Bench clearing incident... in Spring Training?

During today's Spring Training game between New York and Tampa Bay, there was a bit of ruckus that caused both benches to clear. It seems the Yankees' Shelley Duncan was a little rough while sliding into the Rays' Akinori Iwamuri at second base.

Jonny Gomes came in from right field to discuss his displeasure with Duncan's play.

Should stuff like this be saved for the regular season?

collisions at second and home are a part of baseball but IMO not in spring training. What Duncan did was wrong especially because the play was long over when his slid and it was obvious that he was trying to hurt him but what the rays did to the yankees catcher a few days back was also overly aggressive. He broke the guys wrist .

All lead from previous games where a Ray player trying to make the team, slid hard into the yankee catcher which caused an injury to the catcher.

Honestly dont blame the Ray player sliding hard into home as he's trying to impress and make the team. But also dont blame the yankee player from 'defending' his teammate by doing what he did.

All lead from previous games where a Ray player trying to make the team, slid hard into the yankee catcher which caused an injury to the catcher.

Honestly dont blame the Ray player sliding hard into home as he's trying to impress and make the team. But also dont blame the yankee player from 'defending' his teammate by doing what he did.

mrgab

He didn't slide. He railroaded the catcher.

But also dont blame the yankee player from 'defending' his teammate by doing what he did.mrgab

Don't blame the Yankee player for planting his cleated foot into another man's groin?

[QUOTE="mrgab"]But also dont blame the yankee player from 'defending' his teammate by doing what he did.Oleg_Huzwog

Don't blame the Yankee player for planting his cleated foot into another man's groin?

ya there are definently other ways to defend a teammate

i dont think st is an appropriate time for this kind of behavior... the regular season is one thing, but this is getting a little ridiculous. Steelers_86

and the funny thing is that it is just between these two teams both incidents that occurred were in games including these two

lol tampa bays always involved in these incidences against the yanks and sox, good for them

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]But also dont blame the yankee player from 'defending' his teammate by doing what he did.KFrandsen2

Don't blame the Yankee player for planting his cleated foot into another man's groin?

ya there are definently other ways to defend a teammate

Thats one of the ways its done in baseball. No big deal.

i realize that but i mean for spring training he could have just let it go and not retaliate, this stuff needs to wait until the regular season startsKFrandsen2

Both incidents could have but oh well. They're both young players trying to impress their managers and get some respect from the vets on the team...

[QUOTE="KFrandsen2"]i realize that but i mean for spring training he could have just let it go and not retaliate, this stuff needs to wait until the regular season startsmrgab

Both incidents could have but oh well. They're both young players trying to impress their managers and get some respect from the vets on the team...

ya i agree it wasn't like vets were doing this stuff. i mean they are playing hard to try to win a spot on the roster, cant hold anything against them for that

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[QUOTE="KFrandsen2"]i realize that but i mean for spring training he could have just let it go and not retaliate, this stuff needs to wait until the regular season startsKFrandsen2

Both incidents could have but oh well. They're both young players trying to impress their managers and get some respect from the vets on the team...

ya i agree it wasn't like vets were doing this stuff. i mean they are playing hard to try to win a spot on the roster, cant hold anything against them for that

Right now, the Yankees are looking bad here.feryl06

Retalliation from what? As far as I know, Girardi says there's no place for that in SPRING TRAINING GAMES--hes said it so why is he doing something opposite of what he believes? The Ray's player who crashed into the catcher made a LEGAL LEGIT play. Duncan's slide into second was pre-meditated and illegal. There's a difference. Don't give me retalliation--that's caveman mentallity. Yes, the yankees are looking bad---try listening to sports talk radio, esp. in the NY local area. Thanks for your contribution. :)

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[QUOTE="KFrandsen2"]i realize that but i mean for spring training he could have just let it go and not retaliate, this stuff needs to wait until the regular season startsSolid_Snake_7

Both incidents could have but oh well. They're both young players trying to impress their managers and get some respect from the vets on the team...

ya i agree it wasn't like vets were doing this stuff. i mean they are playing hard to try to win a spot on the roster, cant hold anything against them for that

Right now, the Yankees are looking bad here.feryl06

Retalliation from what? As far as I know, Girardi says there's no place for that in SPRING TRAINING GAMES--hes said it so why is he doing something opposite of what he believes? The Ray's player who crashed into the catcher made a LEGAL LEGIT play. Duncan's slide into second was pre-meditated and illegal. There's a difference. Don't give me retalliation--that's caveman mentallity. Yes, the yankees are looking bad---try listening to sports talk radio, esp. in the NY local area. Thanks for your contributionferyl06

Yes, there's no place for that in spring training like Girardi said, but guess what? The Rays started it by hurting one of our players, now i'm gonna do the same to one of yours. It's not against the rules to do that at home plate, i know, but it's absolutely unnecessary as the game doesn't mean anything. You can even call it unethical if you want.

No, you just showed how much of a Yankee lover you are. :) yea, let's face it, when you're wrong, you're wrong, but sometimes you can't change people's minds. It's too bad really.

Like said, LEGIT play at home plate, or ILLEGAL, PRE-MEDITATED slide at second base---which one do you think is worse. The fact that the catcher got hurt is no one's fault but the catcher for blocking the plate---if he didn't want to face the runner, then he could of simply tagged him by not standing in front of home plate. There's nothing the catcher will do in spring training that will make him the starting catcher--even if he hits .600 or better. Posada is starting. Now, the ray's player who slid into him, he's showing his manager something. The Ray player is trying to make the team and playing the game the way it's played. Duncan's slide was pure intent to hurt. There's a difference. Too bad you don't see that. Retalliation is what losers do, esp. when they do ILLEGAL plays. Thanks for your contribution. :)

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Retalliation from what? As far as I know, Girardi says there's no place for that in SPRING TRAINING GAMES--hes said it so why is he doing something opposite of what he believes? The Ray's player who crashed into the catcher made a LEGAL LEGIT play. Duncan's slide into second was pre-meditated and illegal. There's a difference. Don't give me retalliation--that's caveman mentallity. Yes, the yankees are looking bad---try listening to sports talk radio, esp. in the NY local area. Thanks for your contributionSolid_Snake_7

Yes, there's no place for that in spring training like Girardi said, but guess what? The Rays started it by hurting one of our players, now i'm gonna do the same to one of yours. It's not against the rules to do that at home plate, i know, but it's absolutely unnecessary as the game doesn't mean anything. You can even call it unethical if you want.

No, you just showed how much of a Yankee lover you are. :) yea, let's face it, when you're wrong, you're wrong, but sometimes you can't change people's minds. It's too bad really.

Like said, LEGIT play at home plate, or ILLEGAL, PRE-MEDITATED slide at second base---which one do you think is worse. The fact that the catcher got hurt is no one's fault but the catcher for blocking the plate---if he didn't want to face the runner, then he could of simply tagged him by not standing in front of home plate. There's nothing the catcher will do in spring training that will make him the starting catcher--even if he hits .600 or better. Posada is starting. Now, the ray's player who slid into him, he's showing his manager something. The Ray player is trying to make the team and playing the game the way it's played. Duncan's slide was pure intent to hurt. There's a difference. Too bad you don't see that. Retalliation is what losers do, esp. when they do ILLEGAL plays. Thanks for your contribution. :)feryl06

Duncan says he still doesn't know why the D-Rays are upset. The first picture says it all. It looks like he was trying to kick the SS in the groin. This is just another reason to hate the Yankees. First Girardi whines about his catcher getting trucked, then his player goes out and does this. It's going to be so nice to watch them nosedive this year.murlow12

you think they are actually going to be horrible this year because usually they go into a nosedive and then pull it out and make the playoffs

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No, you just showed how much of a Yankee lover you are. :) yea, let's face it, when you're wrong, you're wrong, but sometimes you can't change people's minds. It's too bad really.

Like said, LEGIT play at home plate, or ILLEGAL, PRE-MEDITATED slide at second base---which one do you think is worse. The fact that the catcher got hurt is no one's fault but the catcher for blocking the plate---if he didn't want to face the runner, then he could of simply tagged him by not standing in front of home plate. There's nothing the catcher will do in spring training that will make him the starting catcher--even if he hits .600 or better. Posada is starting. Now, the ray's player who slid into him, he's showing his manager something. The Ray player is trying to make the team and playing the game the way it's played. Duncan's slide was pure intent to hurt. There's a difference. Too bad you don't see that. Retalliation is what losers do, esp. when they do ILLEGAL plays. Thanks for your contribution. :)Solid_Snake_7

not a yankee lover---right. :) if you listen to ESPN or any other sports talk radio, you would see that everyone pretty much agrees that nonsense like the play Duncan made does not belong in baseball. There's retalliation, then there's thug retalliation. if you think what duncan did was right, then you're contradicting yourself. The hit the yankee catcher received was legit, and the hit the second baseman received was NOT. it's really that simple. I am for retalliation in a regular season game, but NOT the type that Duncan did. hope that makes more sense to you. :)feryl06

So says the yankee lover. :) Really, no one deserves that type of thug behavior coming to them, unless thug behavior was given first---which in this case it wasn't. Girardi looks bad in this situation. Duncan looks more like the fool as well in his defense of the slide. if this is how the yankees are going to play thee regular season, they're going to have a lot of hurt players on his hands.

[QUOTE="feryl06"]not a yankee lover---right. :) if you listen to ESPN or any other sports talk radio, you would see that everyone pretty much agrees that nonsense like the play Duncan made does not belong in baseball. There's retalliation, then there's thug retalliation. if you think what duncan did was right, then you're contradicting yourself. The hit the yankee catcher received was legit, and the hit the second baseman received was NOT. it's really that simple. I am for retalliation in a regular season game, but NOT the type that Duncan did. hope that makes more sense to you. :)Solid_Snake_7