Boston Celtics: The New Patriot sor the Next big Fluke

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#1 Julian7766
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Boston is turning out to be one of the best teams in the league. Will they be like the patriots(Of course not udnefeated but in the NBA everyone is defeated) Or wil lthey be a big fluke and lose in the Playoffs?Because if you look at it The Celtics the past few years have been horrible.If someone watched every game they played 2 years ago they'd never guess the celtics would make it to the Playoffs let alone get such a great season record so far.

So Everyone. My question is.

What do you think?

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#2 Julian7766
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srry for the bad spelling in topic name my space bar has some jam in it..
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#3 Jaysonguy
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This year's Celtics are nothing like previous years

They're completely different personnel

THey have three all starts on the team, how is winning a fluke?

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Picture them like the aptriots. best season record, Great team and Great Coaches. But what happens if they lose in the championships? the best team in the NBA for years but they lose the championships.

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#5 Jaysonguy
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Picture them like the aptriots. best season record, Great team and Great Coaches. But what happens if they lose in the championships? the best team in the NBA for years but they lose the championships.

Julian7766

But the Celtics aren't like that

They've been horrible for years and then Danny Ainge lucked out amazingly well and was able to get 2 all stars.

I think if they made the finals this year it would be amazing. I don't think anyone really is sure they can win a championship. It's all up to the bunch with how far they go. In the playoffs those are the guys that will have to step up.

The Celtics are the best story in the NBA this season but I think many fans have another team winning the championship.

Heck if they DO win the championship they'd be more like the Giants then the Pats lol

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#6 Julian7766
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eah i see where your going.

They are really udneratted(like the Giants) but they have the wins like the patriots.

So there like the Chargers/Cowboys

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they wont win the championship but if they dont get to the finals i would consider it a wasted season unless they lose to the pistons 4 the finals. ray allen is older and has ankle problems that will come back to hit him at some point. paul pierce and kg are getting old and the big ticket has what a abdominal strain. that is going to be buggin him for probably the rest of the season.

east-

pistons or celtics should go to finals

magic or cavs as the darkhorses

west

spurs, lakers, suns, mavs in that order to appear in the finals. so if spurs dont go its lakers and so on.

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But I think there playoff record will match the pats. Probably 4-0 sweps til lchampionships and if they end up in finals with Utah or somthing and LOSE. Well than there like the patriots
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I agree. They may be good now and maybe in 3 years but once those 3 start retiring the celtics dont have much talent or much of a salary cap left
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All 3 of their superstars are over 30. They've mortaged their future to bring them (Al Jefferson will be an epic superstar, and is a top big man now) and even if they get a championship now, they'll be garbage for years starting very soon.

Translation: No dynasty.

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Yeah they traded alot of good rookies and all just to be good in the present

In years to come the Raptors will probably be the next best

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They're really good, we'll see what happens. Of course since Boston already has 1 championship i don't want them to get another :)
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They'll get to the Finals because the East is so pathetic. They're an elite team, right up there with SA (and Dallas if they can get Kidd).
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^ Forgetting the Pistons and Hornets? ................
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ill give you guys the run down,

first al jefferson will not be an epic superstar, he'll be a great player but theres no way he'll be anything close to what garnett was to the timberwolves

yes they might be getting up there in age but they have at least 3 years of good play

their bench isnt as bad as everyone thinks or thought

i dont think they will get to the finals this year, if they do thats just a crazy bonus to what i thought they could do, realistically i see them getting to the finals next year

the east is weak yes, but it has improved like crazy, its no where near the west in terms of talent but it is a lot more interesting than it previously was, pistons, celtics, wizards ( when they get arenas back) magic(?) and toronto will all be in the hunt as obvious

if any of those teams were to win the east i think it would have to come down to the pistons and celtics, if the celtics were to pick up a pure back up point guard they could take the east with ease

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So wait, there's a difference between "New England Patriots" and "Next big Fluke"? Sound the same to me. Lol.
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#18 WhoShotMe
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So wait, there's a difference between "New England Patriots" and "Next big Fluke"? Sound the same to me. Lol.
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ill give you guys the run down,

first al jefferson will not be an epic superstar, he'll be a great player but theres no way he'll be anything close to what garnett was to the timberwolves

yes they might be getting up there in age but they have at least 3 years of good play

their bench isnt as bad as everyone thinks or thought

i dont think they will get to the finals this year, if they do thats just a crazy bonus to what i thought they could do, realistically i see them getting to the finals next year

the east is weak yes, but it has improved like crazy, its no where near the west in terms of talent but it is a lot more interesting than it previously was, pistons, celtics, wizards ( when they get arenas back) magic(?) and toronto will all be in the hunt as obvious

if any of those teams were to win the east i think it would have to come down to the pistons and celtics, if the celtics were to pick up a pure back up point guard they could take the east with ease

BeanTownBrown86

There are very few players in NFL history who are as great as Garnett. Jefferson may not be that, but he'll be a perennial all star who the franchise will build around. He's a legitimate big man superstar.

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So wait, there's a difference between "New England Patriots" and "Next big Fluke"? Sound the same to me. Lol.WhoShotMe

Yahhh. The Patriots are a Fluke. Right. 3 Rings and 4 SB appearences in 7 years is a fluke. Riiiiight.

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[QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

ill give you guys the run down,

first al jefferson will not be an epic superstar, he'll be a great player but theres no way he'll be anything close to what garnett was to the timberwolves

yes they might be getting up there in age but they have at least 3 years of good play

their bench isnt as bad as everyone thinks or thought

i dont think they will get to the finals this year, if they do thats just a crazy bonus to what i thought they could do, realistically i see them getting to the finals next year

the east is weak yes, but it has improved like crazy, its no where near the west in terms of talent but it is a lot more interesting than it previously was, pistons, celtics, wizards ( when they get arenas back) magic(?) and toronto will all be in the hunt as obvious

if any of those teams were to win the east i think it would have to come down to the pistons and celtics, if the celtics were to pick up a pure back up point guard they could take the east with ease

manningbowl135

There are very few players in NFL history who are as great as Garnett. Jefferson may not be that, but he'll be a perennial all star who the franchise will build around. He's a legitimate big man superstar.




NFL History huh? Garnett plays football now ;-)
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#22 Just_Osmo
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Boston is turning out to be one of the best teams in the league. Will they be like the patriots(Of course not udnefeated but in the NBA everyone is defeated) Or wil lthey be a big fluke and lose in the Playoffs?Because if you look at it The Celtics the past few years have been horrible.If someone watched every game they played 2 years ago they'd never guess the celtics would make it to the Playoffs let alone get such a great season record so far.

So Everyone. My question is.

What do you think?

Julian7766

Sports have cycles. Celtics used to be the most dominante team in the NBA (can be argues theyw ere the most dominante in all sports). 16 Championships says so. The Red Era was just unstopable. Then they sucked. Then they were good again with the original big 3. Now they are good again. Cycles.

PS: The Patriots comparision is just stupid because the celtics could MISS the play-offs and this season would be a HUGE imporovment over last season.

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[QUOTE="BeanTownBrown86"]

ill give you guys the run down,

first al jefferson will not be an epic superstar, he'll be a great player but theres no way he'll be anything close to what garnett was to the timberwolves

yes they might be getting up there in age but they have at least 3 years of good play

their bench isnt as bad as everyone thinks or thought

i dont think they will get to the finals this year, if they do thats just a crazy bonus to what i thought they could do, realistically i see them getting to the finals next year

the east is weak yes, but it has improved like crazy, its no where near the west in terms of talent but it is a lot more interesting than it previously was, pistons, celtics, wizards ( when they get arenas back) magic(?) and toronto will all be in the hunt as obvious

if any of those teams were to win the east i think it would have to come down to the pistons and celtics, if the celtics were to pick up a pure back up point guard they could take the east with ease

manningbowl135

There are very few players in NFL (NBA) history who are as great as Garnett. Jefferson may not be that, but he'll be a perennial all star who the franchise will build around. He's a legitimate big man superstar.

I agree, Jefferson is unstoppable on the block already at 23 and I love his attitude towards the game but average defense will keep him from being an MVP caliber big in the league. Still a multiple time allstar, but you have to give to get a superior talent like KG. You don't pass up on a once in a lifetime player like Garnett and a 3-4 year window as contenders, even as his skills decline after that window he's going to do what he does out there and be a leader.

These Celts are nothing like the Patriots. They are a likeable team, only one player has a ring, they win because of great defense, half the team is new this season and they were the laughing stock of the NBA last year. The only thing they have in common with them is they're undefeated (16-0) against the Western Conference, including a very nice win today against the Spurs (without KG, might I add).

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The Dallas Mavericks were pretty much in the same place last season as the Celtics are now. Believe they went 67-15, and everyone thought they would proceed to the Finals and win a championship. They had good players like Nowitzski, Howard, Terry, Stackhouse, etc. What happened? Eliminated by the 8th seeded Warriors. Just because you're good in the regular season doesn't mean anything in the playoffs. And playoffs are based on experience. Celtics have none in the playoffs.
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#25 viberooni
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The Dallas Mavericks were pretty much in the same place last season as the Celtics are now. Believe they went 67-15, and everyone thought they would proceed to the Finals and win a championship. They had good players like Nowitzski, Howard, Terry, Stackhouse, etc. What happened? Eliminated by the 8th seeded Warriors. Just because you're good in the regular season doesn't mean anything in the playoffs. And playoffs are based on experience. Celtics have none in the playoffs.Witchking111111

Unlike last years Mavs the Celtics have the best defense in the league, a proven crunch time performer in Pierce and a superstar with real heart in KG. Playoff games are won with great defense as much as they are experience.

With 3 stars that have led mediocre teams on multiple playoff runs and conference finals appearances plus heady vets like Posey, House and eventually Cassell (he's coming), I like their chances. Looking forward to seeing how they respond come playoff time.

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#26 WhoShotMe
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[QUOTE="WhoShotMe"]So wait, there's a difference between "New England Patriots" and "Next big Fluke"? Sound the same to me. Lol.Just_Osmo

Yeah, well when you can't earn them without cheating, those rings mean nothing. Sorry. Try again.

Yahhh. The Patriots are a Fluke. Right. 3 Rings and 4 SB appearences in 7 years is a fluke. Riiiiight.

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#27 atlflcns7_2004
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I think the celtics can win the east but winning it all will be tough. So I won't call them a fluke but I won't call them definite champions either.
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#28 Just_Osmo
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Your "Next Big Fluke" is now 16-0 vs the West beating the Spur's last night without KG. What a Fluke.