Ben Roethlisberger, Biggest Liability In The NFL RIght Now?

With Big Ben having been accused of rape AGAIN is he the biggest liability to his team?

I mean think about it. Everyone makes mistakes and puts themselves in a bad situation where this sort of accusation can arise but from that point on don't you consciously go out of your way to never be in that situation again? Especially when you are the face of the franchise and the most important member of the team?

I forget what athlete said this but he never goes in elevators alone with anyone male or female, he never allows himself to be in closed quarters with a woman when it's just the two of them, he makes sure that he has witnesses for everything he does because he's aware that just one false accusation could ruin everything for him.

Now Roethlisberger made one mistake and allowed himself to be in a situation where he could be accused and he came out of it relatively untouched. So what does he do? He does it again!

I understand that there's other athletes that put themselves in harm's way and the punishments for that may hurt their team but no one is on the same level as Roethlisberger. I mean the guy has two Superbowl rings yet he's still putting his team at risk by doing these things.

Anyone else think that no other player in the NFL is this much of a liability?

It was Albert Pujols who said that about the elevator thing, I think. But that's because he's being faithful to his wife since he's a devout Christian.

I think Favre takes his priest with him wherever he goes.

There's an interesting article on Big Ben on AOL which says that he's basically a dumb guy, which is really blatant coming form a journalist.

i hope everything people is saying about the rape stuff isnt true cause if it is he should be banned from the nfl

I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

Buck_Hotep

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I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

fastr

Not as a player, but just as a person. Really, for someone with all that talent his judgement when it comes to things off the field is almost Pacman Jones in its frequency.

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I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

fastr

It was Albert Pujols who said that about the elevator thing, I think. But that's because he's being faithful to his wife since he's a devout Christian.

I think Favre takes his priest with him wherever he goes.

There's an interesting article on Big Ben on AOL which says that he's basically a dumb guy, which is really blatant coming form a journalist.

ASK_Story

Dumb athlete=smart average person, at least in teh sense we're talking about. Any jerk can go to a bar, get drunk, have a one night stand, wake up the next day, and go on with his life, but if a person in the public sphere does it there's always someone who might try and squeeze some money out of him just for the hell of it.

Also, I'm loling at the fact that when Kobe gets accused of rape once he's guilty according to everybody, but Ben is accused twice and everyone's saying he just made a mistake. Not that I claim to know in any of those cases, I just hope that if those women really were raped they find some way to come to terms with it and, in the case of the pending cases, justice is served. If they weren't, I hope the innocent are found innocent and goldiggers everywhere learn a lesson about trying to scam people with a claim like that.

Either way, though, I don't fault Ben much at all, unless he really did do it. He's a single guy in his what, late twenties, early thirties, what's he supposed to do, sit in his hotel room and wait for a hot, available maid to come waltzing in? He's doing what anyone his age would be expected to be doing, and it doesn't really translate onto the field. To me, the people who are the biggest liability are the ones who keep getting arrested, convicted, and miss playing time like Tank Johnson a few years back, those are the people who really bring their team down.

First, I'm not defending what he allegedly did, because if it is true, in either account it is horrible.

However, he isn't being accused of rape in this case, he is being accused of sexual assault, they are very different and they have different punishments. Again that doesn't excuse that action, but one is much more serious than the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault

And while he is a liability, you can't excuse the fact that there are others in the NFL that have criminal records and even deaths associated with them. Again I am not saying that killing someone is worse or better than sexual assault or rape, but calling him the biggest liabilty when you have players that have killed people might be a little bit of a stretch. I mean how can you say what Stallworth, or Pacman Jones did, or what Ray Lewis was accused of, and plead out of,is better or worse than what Roethlisberger is, at this point, accused of?

Right now the worst thing that Roethlisberger can be guilty of is having very poor judgement. So being a liability to his team, certainly, but to the NFL, not right now.

First, I'm not defending what he allegedly did, because if it is true, in either account it is horrible.

However, he isn't being accused of rape in this case, he is being accused of sexual assault, they are very different and they have different punishments. Again that doesn't excuse that action, but one is much more serious than the other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault

And while he is a liability, you can't excuse the fact that there are others in the NFL that have criminal records and even deaths associated with them. Again I am not saying that killing someone is worse or better than sexual assault or rape, but calling him the biggest liabilty when you have players that have killed people might be a little bit of a stretch. I mean how can you say what Stallworth, or Pacman Jones did, or what Ray Lewis was accused of, and plead out of,is better or worse than what Roethlisberger is, at this point, accused of?

Right now the worst thing that Roethlisberger can be guilty of is having very poor judgement. So being a liability to his team, certainly, but to the NFL, not right now.

LOEAnubis

That may be true, but Roethlisberger has gotten into trouble numerous times. What happens when you get in trouble constantly? You become like Pacman Jones. Everyone was talking about what a great player he was on the Titans, but when he came back after suspension, he had clearly lost his edge. Ray Lewis was acquitted and while he shouldn't have been involved, he stayed out of trouble after that. Stallworth is much the same, he got penalized for what he did and now he's making his comeback with the Ravens, and as far as I can tell, he's not going to make another mistake like that.

I think he might be a bigger liability at this point than people think. He's in the meat of his 100 million dollar contract so if he gets suspended and he comes back a year later, the Steelers will have to pay the guy even if he's out of shape. This is the same issue with Brandon Marshall. He's on the hot seat with the commissioner and one more bad offense, he'll be suspended. That's why the Ravens made a play on Anquan Boldin instead. They want high character players who aren't at risk at being suspended or having disciplinary action taken against them. And with the pay day Marshall's looking for, Baltimore didn't want to risk that. Even though he has more upside than Boldin at this point in their respective careers. So yeah, he is a very big liability if this case gains steam.

As far as being a liability to the NFL, IF he is charged and legal action is taken, regardless of the outcome, the fact is his image has been tarnished. He is a role model and many look up to him. If that image is tarnished he becomes a liability because he is one of the faces of the NFL right now.

For the people who are saying he's not the biggest liability who do you think is?

Who else has the profile that Ben has and is also getting into trouble?

Ben is a Superbowl champ and has been the one saying "I'm goin' Dinnyland!"

Who else is doing things that is on the same level or higher then Ben?

That may be true, but Roethlisberger has gotten into trouble numerous times. What happens when you get in trouble constantly? You become like Pacman Jones. Everyone was talking about what a great player he was on the Titans, but when he came back after suspension, he had clearly lost his edge. Ray Lewis was acquitted and while he shouldn't have been involved, he stayed out of trouble after that. Stallworth is much the same, he got penalized for what he did and now he's making his comeback with the Ravens, and as far as I can tell, he's not going to make another mistake like that.

frostybanana

I think he might be a bigger liability at this point than people think. He's in the meat of his 100 million dollar contract so if he gets suspended and he comes back a year later, the Steelers will have to pay the guy even if he's out of shape. This is the same issue with Brandon Marshall. He's on the hot seat with the commissioner and one more bad offense, he'll be suspended. That's why the Ravens made a play on Anquan Boldin instead. They want high character players who aren't at risk at being suspended or having disciplinary action taken against them. And with the pay day Marshall's looking for, Baltimore didn't want to risk that. Even though he has more upside than Boldin at this point in their respective careers. So yeah, he is a very big liability if this case gains steam.frostybanana

As far as being a liability to the NFL, IF he is charged and legal action is taken, regardless of the outcome, the fact is his image has been tarnished. He is a role model and many look up to him. If that image is tarnished he becomes a liability because he is one of the faces of the NFL right now.

frostybanana

For the people who are saying he's not the biggest liability who do you think is?

Who else has the profile that Ben has and is also getting into trouble?

Ben is a Superbowl champ and has been the one saying "I'm goin' Dinnyland!"

Who else is doing things that is on the same level or higher then Ben?

Jaysonguy

Like I said, so far he hasn't missed any time and everything he's been accused of he's been cleared of or is pending, he honestly could have done absolutely nothing wrong in either case. Tank Johnson got caught with guns, arrested, then caught and implicated in a nightclub shooting, he did the same things over and over again and missed playing time because of it, same thing with Plaxico Burress. Pacman Jones and Michael Vick commited crimes they knew could carry significant jail time, crimes they knew could impact their playing time and yet they commited them anyways, and they ended up getting caught and missing jail time. To me, those people are the bigest liabilities. Not to say they can't change, someone like Tank Johnson turned his actions around, while someone like Pacman Jones has just continued to make people lose confidence. Vick, who knows what the future holds but so far so good. At any rate, though, going out and socializing isn't a crime and it seems like, in the last case, that was all he was guilty of. Now if he is going out and raping/sexually assaulting women then yes I think he would be a liability, but so far there's no evidence to say he has done either, and I would hope that if there were just about every team in the NFL would have more sense then to keep him on the roster.

Innocent until proven guilty? At least wait til he's charged first!marchmadness1012

True, but by putting himself in a situation that could get him in trouble shows his judgement leaves much to be desired. He's not a thug and/or criminal but I will call him stupid for putting himself in such sits.

I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

Buck_Hotep

Bingo. Even if he didn't assault her, he is still known to be an idiot when it comes to dealing with things like this. Oh, and yes, I'm a Steelers fan just in case you didn't know :P

[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

taj7575

Bingo. Even if he didn't assault her, he is still known to be an idiot when it comes to dealing with things like this. Oh, and yes, I'm a Steelers fan just in case you didn't know :P

One of my buddies is a diehard Steelers fan from West PA and he's pretty much been calling Big Ben the dumbest player on the team. He thinks Big Ben is awesome on the field but off it he thinks Big Ben is one conviction away from being Pacman Jones and Michael Vick. The fact that he continues to get named in sexual-related complaints makes him worse than Jones or Vick if he ever gets convicted on any of those.

Rofflesburger is pretty stupid. When you're fresh off of beating the rap on sexual assault charges, what should you do? Go bar hopping around college bars of course!:?

What a tool.

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[QUOTE="Buck_Hotep"]

I think even Steelers fans have to call Big ben the dumbest guy on the team, if not the NFL, with this latest allegations. This is the same person who just a couple years ago decided to get on his high-powered bike minus helmet. I mean he plays a sport where he gets penalized if he played without one yet he decides to do an activity that kills at the slightest mistake and do it without one.

Yeah, Big Ben has Epic Fail written on his forehead.

Buck_Hotep

Bingo. Even if he didn't assault her, he is still known to be an idiot when it comes to dealing with things like this. Oh, and yes, I'm a Steelers fan just in case you didn't know :P

One of my buddies is a diehard Steelers fan from West PA and he's pretty much been calling Big Ben the dumbest player on the team. He thinks Big Ben is awesome on the field but off it he thinks Big Ben is one conviction away from being Pacman Jones and Michael Vick. The fact that he continues to get named in sexual-related complaints makes him worse than Jones or Vick if he ever gets convicted on any of those.

Guilty or not, the Steelers need to assign this fool a babysitter.

There should be backlash for woman who make false accusations, what do they get now days if it turns out to be a big lie? Just saw a show on ID channel with a similar story....X360PS3AMD05

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Bingo. Even if he didn't assault her, he is still known to be an idiot when it comes to dealing with things like this. Oh, and yes, I'm a Steelers fan just in case you didn't know :P

Travis_Odell

One of my buddies is a diehard Steelers fan from West PA and he's pretty much been calling Big Ben the dumbest player on the team. He thinks Big Ben is awesome on the field but off it he thinks Big Ben is one conviction away from being Pacman Jones and Michael Vick. The fact that he continues to get named in sexual-related complaints makes him worse than Jones or Vick if he ever gets convicted on any of those.

He knows that. He never said the guy can't play. He just says the guy's a meathead who is jeopardizing his career and ruining the potential future success of the team who helped him win two rings. he knows the guy has talent coming out of his ears, but is also quite stupid when it comes to making smart decisions off the field.

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One of my buddies is a diehard Steelers fan from West PA and he's pretty much been calling Big Ben the dumbest player on the team. He thinks Big Ben is awesome on the field but off it he thinks Big Ben is one conviction away from being Pacman Jones and Michael Vick. The fact that he continues to get named in sexual-related complaints makes him worse than Jones or Vick if he ever gets convicted on any of those.

Buck_Hotep

He knows that. He never said the guy can't play. He just says the guy's a meathead who is jeopardizing his career and ruining the potential future success of the team who helped him win two rings. he knows the guy has talent coming out of his ears, but is also quite stupid when it comes to making smart decisions off the field.

Yeah, you perfectly explained how I feel about him. Even with the convictions aside, the guy is known to be a bit of a douche..During things like charity basketball games with the steelers, he would basically be the first one out as soon as it ends. He is also arrogant when he talks.

He really needs to change. I respect him on the field as a player, but I just can't respect him much off the field..

At this point he's only dumb to the extent that he put himself in this position. He shouldn't be in a bar, at least not that late.Even as a Steelers fan I can't look past that.He does live nearby in the off-season, so the whole "college town" thing isn't as big as people are making it to be. He hasn't been proven guilty, he hasn't even been charged, so there's still the chance she's making the whole thing up. If I were him I'd probably hang out at my house and play X-Box for the next few years.