Congratultions Red Sox, I cant believe we let this guy walk.

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#1 bytgames
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Redsox fans i just want to tell you how good a pitcher you guys got and congratulate you on the pick up, this isnt the first time john smoltz has had surgery evry time he has, he has bounced back the following year.

He is aging and getting old but, in the last 4 years he hasnt had an era over 3.50 he also is a great closer, if you choose to put him in the pin, he had 150 saves as a brave and was very good.

He is also the best post-season pitcher in the history of MLB he has never lost a game 7 and has the lowest ERA for ppl who has started as many games as him in the post season or more. and we know the braves were in the post season for 15 strait years.

So congrats on the pick up, i refuse to watch the braves this season for letting this guy go, and i'll be rooting for the sox.

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Redsox fans i just want to tell you how good a pitcher you guys got and congratulate you on the pick up, this isnt the first time john smoltz has had surgery evry time he has, he has bounced back the following year.

He is aging and getting old but, in the last 4 years he hasnt had an era over 3.50 he also is a great closer, if you choose to put him in the pin, he had 150 saves as a brave and was very good.

He is also the best post-season pitcher in the history of MLB he has never lost a game 7 and has the lowest ERA for ppl who has started as many games as him in the post season or more. and we know the braves were in the post season for 15 strait years.

So congrats on the pick up, i refuse to watch the braves this season for letting this guy go, and i'll be rooting for the sox.

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Welcome to the nation then. I just wish I was as confident about how this move improves the sox.
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#3 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(
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#4 Cloud_Insurance
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wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(XD4NTESINF3RNOX
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.
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#5 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(Cloud_Insurance
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

Ah, but would we have two world championships without him? Hmm?

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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(Cloud_Insurance
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

that half assed pos single handedly got the Red Sox the 07 ws
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(Cloud_Insurance
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

He is not even in the same area of disgrace as Bonds, that has to be one of the most rediculous things I have ever heard. Yes he was a baby and he wasn't not that great of a team mate towards the end of his red sox career, but he still busted his ass on a daily basis to be in baseball shape and still showed up and hit. Now you could argue the last two years here in Boston he wanted out so badly that he faked injuries and ended getting into fights with his teammates, but no way shape or form was he a disgrace to basball.
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(NetYankEagle
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

that half assed pos single handedly got the Red Sox the 07 ws

Dear Lord we agree

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I believe this thread is about Smoltz, not Manny. ;)
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(xscrapzx
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

He is not even in the same area of disgrace as Bonds, that has to be one of the most rediculous things I have ever heard. Yes he was a baby and he wasn't not that great of a team mate towards the end of his red sox career, but he still busted his ass on a daily basis to be in baseball shape and still showed up and hit. Now you could argue the last two years here in Boston he wanted out so badly that he faked injuries and ended getting into fights with his teammates, but no way shape or form was he a disgrace to basball.

He tried to manipulate his team and the league into getting a brand new contract. Thats garbage. Hilarious how its blown up in his face.

Busted his ass to be in baseball shape? What is baseball shape? You don't have to be in shape to be successful at baseball. Manny Ramirez is not in shape, hell, CC Sabbathia isn't in shape. That doesn't prevent them from being successful at what they do (hitting and pitching respectively).

Outside of cheating and off the field issues, he represents everything that is wrong with professional sports.

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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(NetYankEagle
Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

that half assed pos single handedly got the Red Sox the 07 ws

single handedly? Josh Beckett and the world series MVP Mike Lowell would like to say hello

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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"] Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap. sixringz1

that half assed pos single handedly got the Red Sox the 07 ws

single handedly? Josh Beckett and the world series MVP Mike Lowell would like to say hello

Agreed. I hate it when my fellow Sox fans pretend that Manny didn't play huge roles in both WS wins, but he wasn't the only reason we won. As for Smoltz, I'm not worried about the surgery or his age. Even if he doesn't bounce back, the price we're paying for him is so low, it's not a huge deal if he doesn't pan out (other than the fact that is one of our few signings to try and improve the team I guess) If it does, high reward-low risk. He's definitely a first ballot of Hall of Famer though, no question. Let's hope it all goes good.
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wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(XD4NTESINF3RNOX
He didn't leave, you kicked him out :lol: And i agree with the guy badmouthing him, even as a Dodger fan ;)
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"] Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap. sixringz1

that half assed pos single handedly got the Red Sox the 07 ws

single handedly? Josh Beckett and the world series MVP Mike Lowell would like to say hello

congrats to lowell Manny's 348 batting avg 4hr and 16 rbis in the postseason say hello dude had 10 rbi alone in the ALCS. I cant believe im defending this man.
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(X360PS3AMD05
He didn't leave, you kicked him out :lol: And i agree with the guy badmouthing him, even as a Dodger fan ;)

We did not kick him out. He forced the sox to trade him,at the end theo got together with a group of players(who remain unamed) to find out how they felt and they wanted him gone.Plus Ortiz came out in an interview with the boston herald and said from a personal standpoint manny was a friend and he was going to miss him a lot and was sad it happened like that,but from a team standpoint he felt it was time for manny to go because it was starting to hurt the team.

So,no manny was not kicked out of boston,he made enough fuss till they had to trade him,and burnt some bridges while he did it.

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Erm, yah he was thrown out, the Sox were still paying as he took my Dodgers to the NLCS.
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its a good pickup mainly when pitchers get tired towards second half, he will be available.
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He's gonna do great for the Sox!
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]wish manny didn't leave but oh well :*(Dutch_Mix

Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap.

Ah, but would we have two world championships without him? Hmm?

Thank you, love how Sox fans like to forget how they Sox organization harbored Manny and his antics for many years.
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#20 fbigent34
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Its already been said he is going to be a starter anyways glad this guy can help big time.
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"] Why would you want that piece of **** on your team? He is as big a disgrace to the game of baseball as Bonds. I don't care how good a hitter he is, his defense is awful, he plays the game for the wrong reasons, does everything half-assed, and attempted to manipulate the game to his advantage. A true piece of dogcrap. Master_Live

Ah, but would we have two world championships without him? Hmm?

Thank you, love how Sox fans like to forget how they Sox organization harbored Manny and his antics for many years.

red sox have won ws before without many josh beckett and ortiz. so you know what we didn't have any hitting in 08 thats why we lost.
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

Ah, but would we have two world championships without him? Hmm?

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Thank you, love how Sox fans like to forget how they Sox organization harbored Manny and his antics for many years.

red sox have won ws before without many josh beckett and ortiz..

ummm yea in 1918:|
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="Master_Live"] Thank you, love how Sox fans like to forget how they Sox organization harbored Manny and his antics for many years.NetYankEagle
red sox have won ws before without many josh beckett and ortiz..

ummm yea in 1918:|

so what what does it matter? whole diffrent manger team etc... Manny is not a one man person. you have to have deep bullpen great staters and one of the best closers.
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#24 X360PS3AMD05
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Manny is not a one man person?......................
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#25 BankMyMan
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John smoltz is a good pickup but was overpaid. In reality he will only be pitching half the year because he has to rehab his injury. This is why it's a good pickup for the sox... they don't need him until July/August and they have the pitching depth to let him fully rehab. he's gonna be a beast when he comes back. Manny's a whole other story.
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doesn't matter the red sox are garbage. GO YANKEES!
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#27 theproblem23
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Smoltz isnt a bad #5 starter to have in the rotation. Hopefully he can stay healthy and Boston will be even more dangerous