Can the Los Angeles Lakers repeat without Lamar Odom?

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#1 Master_Live
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Odom has a new offer in form of a "package" for 5 years worth 35 million dollars from the Miami Heat. Last year Odom made 14.1

Denying all that money to Ariza was the right move and the Lakers stood their ground, but are they being a little cheap in this negotiations?

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#2 flowersjf
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Odom has a new offer in form of a "package" for 5 years worth 35 million dollars from the Miami Heat. Last year Odom made 14.1

Denying all that money to Ariza was the right move and the Lakers stood their ground, but are they being a little cheap in this negotiations?

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That's a great question, and no I don't think the Lakers can repeat without Odom. Every time he plays well, they're basically unstoppable. He brought that "edge" in this year's NBA Finals. He did great in this years' NBA Finals and if he does leave I still expect him to eat loads of candy and average double digits in points and rebounds. IMO
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#3 sixringz1
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It will be tough. Artest is an upgrade over Ariza (IF and big IF, he's content being someone who might only get 10-12 shots a game), but there's no replacement for Odom. Luke Walton would be the likely person to get his minutes. He's a solid role player, but has nowhere near the skill set of Odom. I think if everyone plays the way they did in the playoffs they won't even get past Denver or SA, but if Bynume can play like he was before his injury, and NOT like he did in the playoffs, that may be able to counter Odom's loss. With that being said i haven't been following the contract offers that closely, but my understanding is that LA is offering a 3 year deal, while Dallas and Miami is offering 5 years. It would be hard to turn that down, We'll see

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#4 andyboiii
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apparently Buss offered Odom a 4 year deal worth 35 mil. Not sure why he would want to turn that down, I guess he really wanted that 5 year deal anyways I still think they can make it past everyone in the west even without Odom but I'm not sure how they would fair against a team like the Celtics if they're fully healthy. Ron Artest was an upgrade offensively and defensively and if Bynum plays like he did before he went down with his injury this year where he was averaging numbers like 20 and 10 then they can definitely win it all
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#5 Soulja_West
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The lakers did it without shaq so what makes the people that voted no that the lakers can't do it without him?
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#6 ariz3260
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Probably not if Bynum and Gasol dont' step up their game big time. Still, at this stage it is difficult to imagine life without Odom for LA since he has been such a big part of the Lakers as we know them now. My question for now is if they do end up letting Odom go, who are they going to bring in to replace him? Not to say Walton couldn't develop further and come into his own but Odom's departure would signify such a hugh change for LA, I am personally not too sure Walton is ready for it yet.

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I don't even wanna think about LA without Lamar. He's that important. The Lakers could still win it all if Bynum plays like he did pre knee injury numero dos. If he plays well like that the Lakers can still certainly win it all. Also, Artest would have to be a good fit, as well.
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#8 feryl06
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Lamar Odom is fool's gold. He's too inconsistent. Yes, the Lakers can repeat without him. You still have Kobe/Gasol/Artest---it's a good start. :)

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#9 flowersjf
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The lakers did it without shaq so what makes the people that voted no that the lakers can't do it without him?Soulja_West
True, and when Shaq first left they were struggling a lot. They relied on Kobe to score 40+ a game and they would barely get into the playoffs. One of the big reasons why they went to the Finals the past two years was because of Gasol among other things. But Odom is a very skilled and underrated player and the Lakers will lose a lot if they can't re-sign him.
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I look at it as they traded Trevor Ariza and Lamar Odom for Ron Artest. Now is Artest as good as those two players combined. No, so do they repeat? maybe, but it will be harder, especially with an improved Orlando, Cleveland, Boston, and San Antonio
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#11 Master_Live
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I look at it as they traded Trevor Ariza and Lamar Odom for Ron Artest. Now is Artest as good as those two players combined. No, so do they repeat? maybe, but it will be harder, especially with an improved Orlando, Cleveland, Boston, and San Antonio WadeFan
I wouldn't call Orlando improved.
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#12 chansaet
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Odom played a much bigger role than Ariza ever did for the Lakers. Artest is good but he does not equal Ariza and Odom combined. Lakers could always try to get Josh Smith and that would be a good move. Artest and Smith IMO would be sort of equal to Ariza and Odom not quite due to Odoms versitilies.
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It'll be hard for the Lakers if they can't keep Odom. There's going to be a big void on their bench. They'll have to try to strike gold in the free agency pool to fill his void, or somehow have the younger players step up.
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#14 yagr_zero
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It'll be hard for the Lakers if they can't keep Odom. There's going to be a big void on their bench. They'll have to try to strike gold in the free agency pool to fill his void, or somehow have the younger players step up.
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#15 flowersjf
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It'll be hard for the Lakers if they can't keep Odom. There's going to be a big void on their bench. They'll have to try to strike gold in the free agency pool to fill his void, or somehow have the younger players step up.Yagr_Zero
Sasha will have to step up if they don't get Odom back but I'll think he'll do good next season.
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#16 chAzN93
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no way... artest is an upgrade from ariza but without odom they wont go anywhere
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#17 andyboiii
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[QUOTE="chAzN93"]no way... artest is an upgrade from ariza but without odom they wont go anywhere

Artest is a better offensive and defensive player then Ariza and Odom. The Lakers will be fine
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#18 Rush2k
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It would be wise to keep Lamar, but the Lakers will win the West anyway...not a big deal, but Odom would be nice in the Finals. No matter if they face the Celtics, Magic or Cavaliers - having a skilled 6-11 guy like Odom improves your chances big-time.
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#19 Lostboy1224
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I am guessing that the Lakers think Artest and a healthy Bynum would compensate for losing Odom so maybe they can play as well or better if the rest of the team is at 100%. It would be stupid to let him go though cause there are not that many players similar in size and talent.
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#20 mont13
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I'm not to worried about losing Odom, hopefully Powell and Walton can step it up with added minutes, add Artest and I think L.A. will be ok. They need to get Bynum going though.

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#21 MURDA_B
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no..but artest is a better defender..it could work out though