Joe Mauer Agrees To Contract Extension, 8 Years 184 Million

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8 years, 184 million, and no trade clause

Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

What's your take?

Good signing by the Twins, if they want to build something they can't lose what they already got.

Is Minnesota still a small market team?blackngold29

That's great news. I"m tired of Minnesota losing all their great players to free agency

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Is Minnesota still a small market team?Master_Live

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]Is Minnesota still a small market team?Master_Live

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8 years, 184 million, and no trade clause

Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

What's your take?

Jaysonguy

I agree. I mean, I'm happy for the fans and it's cool to see a guy staying somewhere for a long time, but it sucks that he has an uphill battle for winning a championship staying in Minn.

As much as I don't think he will win a championsip there, I find it hard to feel sorry for a guy who makes that kind of money:P

I'm sure Minnesota is ecstatic, and they have a pretty solid lineup now. Joe Nathan's injury is a tough pill to swallow though.

Course he will, if the new commissioner puts in a salary cap. X360PS3AMD05

Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

Jaysonguy

Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

Would have loved to see him in a RedSox uniform but glad he stayed where they really need him and the fact the yankees won't get him either. But it does say that it is time for the RedSox to lock up Victor Martinez.

I'm a little surprised Mauer didn't give the Twins more of a home team discount. I was expecting $18-20M per year, not 23. While $23M is still cheaper than what he would've landed on the open market, it can't be THAT much cheaper.

He could have gotten a Alex Rodriquez-sized contract if he had wanted to.

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Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

Messiahbolical-

Yes but he left 45-65 million dollars on the table to retire with zero championships

Usually a player will pick one, either play for the money or play for the championships

Mauer chose neither one

Yes, 185 isn't anything to sneeze at but it's also not that great compared to the offers he was going to get in the offseason PLUS having a chance to win and cement himself as an all time great

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Personally I think he's a fool that will retire with zero championships but that's just me

Jaysonguy

Yes but he left 45-65 million dollars on the table to retire with zero championships

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] He could retire with zero championships, but he'll be $184 million dollars richer. :| You ever wondered what it would be like to have $184 million dollars?Master_Live

Yes but he left 45-65 million dollars on the table to retire with zero championships

Oh easy.

The going rate for the best (fielding) FA last season was 180 million in a bad economy.

So Mauer who has numbers that rival Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio only gets 5 more before he enters his prime?

225 would have been the minimum he got in the offseason. He's literally someone you can build your entire team around and then if need be you can move him from catcher to another position because he's still so dangerous with the bat.

As for winning a championship? Ehh, look at the moves the Twins have made over the years and you really have to have the "half full" way of thinking to think they'll be one of the teams in the World Series in the next decade.

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Yes but he left 45-65 million dollars on the table to retire with zero championships

Jaysonguy

Oh easy.

The going rate for the best (fielding) FA last season was 180 million in a bad economy.

So Mauer who has numbers that rival Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio only gets 5 more before he enters his prime?

225 would have been the minimum he got in the offseason. He's literally someone you can build your entire team around and then if need be you can move him from catcher to another position because he's still so dangerous with the bat.

As for winning a championship? Ehh, look at the moves the Twins have made over the years and you really have to have the "half full" way of thinking to think they'll be one of the teams in the World Series in the next decade.

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[QUOTE="Master_Live"] You don't know that.

metswonin69

Oh easy.

The going rate for the best (fielding) FA last season was 180 million in a bad economy.

So Mauer who has numbers that rival Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio only gets 5 more before he enters his prime?

225 would have been the minimum he got in the offseason. He's literally someone you can build your entire team around and then if need be you can move him from catcher to another position because he's still so dangerous with the bat.

As for winning a championship? Ehh, look at the moves the Twins have made over the years and you really have to have the "half full" way of thinking to think they'll be one of the teams in the World Series in the next decade.

Williams was a better hitter in relation to the league at the time, but pitching has come a long way since he played. Let me see if I can find the adjusted stats for all of those old players...

Ok, when the statistics are adjusted to put everybody in the same context, Ted Williams career OPS is 1.116, and Mauer's is .935, for a difference of only .181. For comparison, Joe Dimaggio's adjusted OPS is .954. So Mauer is at least in the ballpark with these guys. Considering how young Mauer is, the Twins got a bargain, provided his production stays the same.

Good signing and most likely going to help the Twins solidify their line-up for the long-run. With Target Field (new Twins park) being designed to be a hitter's park that Twins' line-up will do damage and their pitching has always been solid. It doesn't guarantee Mauer a ring, but then even the Red Sox and yankees huge payroll doesn't guarantee they win rings either. It just makes it easier for them to try and win one.

idk anyone else think Mauer might be a bit overvalued? Obviously a 365 average is sick, but last year was the first year he hit over 20 homers. If he keeps that up, then hes for sure in the top 3 players playing today, but idk I feel like an 8 year deal is a bit of risk...especiallyif he has to move to 1st with his power numbers settling back to earth

idk anyone else think Mauer might be a bit overvalued? Obviously a 365 average is sick, but last year was the first year he hit over 20 homers. If he keeps that up, then hes for sure in the top 3 players playing today, but idk I feel like an 8 year deal is a bit of risk...especiallyif he has to move to 1st with his power numbers settling back to earth

ThePostalWorker

He would be worth this much even if he wasn't a 20+ home run guy, which he will continue to be. His RBI's have increased the past 3 seasons. The OBP is incredible. If he continues to hit for power, the Twins have a bargain. The only risky part of the deal is the length.

idk anyone else think Mauer might be a bit overvalued? Obviously a 365 average is sick, but last year was the first year he hit over 20 homers. If he keeps that up, then hes for sure in the top 3 players playing today, but idk I feel like an 8 year deal is a bit of risk...especiallyif he has to move to 1st with his power numbers settling back to earth

ThePostalWorker

I actually think his power numbers would go up if he moves to first permanently. His legs would be fresher throughout the season which means better balance on his swing.

Just about offense, look at Piaza's numbers and tell me Mauer is better. Master_Live

Mauer is significantly better defensively. You could even call Piazza a defensive liability. Mauer is a world class defensive catcher, in addition to his offensive skills.

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Just about offense, look at Piaza's numbers and tell me Mauer is better. TaCoDuDe

Mauer is significantly better defensively. You could even call Piazza a defensive liability. Mauer is a world class defensive catcher, in addition to his offensive skills.

Exactly, Joe Mauer is as close to a 5-tool catcher as we'll get.

Just about offense, look at Piaza's numbers and tell me Mauer is better. Master_Live

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Just about offense, look at Piaza's numbers and tell me Mauer is better. CleanPlayer

Everyone else was too, didn't make them as good as Piazza. X360PS3AMD05

I can say the same for Piazza, you can't prove either way, Mauer may very well be on HGH but i can't prove it either.X360PS3AMD05

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I can say the same for Piazza, you can't prove either way, Mauer may very well be on HGH but i can't prove it either.CleanPlayer

Unfortunatly that is the stigma that all players will have to face which is unfair if they are actually clean