as a player since then and is a respected leader. He almost led a an unproven corps of recievers to the playoffs, if it weren't for the lackluster defense.

He didn't deserve Superbowl MVP? That's debateable, but you're acting as if he absolutely stole the award from another player. I guess you missed the completion to Tyree? Or the touchdown pass to Plaxico?

He'ss average at best? :lol: You haven't seen his best yet, so what in the world are you talking about? He had his best statistical season last year, when he was given more freedom to throw, due to the ineffectiveness of the run game. His stats have increased every year, but you act like he's completely plateaued.

He gets paid so well because he brough the Giants organization the first superbowl in nearly 20 years. he delivered the Lomabrdi trophy, they delivered the cash. It's a simple concept to grasp.

I can tell you're a clueless hater, but numbers don't tell the whole story because he's played on a run-oriented team for nearly his whole career.

He gets treated like a top 10 guy? By who? I've stated multiple times that the consensus on Eli is he's an above average QB, and more people scrutinze him than dump praise on him at every chance they get.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Peyton Manning is about as mobile as I am. And Kurt Warner actually almost had to retire after playing behind a shoddy line in St. Louis. I mean, really what you said made no sense accept for Rothlesburger. And Rothlesburger actually does it the wrong way. The QB textbook says to throw the ball away under pressure. Rothlesburger is a unique athlete.

heysharpshooter

I didn't think I was being cryptic. Ok, let's try this again. Good QBs manage to play through the hits. So this crap about people covering for a notorious choker like Romo because he had to face pressure is weaksauce. It's playoff football. Every QB plays against intensity and takes a lot of punishment.

It's about maintaining composure in the pocket and getting the ball away.

Oh, I thought you were talking about Brady... but still, the rules do apply. Romo was under immense pressure... Jared Allen, Kevin Williams and Ray Edwards litterally hit him evey time he took a snap. Its hard to play well when that happens.

That's the point. Everything moves faster in the postseason. Romo needs to take his game to the next level if he's going to overcome his failure to produce in the postseason. He has the physical tools to do it. All that is stopping him is in between his ears.

..........and maybe a better game manager than Wade Phillips.

[QUOTE="jshaas"]Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! Chutebox

That is totally dependant on the defensive coverage they are running.

[QUOTE="jshaas"]Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! Put_in_Kitna

:lol: I knew someone would say Romo. Last year it was oh he can't win a big game. Oh he can't win in December. Oh he can't win a playoff game. What is it now? Awesome job giving us a reason dude.

Reggie Bush - WAYYYY Overrated

Wes Welker - Very good player, but any #2 reciever who plays with Randy Moss will have comparable stats

Ben Roethlisberger- Has nothing to do with off the field stuff. Great defenses can help slighly abover par QB's win titles.

Roy Williams- Overrated under-achiever

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[QUOTE="jshaas"]Blog it. I don't think Ray Lewis is over-rated... he's just getting old (in football years). He's still revered as if he's his younger self. But he is still the key player on that defense, and nobody hits harder than Ray. My only question is this... if he's a MLB why is it his fault that the Ravens gave up so much yardage to TE's? Don't MLB's focus on the RB or QB? I would think that it's the OLB's job to cover the TE. Oh, and Eli Manning over-rated... really? What about Tony Romo?!?! jshaas

That is totally dependant on the defensive coverage they are running.

Calling Ray Lewis overrated, I didn't quite get that one. The guy is past his prime, we all know that. This season might be it for him. I cab't remember anyone calling him the best anymore.

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At one point, Tony Cornhieser said he thought Eli was better than Peyton. And Eli gets much more praise than he deserves, because people often put him in the group below Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rothlesburger, when the film and stats also show he's below Rivers, Rodgers, Romo and McNabb. I'd even say Matt Schaub is better than Eli.

heysharpshooter

Bold: WOAH man. That must mean everyone thinks Eli is better than Peyton. :|

The rest of your post: :lol:

Newsflash smart guy, what you posted right there is what nearly every NFL fan/analyst thinks of Eli. You're basically greeing with the general opinion on Eli, which would contradict your ridiculous point that he's overrated. I've said it before, the consensus is that Eli is just an above average quarterback, who also happens to be clutch and a good leader. Another poster even said it earlier, there's more questions and scrutiny surrounding Eli than there is overwhelming praise. Maybe you should go learn what the term "overrated" means. :lol:

Clutch? The Giants went 8-8 because Eli would throw game losing picks and miss wide open receivers.

A good leader? Tiki Barber used to get pissed because Eli would blame his receivers for mistakes he made. He's been quoted throwing his players under the bus on more than one occasion for interceptions, and when he gets sacked he often berates his offensive lineman.

Eli is not even above average, hes average at best. He was even over-rated when he won SB MVP, as he didn't even deserve it.

I can tell your a Giants fan, but the numbers don't lie: Eli is painfully average, and not even a top 10 guy, but gets paid, treated and acts like a top 10 guy.

i disagree with lewis and suggs but the rest of the list i agree with and i will put brett favre and tom brady on that list he's a cheater and i will never get over that.

Adrian Peterson has become overrated at this point.

Adrian Peterson has become overrated at this point.

Darth_Revan_666

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with that. The fumbles are an issue, but he quietly rushed for 1400 yards and 18 TDs last year. Plus, he did that with a primarily passing based offense. Since when does three consecutive 1,000+ yard seasons and 10+ TD seasons earn the overrated status?

The man lost 6 fumbles. Hardly the end of the world. When you consider he had 18 total TDs.i5750at4Ghz

I'm not attacking his talent, but I guarantee that Chris Johnson will be overrated going into the season. He just lead the league in carries and rushed over 2000 yards. Plus, he's only a 200-pounder. Recent history shows that the RBs with the most carries will regress the next year, and I'm sure Johnson is headed down that road. Plus, with him holding out on his contract and Vince Young's legal problems right now, his numbers will drop quite a bit next year.

I'm not attacking his talent, but I guarantee that Chris Johnson will be overrated going into the season. He just lead the league in carries and rushed over 2000 yards. Plus, he's only a 200-pounder. Recent history shows that the RBs with the most carries will regress the next year, and I'm sure Johnson is headed down that road. Plus, with him holding out on his contract and Vince Young's legal problems right now, his numbers will drop quite a bit next year.

Goliath_unit

I'm not attacking his talent, but I guarantee that Chris Johnson will be overrated going into the season. He just lead the league in carries and rushed over 2000 yards. Plus, he's only a 200-pounder. Recent history shows that the RBs with the most carries will regress the next year, and I'm sure Johnson is headed down that road. Plus, with him holding out on his contract and Vince Young's legal problems right now, his numbers will drop quite a bit next year.

Goliath_unit

Bad analysis, he could end up playing just as well this season, simply because of his running style. He doesnt get the same pounding that received past carries leaders like Larry Johnson, Jamal Lewis and Michael Turner.

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I'm not attacking his talent, but I guarantee that Chris Johnson will be overrated going into the season. He just lead the league in carries and rushed over 2000 yards. Plus, he's only a 200-pounder. Recent history shows that the RBs with the most carries will regress the next year, and I'm sure Johnson is headed down that road. Plus, with him holding out on his contract and Vince Young's legal problems right now, his numbers will drop quite a bit next year.

Darth_Revan_666

Bad analysis, he could end up playing just as well this season, simply because of his running style. He doesnt get the same pounding that received past carries leaders like Larry Johnson, Jamal Lewis and Michael Turner.

That is true, but he only 5-11 and weighs weighs 200 pounds, and he is a lot less capable of taking a heavy workload, and his body will be much more suseptible to breaking down than the likes of Turner, Johnson and Turner. Don't forget there are a lot of potential distractions for the Titans this season. Young is having legal problems and Johnson himself is threatening to hold out. Plus, if he falls under the same workout, like I already said, he'll have a difficult time keeping up because of his body type. Its hard for any RB to have such a heavy workload two years in a row. The only exceptions there have been since the 90's are Smith (twice) and Portis.

Wes Welker - Very good player, but any #2 reciever who plays with Randy Moss will have comparable statshkhatir