finals game 3 no foul?
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im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-downIf they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that. lebron is a crybaby every game he's like was fouled. dude he would last 5 sec on a football field maybe thats why he choose Basketball.
[QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringerIf they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
spurs have been getting lucky breaks all throughout the playoffs. regardless though, they were gonna win it all for sure after the suns were eliminated...so wahteversilky_smooth8? what are you talking about!
If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-down
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
p.s why do you think ginobli who was fouled on the other half of the court only shot 2 shots for free throws even though he was behind the 3 point line it was a team foul and he shoots 3 unless he is shooting a shot. lebron was not. he got fouled said oh no i need to shoot it and shot it. He knows he would have only shot 2 but he was arguing cause he's a crybaby and always wnats to blame other for his loses.
[QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringer
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-down
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
of course Bowen fouled him obviously it was intentional, he was trying to get Lebron to go to the line and even if the refs did call that Lebron would have only shot 2 freethrows because he wasn't in the act of shooting at that time, like I said it was a smart play by Bowen
[QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringer
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
p.s why do you think ginobli who was fouled on the other half of the court only shot 2 shots for free throws even though he was behind the 3 point line it was a team foul and he shoots 3 unless he is shooting a shot. lebron was not. he got fouled said oh no i need to shoot it and shot it. He knows he would have only shot 2 but he was arguing cause he's a crybaby and always wnats to blame other for his loses.
I agree because what people fail to relize is that it was 5 secs on the clock yet he rondomly shot to make it seem that way when bruce fouled him.
[QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's andyboiii
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
of course Bowen fouled him obviously it was intentional, he was trying to get Lebron to go to the line and even if the refs did call that Lebron would have only shot 2 freethrows because he wasn't in the act of shooting at that time, like I said it was a smart play by Bowen
he was in the act watch the damn replay
[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-down
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
I dont really believe that he was in the act of shooting cause he went up for the shot after Bowen hit him in the back but I know if the referees were gonna call a foul it would have been in the act of shooting so tough luck. Even if he would have been fouled I doubt he would have made all the FTs and EVEN if he would have made the FTs the Spurs could still win in OT. LeBron was just trying to delay the inevitable.mohit2003Agree i think he forced the shot cause he felt he got fouled instead of trying to really make the goal. He's looking more and more like a retard ever game/ he's trying to force a foul and win by a foul shot instead of looking at the goal following thru and making the goal instead of counting on technicallitys
mj like lebron and like kobe wont win any championships with out another superstar or true roll players.
mj had scottie, rodman, kerr, longley, kukoc to name some roll players.
kobe had shaq and without shaq look where kobe is no championships. while shaq with dwade won a championship
lebron nothing and wont ever win without true roll players. big z isnt great, anderson varjeyo (sp) could be a roll player but isnt. and larry hughes well he cant even stay on the court but could be a roll players. that gibson or whatver looks like he could help lebron. but yah this series is over. lebron might have 1 miracle left to win atleast one game. but spurs arent bad enough to blow this series.
[QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringer
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's playstation_wii
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting. OMG no he wasn't. he was trying to get away from Bowden, bowden touched him for the foul and lebron forced the shot. theshot came after lebron set his feet parralel to the goal to shoot a forced shot. If they would have called it1 he would shoot 2
he would try to make 1 and miss the other in hopes a rebound and quick offensive rebound. You guys need to chill because you tellimg me they lost cause bowden touched his back and thats why he couldn't make the shot? bowden didn't touch him when he was shooting only when he was going to find a spot to shoot. By rule he would have shot 2 thats why they didn't call it they gave lebron a chance to win the game.
P.S the Cavs wen 2 for 18 from 3 pt and i have to say i never saw so many missed open shots in my life. they lost cause they suck no because of a love tap. if i was lebron or if jordan was lebron he wouldn't have got tapped and force a 3pt in hopes the refs call it. jordan would get a clear open shot set up follow thru and win the game. lebron is now King Crybaby
Edit- oops they went 3 for 18 Some sharpsooters there right buddy?
[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's playstation_wii
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting.no buddy peacebringer is right, he would have got 2 freethrows btw even if Lebron was given the chance to shoot the 3 without a foul would he have even made it? the guy didn't make a 3 all game he was brick city actually the whole cavs team were that game, they shot something like 3-17 pssh this was the Spurs on a off night and the cavs still didn't beat them, just admit the Cavs are done buddy actually they were done before they even stepped on the court with the Spurs
To everyone who continues to whine about the refs:
Well regarless of that last play, the Cavs wouldn't even be in that situation at the end of the game if they didn't shoot so horrible from 3-Point land. Weren't they like 2-16 or something like that? Thats just awful. Even two of their best 3-point shooters Damon Jones and Gibson were missing wide-open 3's. And some of those lay-ups that Lebron tried when he attacked the basket towards the end of the game that he usually converts went "in and out" a few times. The Cavs just aren't destined to win I guess. No team in the history of the NBA has won a championship when down 0-3 in the series. So obviously the Cavs would need to pull off a miracle now to win this series which is extremely unlikely.
First off, as this is a thread about whether or not there was a foul - yes, there was. Bowen tried to send James to the line for 2 with an intentional, and that's why James threw up the shot, while there was still contact. If you want to see a good point of view, and the commentary from the crew after the game, look here: ESPN.com and click on the link, "Was LeBron fouled?" It shows a behind the back angle, that shows contact well into the shot. It's no excuse for the loss, but if that would've been Wade, he would've gotten the call. Especially on his home court.QuasidodoJr
From the refs perspective it didn't look like he fouled him there no Instant replay in NBA . Also lebron said it didn't effect his shot. the point of a foul is because your cheating and disrupting the Offense. Lebron said it wasn't a foul but he wanted the call.
LeBron said it wasn't a foul because he took the high ground, and didn't want to appear as whiny. He wouldn't have argued as boldly as he did after the play if he truly didn't think he was fouled.
Edit: And to people pulling for the Spurs that keep dragging up, "They had multiple chances to win, blah, blah, blah!" From the game I was watching, the Spurs had plenty of chances to lose, also. They went 4 minutes without a point in the 4th quarter.
LeBron said it wasn't a foul because he took the high ground, and didn't want to appear as whiny. He wouldn't have argued as boldly as he did after the play if he truly didn't think he was fouled.QuasidodoJrYou just don't know how sports.
Rule: you always complain you never know when they will overturn. But it doesn't even matter the ref from his point of view did not feel it was a Significant foul, he doesn't have Slo Mo or Instant Replay in his head. look at the replay and tell me how the ref can see that foul when he was looking at bowdens back.
Ok, it's fine that you want to feel that way. I guess the ESPN staff must all be entirely retarded then.Chris Sheridan already wrote up an article contrary to the fact. The crew doing coverage after the game said it was a foul that should've led to three free-throws. I'm past this point, I've accepted that it happened.
Oh, and by the way, there are three officials on the court. Not just one. Sure the closest ref was responsible for the call, but I've seen the play from multiple angles, and no matter where he was standing, he was aware of the play. They don't like to give these calls because they don't like games to be dictated by free throw shots. Especially after Game 6 last year.
Regardless, there's no point denying that it happened, or implying that it was inconsequential just because it goes against the outcome you wanted to see. Sure, I'd personally like to see the Cavs pull an upset and win, but I don't think this will be their last trip to the Finals, so I'm just going to hope that the Cavs can at least win the next two so the Spurs celebration doesn't happen at the Q.
When you move into a shot during or immediately after the foul, most times the refs call it as a shooting foul because they do allow for some continuation after initial contact. LeBron had to shoot as soon as he felt contact because no shot would have meant 2 free throws only. At least no one can say the refs have been giving LeBron any favors these playoffs.
Still the Cavs still had their chances though and it should never have come down to a last ditch three point shot, they played well enough to win but couldn't grind it out in the end.
The Cavs should have never let the game come down to a fould in the first place. The game was morelost when Varejo didn't pass back to LeBron andtook that ridiculous scoop shot from 6 feet away from the basket. But, even then, the Spurs seemed to show how unready the Cavs are for the finals by not scoring a single point in four minutes. If that happened against a more loaded team like the Pistons, Bullsor a healthy Wizards club they would have lost that game. The Cavs looked like they were shooting into a thimble. Even some layups just went in and out for LeBron.And ofcourse there's the7 foot space taker who calls himself a center.It's hard tolook atand I don't think I'm even gonna watch game 4.
ESPN are full of idiots, there a bunch of guys who never actually played and the ones who did sucked. Bill Walton who is the best Player to be a Journalist also said he would have shot 2 heres why
lebron got fouled yes but he was not taking a shot so lebron quickly Shot the ball trying to "Draw" the foul. thats were Lebron messed up. Look at the shot you do not shoot a 3 moving sideways like that. Lebron forced the shot trying to draw the foul, if Bowden didn't touch him lebron would have moved more to the left set his feet and shoot a shot. but Lebron was trying to draw the foul so he quickly shot the ball in hopes the refs would say it was Continued. Thats where Lebron messed up.
Peacebringer you are correct that the foul was not in the act of shooting but LeBron wasn't trying to draw anything - he WAS fouled on purpose and because of that, was forced to take a shot he wouldn't have otherwise in hopes that it would be a continuation call.
It was a smart move after feeling the contact, a ref could easily call that a shooting foul (especially at home in a crucial situation) and there really was no other option at that point. If you wait to hear the whistle there's no way it would ever be considred a shooting foul. Only no whistle was blown for anything, so that's all she wrote. I don't think he messed up considering he wasn't expecting the ref to let the foul go uncalled.
it wasn't a smart move because they didn't call the foul you can't always depend on calls, you play to win the game lebron needed to forget that love tap and set his feet and jump foward not sideways and they prob could have tied and went to OT and win the game. Lebron sucks from FT and maybe he would have missed 1 of the 3 so he shouldn't have took that chance in the finals. i see the cavs getting destroyed next year and i don't even think Lebron is gonna stay with the Cavs much longer after his performance this finals maybe 2 more years they will part ways with him.Peacebringer you are correct that the foul was not in the act of shooting but LeBron wasn't trying to draw anything - he WAS fouled on purpose and because of that, was forced to take a shot he wouldn't have otherwise in hopes that it would be a continuation call.
It was a smart move after feeling the contact, a ref could easily call that a shooting foul (especially at home in a crucial situation) and there really was no other option at that point. If you wait to hear the whistle there's no way it would ever be considred a shooting foul. Only no whistle was blown for anything, so that's all she wrote. I don't think he messed up considering he wasn't expecting the ref to let the foul go uncalled.
viberooni
Imagine both teams are over there fouls and they pass it inbounds a guy intentionaly fouls the guy and quickly he trys to throw the ball for a 3 from half court should he get the call?
[QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringerIf they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that. lebron is a crybaby every game he's like was fouled. dude he would last 5 sec on a football field maybe thats why he choose Basketball.
You make no sense dude. If you would have watched ESPN you would have heard ALL the analysts agree that he was fouled in the act of shooting (continuation foul) and would have shot 3 free throws. I also don't understand when you say LeBron is a crybaby when he said after the game it wasn't a foul and didn't mess up his shot and yet EVERYBODY (including the Spurs) said he was fouled and Bowen was supposed to foul him like he did. The ref just missed the call plain and simple. Obviously the outcome won't change and I don't care about that. I just find it dumb when people spout off about something they obviously don't know much about. Maybe watch ESPNor read up on the game so you don't say stuff that is completely incorrect. Just a thought.
Peacebringer you are correct that the foul was not in the act of shooting
viberooni
That actually isn't the case. Everyone I have seen either on TV or on the web (sports sites) has agreed that if a foul was called, LeBron would have gotten three free throws because it would be considered a continuation foul. Obviously the game is over but I'm just saying that if a foul would have been called (doesn't matter now but this is just to back up what I'm saying) LeBron would have received 3 FT's.
If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-down
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
Exactly. Behind the three means three shots. That was definitely a foul and should have been called - the ref was right there!
[QUOTE="viberooni"]Peacebringer you are correct that the foul was not in the act of shooting
nickdastick
That actually isn't the case. Everyone I have seen either on TV or on the web (sports sites) has agreed that if a foul was called, LeBron would have gotten three free throws because it would be considered a continuation foul. Obviously the game is over but I'm just saying that if a foul would have been called (doesn't matter now but this is just to back up what I'm saying) LeBron would have received 3 FT's.
Boy I hope "everyone" doesnt say jumping of a bridge is cool cause I am afraid you would actually do it. It doesnt matter what everyone says we are entitled to our own opinion. I dont think he was fouled in the act of shooting but I know he would have gotten the call if the refs had blown the whistle. But they didnt.
[QUOTE="playstation_wii"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's andyboiii
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting.no buddy peacebringer is right, he would have got 2 freethrows btw even if Lebron was given the chance to shoot the 3 without a foul would he have even made it? the guy didn't make a 3 all game he was brick city actually the whole cavs team were that game, they shot something like 3-17 pssh this was the Spurs on a off night and the cavs still didn't beat them, just admit the Cavs are done buddy actually they were done before they even stepped on the court with the Spurs
If the foul was called when he was in the ACT of shooting the 3, he would have gotten 3 free throws so it wouldn't matter if the shot went in or not. I do not even like theCavs but I'm still trying to set the record straight.[QUOTE="playstation_wii"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's peacebringer
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting. OMG no he wasn't. he was trying to get away from Bowden, bowden touched him for the foul and lebron forced the shot. theshot came after lebron set his feet parralel to the goal to shoot a forced shot. If they would have called it1 he would shoot 2
he would try to make 1 and miss the other in hopes a rebound and quick offensive rebound. You guys need to chill because you tellimg me they lost cause bowden touched his back and thats why he couldn't make the shot? bowden didn't touch him when he was shooting only when he was going to find a spot to shoot. By rule he would have shot 2 thats why they didn't call it they gave lebron a chance to win the game.
P.S the Cavs wen 2 for 18 from 3 pt and i have to say i never saw so many missed open shots in my life. they lost cause they suck no because of a love tap. if i was lebron or if jordan was lebron he wouldn't have got tapped and force a 3pt in hopes the refs call it. jordan would get a clear open shot set up follow thru and win the game. lebron is now King Crybaby
Edit- oops they went 3 for 18 Some sharpsooters there right buddy?
Would you just quit posting. You obviously know noting about this game. You probably can't even play it. He would get to shoot 3 free throws, not 2. Anyway, the man's name is Bowen, not Bowden.B-O-W-E-N!
LOL all right i think we are taking this whole quoting other people's replys thing too far now. Too much scrolling. lol I wonder how he knows the stats for 3pt shots but not Bruce Bowen's name! Its not as bad as the one guy I met who spelled Kobe as Coby though!!! lol
[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]If they called it he would be able to shoot 2 shots instead of maybe make the 3. so if they called a foul he would shoot 2 shots because the fouls was before he was taking the shot. referees not gonna mess up the game like that.[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="low-down"]im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's playstation_wii
he was behind the 3 point line the whole time so it would of been three shots and they even showed the play in slow motion. everyone agreed Lebron had a legit argument.
No he was fouled then he knew he got fouled and shot the 3. but you don't know the rules of basketball so i'll tell youif a team is over it's fouls(like spurs) any foul will give the other team 2 shots if they are not shooting the ball(so even if your behind the 3 point line you will shoot 2 cause you were not shooting a shot)lebron was fould .5 sec before he even set up to shoot a shot. they would have gave him only 2 free throws for that since when he was fouled he was not shooting. NBA officials are not gonna call that because it would have given the game to the spurs. what Lebron needed to do was make the 3 point. to bad he's been to BZ his how life practicing Dunking to even make a 3 point
bro...he was behind the three line.....was fouled and as he was fouled, shot the 3...not after the foul was made as i stated in my first post. he was in MOTION ok so it would of been 3 shot not 2 and i know the damn rules so dont be a smart ass alright
Your listening to what the announcer said he was in the motion of moving away from bowen not shooting the shot. the announcer is dumb Lebron would only have shot 2. ginobli was behind the 3 and shot 2 because he was not in the act of shooting. thats would be real nice if they can foul lebron he can take 3 steps sideways and shoot a 3 and they give him 3 free throws. you do not know the rules sorry. Lebrons feet were not parralel and he was not ready to shoot when he got fouled. so he would shoot 2.What happened is lebron got fouled then 1 to .5 sec later he took the shot then he was complaining trying to make something out of nothing.
Peacebringer, YOU'RE WRONG so just stop arguing. Low-down was right the whole time. The game announcers even said that Lebron was in the act of shooting.He should have got 3 free throws because he started to pick up the ball to shoot when he was fouled so he was in the act of shooting.
let me get this straight so the refs get blamed when they do make a foul call to decide the game now this person is cryign because lebron should have gotten fouled so the refs could decide the game, anyways Lebron always chokes on th efree throw line an dwould have missed at least one of the shots and th efoul was before LeBron was in the act of shooting if you guys watch the same ESPN news i watch then you fould know that Bowen fouled Bron befor he took the shot before he even lifted his feet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRI9a0R__Cc
If you still he should have got 3 FT watch more basketball
im not a big fan of either team here but Lebron james was fouled by bowen those last seconds and the ref didnt call anything. bowen intensionally grabbed him and like they mentioned on tv Lebron was in the motion and picked up the ball to shoot the 3. so that was terrible that no call was made and a bad lose by the cav's low-down
He probably would've missed a free throw anyway. I'm a LeBron fan but I think he deserves to lose only because maybe he'll learn that he needs to be more aggressive and not trust his teammates so much. When your teammates cant make the easiest shots in the world, its time to stop passing to them. (See Anderson Varjeao; missed layup that hit was nowhere near the rim: Donyell Marshall; looking like he was on the court by himself and Larry Hughes; Missing a 4 foot jumper)
let me get this straight so the refs get blamed when they do make a foul call to decide the game now this person is cryign because lebron should have gotten fouled so the refs could decide the game, anyways Lebron always chokes on th efree throw line an dwould have missed at least one of the shots and th efoul was before LeBron was in the act of shooting if you guys watch the same ESPN news i watch then you fould know that Bowen fouled Bron befor he took the shot before he even lifted his feet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRI9a0R__Cc
If you still he should have got 3 FT watch more basketball
NetYankEagle
He was in the motion of going for a jumpshot, therefore it is considered in the motion of shooting. I'm guessing your fairly new to basketball...or you just have limited knowledge.
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