I'm sick of A-Rod's cheap tactics...

This is competitive sports. Distraction is normal in every sports. If the guy can't catch the ball just because of a simple shout then he just sux. Don't blame it on other. I don not like A-Rod, but a simple shout to distract other player is normal in every sports unless it's golf or other sissy sports. chatri10

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

Wow, does baseball really want to dwell on this incident for too long? if so it would confirm this in the minds of millions of people, that baseball players are the dumbests jocks on the field, and the most childish of the bunch. Seriously what kind of idiot complains about the opponent using mind tactics on him when you are at the echelon of competition? Are you telling me that nfl players should moan everytime an oppossing player talk smack about them? are you tellingme that basketball players should go yelling to their mom that kobe told him a lie even though he doesn't play for his team? Wow baseball as a whole comes off looking like a pampered league if it dwells upon this too long. numismatic

in basketball its called a technical foul. what if that happened to you i bet you would complain. if you wouldnt some of ur team members would, just like with the jays. 

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

coltss

Yelling is a distraction but not cheating. Cheating in baseball is steroids, a corked bat, pine tar on your hand while pitch ect.

When you go to catch a foul ball fans are yelling and screaming and you still have to make the play.

During the last series against the red sox A-Rod appeared to elbow Pedroia while trying to break up a double play. None of the sox wanted to make a big deal out of it, besides Pedroia, but its another example of A-Rod using cheap tactics. Theres nothing wrong with a hard slide but when you use your arms to push a fielder out of the way its crossing the line.bed412

[QUOTE="chatri10"]This is competitive sports. Distraction is normal in every sports. If the guy can't catch the ball just because of a simple shout then he just sux. Don't blame it on other. I don not like A-Rod, but a simple shout to distract other player is normal in every sports unless it's golf or other sissy sports. coltss

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

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[QUOTE="chatri10"]This is competitive sports. Distraction is normal in every sports. If the guy can't catch the ball just because of a simple shout then he just sux. Don't blame it on other. I don not like A-Rod, but a simple shout to distract other player is normal in every sports unless it's golf or other sissy sports. NetYankEagle

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

allright i understand the crowd but a opposing player never tries to distract smeone whos trying to make a play its bad sportsmanship and its against the rules. And in basketball they dont talk to the shooter when he is shooting a ball its only before he shoots it. Howie Clarke was trying to make a play and A-rod yelled myne. A-rod could play mind games with him all he wants but not when he is making a play. the players clearly know they are not suppose to distract a player trying to make a play on the ball and you saw the rule above. Carbera or any other ball player wouldnt do anything like  that in the first place. A-rod was frustrated because the Yanks have lost a ton of games, i understand that but dont try to win cheaply.

[QUOTE="bed412"]During the last series against the red sox A-Rod appeared to elbow Pedroia while trying to break up a double play. None of the sox wanted to make a big deal out of it, besides Pedroia, but its another example of A-Rod using cheap tactics. Theres nothing wrong with a hard slide but when you use your arms to push a fielder out of the way its crossing the line.NetYankEagle

sliding into second base is part of the game, and yelling into some1s ear trying to make a play is not. If A-rod doesnt want that much attention maybe he should play the game right.

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allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

nygiants1080

Yelling is a distraction but not cheating. Cheating in baseball is steroids, a corked bat, pine tar on your hand while pitch ect.

When you go to catch a foul ball fans are yelling and screaming and you still have to make the play.

ok the rules state its illegal so its still not cheating?

INTERFERENCE
(a) Offensive interference is an act by the team at bat which interferes with, obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play. If the umpire declares the batter, batter- runner, or a runner out for interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise provided by these rulesmarchmadness1012

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[QUOTE="chatri10"]This is competitive sports. Distraction is normal in every sports. If the guy can't catch the ball just because of a simple shout then he just sux. Don't blame it on other. I don not like A-Rod, but a simple shout to distract other player is normal in every sports unless it's golf or other sissy sports. coltss

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

allright i understand the crowd but a opposing player never tries to distract smeone whos trying to make a play its bad sportsmanship and its against the rules. And in basketball they dont talk to the shooter when he is shooting a ball its only before he shoots it. Howie Clarke was trying to make a play and A-rod yelled myne. A-rod could play mind games with him all he wants but not when he is making a play. the players clearly know they are not suppose to distract a player trying to make a play on the ball and you saw the rule above. Carbera or any other ball player wouldnt do anything like that in the first place. A-rod was frustrated because the Yanks have lost a ton of games, i understand that but dont try to win cheaply.

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="bed412"]During the last series against the red sox A-Rod appeared to elbow Pedroia while trying to break up a double play. None of the sox wanted to make a big deal out of it, besides Pedroia, but its another example of A-Rod using cheap tactics. Theres nothing wrong with a hard slide but when you use your arms to push a fielder out of the way its crossing the line.coltss

sliding into second base is part of the game, and yelling into some1s ear trying to make a play is not. If A-rod doesnt want that much attention maybe he should play the game right.

It was a dirty move, and I can't believe some of you guys are actually defending this bull. Punk moves like this shouldn't be tolerated in this level of play. Renegade_Fury

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[QUOTE="chatri10"]This is competitive sports. Distraction is normal in every sports. If the guy can't catch the ball just because of a simple shout then he just sux. Don't blame it on other. I don not like A-Rod, but a simple shout to distract other player is normal in every sports unless it's golf or other sissy sports. NetYankEagle

allright have u ever seen anything like that during a MLB game its called bad sports manship not competitive sports. competitive sports is using ur skills not cheating to win a game.

allright i understand the crowd but a opposing player never tries to distract smeone whos trying to make a play its bad sportsmanship and its against the rules. And in basketball they dont talk to the shooter when he is shooting a ball its only before he shoots it. Howie Clarke was trying to make a play and A-rod yelled myne. A-rod could play mind games with him all he wants but not when he is making a play. the players clearly know they are not suppose to distract a player trying to make a play on the ball and you saw the rule above. Carbera or any other ball player wouldnt do anything like that in the first place. A-rod was frustrated because the Yanks have lost a ton of games, i understand that but dont try to win cheaply.

No if you watched the ROGERS SPORTSNET broadcast of the next toronto game they show a video with sound and he clearly says a very quick and short myne. I agree Glaus wouldnt have dropped it but howie clarke doesnt know how John Mcdonalds voice sounds like as well as Glaus. Its not like he dropped it by mistake he dropped it because of confusion.   

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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"][QUOTE="bed412"]During the last series against the red sox A-Rod appeared to elbow Pedroia while trying to break up a double play. None of the sox wanted to make a big deal out of it, besides Pedroia, but its another example of A-Rod using cheap tactics. Theres nothing wrong with a hard slide but when you use your arms to push a fielder out of the way its crossing the line.NetYankEagle

sliding into second base is part of the game, and yelling into some1s ear trying to make a play is not. If A-rod doesnt want that much attention maybe he should play the game right.

He doesnt have to stare at clarke he just yelled myne near him becuase he wanted to confuse Clarke. why would he randomly yell something in front of a player when he knows the inning is gonna be over after the catch.

I think when your own manager and team says its wrong, then it is indeed wrong. Numerous baseball people(former players, managers) have all agreed that it was a bad thing to do.  When you are concentrating on a pop up and you hear anything you move out of the way, especially if you play the corners in the infield,   the 2nd base and SS have the final say in who fields what ball.  The only case where this is different is if the ball is in shallow outfield when the outfielders will call off the infielders, and even then there is a "hierarchy" as to who gets final say, obviously a CF has a greater say than either of the corner outfielders.

Baseball is a game of respect, A-Rod even with his immense skills having to resort to this garbage is uncalled for.  Do you see Pujols do this crap, of course not. 

I think when your own manager and team says its wrong, then it is indeed wrong. Numerous baseball people(former players, managers) have all agreed that it was a bad thing to do.  When you are concentrating on a pop up and you hear anything you move out of the way, especially if you play the corners in the infield,   the 2nd base and SS have the final say in who fields what ball.  The only case where this is different is if the ball is in shallow outfield when the outfielders will call off the infielders, and even then there is a "hierarchy" as to who gets final say, obviously a CF has a greater say than either of the corner outfielders.

 

Baseball is a game of respect, A-Rod even with his immense skills having to resort to this garbage is uncalled for.  Do you see Pujols do this crap, of course not. 

nowitzki89

Exactly well said i completely agree

He actually yelled "MYNE" if u watch the third base camera shot u can clearly see it and the third baseman was a triple a call up it was his first game he didnt know what the SS voice was like becuz he hasnt played with him alot. Howie Clarke and John Mcdonald the 3rd baseman and the shortstop actually said to a reporter he said "MYNE". After interviewing the Yankee players almost evry1 sad no comment because they know this was bad sportsmenship if it wasnt some1 should have spoke up to defend ARod. Also there is actually a rule which states "a bas runner cannot confuse a feilder while making a play" or smthn like that, if the umpire herd him he would have been out but i guess he didnt hear him. I think John Gibbons should have protested the game if he did and the call was reversed they would have an another chance on a make up day to play bottm of the ninth inning with the score 7 - 5. I dont think thts Clarkes fault because its his first game with the Jays and if i was him i would back off  to because the shortstop makes the call. Plus you can clearly see him get out of the way on purpose. Why would a player do that even if hes a minor leagure?coltss

7.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when --
(a) After a third strike he hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball;
(b) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;
(c) Any member or members of the offensive team stand or gather around any base to which a runner is advancing, to confuse, hinder or add to the difficulty of the fielders. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate or teammates;
(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. mrgab

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when --
(a) After a third strike he hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball;
(b) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;
(c) Any member or members of the offensive team stand or gather around any base to which a runner is advancing, to confuse, hinder or add to the difficulty of the fielders. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate or teammates;
(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

i personally found yesterday's incident quite amusing. As for the Arroyo debacle, the slap itself was stupid, but he could have just as easily ran over Arroyo and knocked the ball free, which is what he should have done.dru26

If he did that he would of been declare "out" for running out of baseline.

and to knock arryo down.. mostl likey would of been interferince still

since he left the baseline

[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. wavebrid

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

Its part of the game, it happens all the time. Its only because its Arod and the Yankees that its a big deal for this week. The anti and pro Arod/Yankee people are just looking for a reason to debate.

It was a smart thing to do regardless of who did it, and it was foolish by that toronto player to fall for it.

[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. wavebrid

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when --
(a) After a third strike he hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball;
(b) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;
(c) Any member or members of the offensive team stand or gather around any base to which a runner is advancing, to confuse, hinder or add to the difficulty of the fielders. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate or teammates;
(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. mrgab

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

Its part of the game, it happens all the time. Its only because its Arod and the Yankees that its a big deal for this week. The anti and pro Arod/Yankee people are just looking for a reason to debate.

It was a smart thing to do regardless of who did it, and it was foolish by that toronto player to fall for it.

You cannot be more wrong, it doesn't happen all the time.  If you would have taken the time to look up to my last post you would see that.  It wasn't smart, it was bush league and a player of A-Rod's caliber should be ashamed of himself, maybe he was up late watching Baseketball and learned a new trick, but it was low of him to do it. 

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. NetYankEagle

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when --
(a) After a third strike he hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball;
(b) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;
(c) Any member or members of the offensive team stand or gather around any base to which a runner is advancing, to confuse, hinder or add to the difficulty of the fielders. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate or teammates;
(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

The catcher situation is a completely different scenario, If a ball is in play and players are converging on the ball, if you hear any word, it doesn't matter what you get out of the way, especially if you are a corner infielder, thats just the way the game is played.  The catcher is usually the only one who has a play on the ball that is foul tiipped back because he gets the jump on it. So I will ask you is this your first year watching baseball, because I can excuse you for using that comparison, if not then you must of never actually played baseball in your life. 

Man, I can't believe all the whining in this thread.  If you can't catch a fly ball just because someone is yelling then maybe you need to step down and let someone who actually can earn his multi-million dollar checks do it. 

What next, are we going to say that basketball players can't put their hands in somebody's face when shooting a jumpshot?  I mean after all, that distracts the shooting from properly making his shot, so let's all whine about this too!

For everyone who is disagreeing with the fact that it was a bad move let me ask you a question.  Have you heard of acceptable practices or unwritten rules.  This is one of those occasions where an unwritten rule applies, its all about the respect factor. UT that was possibly the most foolish comparison I have seen regarding this, how can those two things compare in any way, one comes in the regular routine of playing basketball, and is necessary for proper play.  Yelling mine or hah when a fielder is settling under a pop up isn't accepted and is disrespectful.  As I have said for the third time, a CORNER outfielder, that would be third or first base, will always cede the play to a MIDDLE infielder, being the shortstop and second base.  You hear ANY word you move out of the way, that is how it is.

I am not an A-ROD hater, far from it, it just irks me when a player of his caliber haas to resort to this garbage to gain an advantage. 

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. nowitzki89

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

Its part of the game, it happens all the time. Its only because its Arod and the Yankees that its a big deal for this week. The anti and pro Arod/Yankee people are just looking for a reason to debate.

It was a smart thing to do regardless of who did it, and it was foolish by that toronto player to fall for it.

You cannot be more wrong, it doesn't happen all the time.  If you would have taken the time to look up to my last post you would see that.  It wasn't smart, it was bush league and a player of A-Rod's caliber should be ashamed of himself, maybe he was up late watching Baseketball and learned a new trick, but it was low of him to do it. 

You must be new to baseball, because its has happenned many times. It was a good tactic that if Bill Hall of the Brewers had done, nobody would say anything negative about it, they would say nice job and this discussion would be over.

I have played baseball for nearly 13 years, so no I am not new to baseball.  I watch probably close to a dozen games every week and I have yet to see something that is in anyway similar to what happened.  If you could point out an instance of it, I will happily look at the case and see if it was like A-Rods situation. Don't just say it happens all the time, I have never seen an instance like this in my years of actually playing and watching.nowitzki89

Im sure if it did than we would of know about it

a-rod slaps ball out of arryos hand in acls 2004

a-rod yells something in tronto

see this is him not liking the rules. than he has a smrik on his face....  i wonder who really is telling the turth as of right now i cant wait to see what blue jays will do when a-rod bats.

Going to be looking foward to that.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]What Arod did was fine, its part of the game. Seen it done many times before, its smart play by a runner. The Toronto player was a dope for falling for it. NetYankEagle

NOT ITS NOT PART OF THE GAME!

ITS AGASIT THE RULES

PROOF

.09
It is interference by a batter or a runner when --
(a) After a third strike he hinders the catcher in his attempt to field the ball;
(b) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;
(c) Any member or members of the offensive team stand or gather around any base to which a runner is advancing, to confuse, hinder or add to the difficulty of the fielders. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate or teammates;
(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

you can call him being selffish ***

all ball players should play resepct

no i umpire LL an i  been watching baseball for awhile now :|

NOT IT HASNT :|

god kid you saying my first year watching baseball :roll:

yea alright whatever i show the rule to prove that YOU CANT DO IT