A Few rules about Sports that should be made.

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#1 Lostboy1224
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Every time I go to a basketball game (pro or college) I usually notice little things that should be implemented to better serve the fans and make the experience better for all. I am just going to mention a few, but add anything that you feel should be added as well.

1. For starters I would implement a rule that states once half time is over anyone sitting in the upper areas of the arena may move down from their nose bleed seats and join the experience of actually feeling like your at the game. If there are seats no one has claimed since half time then they are free to who ever sits there first. The point is to reward the real "fans" who sit up in the crap seats the whole game (win or lose) and move them closer so they can help their team create some crowd noise/support. I really can't stand seeing those rich guys who come in at the beginning of the second quarter and take their seats court side and then leave with 5 minutes to go in the game if the home team isn't winning. I salute them with a big Middle Finger in their face!

2. You know how they always have some promotion to give away free food towards the end of the game if the team reaches a 100? Flip that around and give food out from the get-go. Your team scores 40 in the 1st quarter, everyone gets a free popcorn. Your team wins 10 games in a row at home, you all get a free hotdog before the game starts. Home court means more then people give it credit for, so keep the fans happy and roaring from the start. Don't wait till the end of the game to see if they reach a 100 points so you can give out a free Chalupa coupon.

3. Reward the people who have been ticket holders from the beginning. I see people on the jumbo tron who have been season ticket holders for over 30 years. I think the Owners owe them a big thank you, as in free season tickets, 2 court side tickets to 10 home games, or free tickets through out the playoffs.

4. Don't charge us $70.00 for a player's jersey, especially when we know they are only going to get shipped out next year. Thats like investing in Catino Mobley jersey, where the hell is he know? Memphis, Orlando, Houston, LA? They should just give away those damn things, cause we won't be wearing them for long.

5. I am sick of players acting like it is torture to acknowledge fans (especially little kids) and ignore them completely the entire time they are on the premises of the arena. Just get the hell out of the league if you think your too important for the people who pay your salary. Yeah, we see those tv spots of guys spending like 2 hours taking photos with kids and then flying the coup faster then Superman. At least in baseball, people can come in early to batting practice and get autographs and feel like they are worthy to be in the player's presence. So it should be mandatory to spend a certain amount of time with fans before or after a game. If it wasn't for the fans these guys would be working at Walmart with the rest of us, instead of driving Ferrari's.

Thats all i have for the moment but add what you think should be changed about your sport.

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#2 manningbowl135
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The jersey rule is stupid. And teams already treat long-time season ticket holders special.
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#3 Jaysonguy
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All that list is comprised of is complaining about people with money (like that's a bad thing to have it) and asking for things that are undeserved
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#4 Lostboy1224
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So your saying true fans who have been there through the good and bad times don't deserve anything at all. They should just be glad that their team doesn't move out of town for a new arena? It would be nice to see the people who have access to these luxuries appreciate what they have, instead of acting like it doesn't matter at all.

If you have no complaints with anything then you are truly lucky.

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#5 Lostboy1224
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The jersey rule is stupid. And teams already treat long-time season ticket holders special.manningbowl135
Please give me an example you know to be fact because I don't really consider letting season ticket holders have first crack at buying playoff tickets a treat.
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#6 marchmadness1012
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#1 is dumb. what does that say to the fans right next to them that saved up the extra $100 to get better seats?

teams want to keep the fans who are willing to pay good money , not punish them.

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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]The jersey rule is stupid. And teams already treat long-time season ticket holders special.Lostboy1224
Please give me an example you know to be fact because I don't really consider letting season ticket holders have first crack at buying playoff tickets a treat.

The Packers and I think the Giants give autographed memoribilia to their long time ticket holders as a thank you I think. Those people are treated like frequent fliers are treated by the airlines.

After reading marchmadness, I agree with him on no.1.

No.2 doesn't make sense. You can't administer giving stuff away during the game. There's too many people. As for before the game, I think teams already have that in the form of bobbleheads, free t-shirts, bats, kid gloves, team towels etc.

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I'd hate to be up and going to the bathroom when some jerks move down into my seat...
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Those are all good ideas, i wish you were the owner of one of my teams :D
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Those are all good ideas, i wish you were the owner of one of my teams :DX360PS3AMD05

1 2 and 4 are not good ideas. and 3 has already been done often.

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1. Would never work, what if a guy is up buying Nachos? You could never figure out the seats that have been empty the whole time, or what order to bring the upper deck people down in.
2. Why would places purposely lose money by giving away free food? They're there for money, not your happiness. (Unless you go to PNC Park, they have an all-you-can-eat-section for the entire game)
3. They are rewarded..by special stuff, I believe through the mail or whatever. But free playoff tickets? Is that a joke?
4. It's your decision to buy a jersey, it's not the team's fault if you pick the wrong player.
5. I'm sure a lot of players do things for the community, but we only see half because we talk about the sport. It's their job, why should community service be a requirement?

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[QUOTE="Lostboy1224"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"]The jersey rule is stupid. And teams already treat long-time season ticket holders special.manningbowl135

Please give me an example you know to be fact because I don't really consider letting season ticket holders have first crack at buying playoff tickets a treat.

The Packers and I think the Giants give autographed memoribilia to their long time ticket holders as a thank you I think. Those people are treated like frequent fliers are treated by the airlines.

After reading marchmadness, I agree with him on no.1.

No.2 doesn't make sense. You can't administer giving stuff away during the game. There's too many people. As for before the game, I think teams already have that in the form of bobbleheads, free t-shirts, bats, kid gloves, team towels etc.

There is a waiting list of 30,000 names (approx 20 - 30 years) to get Pittsburgh Steelers season tickets. Their reward is getting to go to the game.
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I have a couple of things against pro sports here. CORPORATIONS HAVING LOWER DECK SEATS INSTEAD OF REAL FANS. This is something that bugs me the most because I hate seeing people that dont care about the game in general sitting in the front rows providing zero support for the home team. I think they should split fans of the 2 teams up. Obviously the away fans should get the nose bleeds but a few sections should be enough. Going to a Lakers or Clippers game and seeing all these fans from different teams in the front is dumb and always seems to provide a fight. If they split them, that means everybody around you is cheering for your home team not those random people jumping out in the front with their Bandwagon Celtic jersey.

Oh one more thing, SHOW SOME LOYALTY TO YOUR FANS BY NOT SKIPPING OUT OF TOWN. If this happened in my country people would go crazy and probably threaten the owners lives for taking away their long time team away from them. Dont blame the fans that you dont want to spend money to make a better team. Sonics are a good example because they have had a team their for as long as I can remember and it makes no sense for a team to keep a bad group of players together to lower attendance just to move their team where a cash cow is going to hook them up.

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Oh one more thing, SHOW SOME LOYALTY TO YOUR FANS BY NOT SKIPPING OUT OF TOWN. If this happened in my country people would go crazy and probably threaten the owners lives for taking away their long time team away from them. Dont blame the fans that you dont want to spend money to make a better team. Sonics are a good example because they have had a team their for as long as I can remember and it makes no sense for a team to keep a bad group of players together to lower attendance just to move their team where a cash cow is going to hook them up. balindos
Uh, what's the point of major league sports? One thing, and one thing only: MONEY. You said "don't blame the fans", well then, who are you supposed to blame? The owner with no money becuase the fans don't come?

I don't know about other cities, but I do know that when the Steelers struggled through the 80's and early 90's. The Rooney family (the greates owners in sports) made a deal with the fans: Buy our stuff even though we stink now, we'll take the extra money and put it into giving players bigger signing bonuses and attracting better players. Guess what? Both ends kept their side of the deal and the Steelers have been competitive ever since.

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[QUOTE="balindos"] Oh one more thing, SHOW SOME LOYALTY TO YOUR FANS BY NOT SKIPPING OUT OF TOWN. If this happened in my country people would go crazy and probably threaten the owners lives for taking away their long time team away from them. Dont blame the fans that you dont want to spend money to make a better team. Sonics are a good example because they have had a team their for as long as I can remember and it makes no sense for a team to keep a bad group of players together to lower attendance just to move their team where a cash cow is going to hook them up. blackngold29

Uh, what's the point of major league sports? One thing, and one thing only: MONEY. You said "don't blame the fans", well then, who are you supposed to blame? The owner with no money becuase the fans don't come?

I don't know about other cities, but I do know that when the Steelers struggled through the 80's and early 90's. The Rooney family (the greates owners in sports) made a deal with the fans: Buy our stuff even though we stink now, we'll take the extra money and put it into giving players bigger signing bonuses and attracting better players. Guess what? Both ends kept their side of the deal and the Steelers have been competitive ever since.

Well if you are not trying to make a good team then why should the fans pay? These owners drive the team down without even trying so they can book. Can this country ever think about something other than just money. That is all that people talk about and nothing else, MOney this and Money that. Do something right for a change instead of complete selfishness. I guess that is why I am not a fan of any American sports team. I do agree with what you said because it is the actual truth.

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#17 Lostboy1224
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You all have valid points. i know ideas are not perfect, but i just wanted to throw around suggestions and hear your ideas. Sorry if you don't care for mine, just suggest something better. If you just want to criticize then no big deal. The point was to make our experiences better without feeling like we are being taken advantage of, ripped off, or ignored all together. My thoughts were more for NBA games, so it wouldn't fit for all other sports, and I do think other sports do very positive things for their fans. Its just a shame that the NBA has the highest ticket prices in sports, and you don't seem to get full value for ticket.
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Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.
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Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.blackngold29

Player salary cap.

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#20 balindos
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.mrgab

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.balindos

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

:|

Players only get big contracts when they do something huge. And when an employee does something huge, they usually get rewarded with bonuses or...I don't know, job security.

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I agree and at the same time I dont agree.
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The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

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How about fans with no money shouldn't complain about people with money? :)feryl06
Exactly my point, before the moderators deleted it anyways.
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A no-tolerance fighting rule for baseball. I'm sick of seeing these players who have no idea how to fight think they're badass by clearing the benches when barely anything ever happens. They talk about speeding up the game, well eliminate that and you save 5-10 a game everytime it happens.

Also in baseball, which I completely stand by, is limit the amount of times a catcher can converse with the pitcher during an inning similar to the way the coaches can. There should also be a rule eliminating catcher-pitcher converations mid-at bat.

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The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

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[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.manningbowl135

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

:|

Players only get big contracts when they do something huge. And when an employee does something huge, they usually get rewarded with bonuses or...I don't know, job security.

Lets not forget that if any employee stops caring about his job no matter what huge thing he has done will still get fired. I just dont like players like Adonal Foyle getting paid 10 mil a year to sit the bench.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.balindos

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

There aren't that many good baseball players that allows a team to treat them like some quickie mart employee. If a team tried that nobody would sign with them.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

balindos
[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.manningbowl135

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

:|

Players only get big contracts when they do something huge. And when an employee does something huge, they usually get rewarded with bonuses or...I don't know, job security.

Lets not forget that if any employee stops caring about his job no matter what huge thing he has done will still get fired. I just dont like players like Adonal Foyle getting paid 10 mil a year to sit the bench.

And if that employee gets fired, he'll get a huge severence pay if that huge thing he did earned him job security. The same way in sports. Players like Foyle can be fired if he stops caring, but he'll get that payoff.

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[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

manningbowl135
[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.manningbowl135

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

:|

Players only get big contracts when they do something huge. And when an employee does something huge, they usually get rewarded with bonuses or...I don't know, job security.

Lets not forget that if any employee stops caring about his job no matter what huge thing he has done will still get fired. I just dont like players like Adonal Foyle getting paid 10 mil a year to sit the bench.

And if that employee gets fired, he'll get a huge severence pay if that huge thing he did earned him job security. The same way in sports. Players like Foyle can be fired if he stops caring, but he'll get that payoff.

Severance pay does not cover you for years and years. Just for a while.

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What a glorious entertainment business it all is !!! Yeah, not really. Owners can pay the players whatever they want but don't jack up ticket prices cause you signed a bunch of guys who can't live up to those contracts and then take it out on the fans. Or worse yet move the team cause you destroyed it financially. I would hate to be a sonic fan right now.
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The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

Jaysonguy

"Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced." i have to disagree with you here, the fans pay the athlete and the athlete should respect that and give the fans his time, without the fans he wouldn't have a job,

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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The disconnect is coming because some people are jealous of the money an athlete makes.

Here's the deal. An athlete is better then you are, even the last guy on the bench who never sees the field is better then you are and because of that they get the perks that come along with it. If you want those perks then practice and see if you can take his spot, guess what? You can't.

Should an athlete meet with the fans? If he wants but in no way should he be forced.

I mean does Gates meet with everyone who has Windows installed each time they turn their computer on? Why then would anyone ask a player to visit with the fans after each practice?

balindos
[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Here's one: Salary cap in MLB.manningbowl135

Player salary cap.

I would rather let the teams pay them whatever amount they feel the player is worth but treat him like an employee. If you dont bring results, YOU ARE FIRED and no more pay. So it should be yearly salaries and with exceptions to valid injuries. No more contracts. I just hate seeing these players that do it for the money only and dont care to play anymore.

:|

Players only get big contracts when they do something huge. And when an employee does something huge, they usually get rewarded with bonuses or...I don't know, job security.

Lets not forget that if any employee stops caring about his job no matter what huge thing he has done will still get fired. I just dont like players like Adonal Foyle getting paid 10 mil a year to sit the bench.

And if that employee gets fired, he'll get a huge severence pay if that huge thing he did earned him job security. The same way in sports. Players like Foyle can be fired if he stops caring, but he'll get that payoff.

Severance pay does not cover you for years and years. Just for a while.

And normal employees don't have a $10 million salary. An employee's severance pay will be proportional to his salary.

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What a glorious entertainment business it all is !!! Yeah, not really. Owners can pay the players whatever they want but don't jack up ticket prices cause you signed a bunch of guys who can't live up to those contracts and then take it out on the fans. Or worse yet move the team cause you destroyed it financially. I would hate to be a sonic fan right now.Lostboy1224
You make it sound like teams move every other year. Sports obviously make money for everyone involved. They may jack up prices, but people pay them.