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#1 cLAssic_BLUE
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i live in so cal and listen to sports talk radio everyday at work. something i noticed for a while now is that staions here in LA speak of the chargers as if they played in LA. i know LA doesn't have an NFL team but living off the chargers drives me crazy.
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LA needs an NFL team really bad. I don't understand how you can be one of the biggest cities in this country and not have a football team. LA is the place where dreams happen and anything goes. Obviously the football owners don't think the same. I really wish LA would get an NFL football team.
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i wish LA had a team so there would be a team to follow and support. im a huge Dodger fan, watch as many games as i can and know the team like the back of my hand. Im one of those people who follow all the home teams and not having an NFL team to root for blows.
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i wish LA had a team so there would be a team to follow and support. im a huge Dodger fan, watch as many games as i can and know the team like the back of my hand. Im one of those people who follow all the home teams and not having an NFL team to root for blows.cLAssic_BLUE

yep, it makes no sense. la has a legendary mlb team, two nba teams, a soccer player who gets paid millions for doing nothing, and no football team. with many cities, the problem is the economy. with la, the problem is politics. la could easily afford an nfl team, but petty reasons get in the way.

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I'm a Chargers fan by default. I was a Rams fan as a kid, but when they left I refused to support a team that abandoned me. For awhile I swore off of football, but after awhile I missed the NFL. I picked up the Chargers at the end of the 90s, but I'm an LA fan at heart. What I would really like is for the Chargers to move to LA, which isn't likely, but either way I want LA to get a team again SOON.
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its a shame a market that big doesnt have a football team
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#7 andyboiii
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yup the majority out here in LA either root for the Chargers or the Raiders
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One of the issues with LA getting a team is that for the longest time the NFL demanded a new stadium for the team. LA already has several football stadiums in the area and understandably they didn't want to spend money on a new one with the others being empty on Sunday's. Word has it the NFL an LA county agreed that maybe a new team could move into one of the existing stadiums.
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Why did the Raider moved to Oakland? I just want the Raider to move back to LA and get the hell out of the bay area. I guess I'm saying this because I'm a 49ers fan.
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Why did the Raider moved to Oakland? I just want the Raider to move back to LA and get the hell out of the bay area. I guess I'm saying this because I'm a 49ers fan. chatri10

I don't live there so I'm sure I'm missing some aspects, but it does seem odd to have two teams up there and none in LA. IMO the Raiders should be in LA.

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#11 Just_Osmo
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"Citys" don't need a team, State's have teams. Usually you support the Home team of your state, some state's do require more then 1 team though due to size. Hell us in New England has one team, now thats some huge revenue.
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[QUOTE="chatri10"]Why did the Raider moved to Oakland? I just want the Raider to move back to LA and get the hell out of the bay area. I guess I'm saying this because I'm a 49ers fan. duxup

I don't live there so I'm sure I'm missing some aspects, but it does seem odd to have two teams up there and none in LA. IMO the Raiders should be in LA.

No way. The Raiders have historically been a Bay Area team. They only spent about 15 years in LA. They should stay in Oakland where they belong. The Rams, on the other hand, came to LA in 1939. They are the "true" LA team, but there is no chance of getting them back any time soon.
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"Citys" don't need a team, State's have teams. Usually you support the Home team of your state, some state's do require more then 1 team though due to size. Hell us in New England has one team, now thats some huge revenue.Just_Osmo
That only works for tiny states or states with little population. For great states like California, with so many huge cities, at least 3 teams in every sport is justified.

But your "homer" argument doesn't work well on this site, anyway. Half of these kids threw a dart at the map to pick their teams. It has nothing to do with where they're from or live. I still don't understand it.

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[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]"Citys" don't need a team, State's have teams. Usually you support the Home team of your state, some state's do require more then 1 team though due to size. Hell us in New England has one team, now thats some huge revenue.murlow12

That only works for tiny states or states with little population. For great states like California, with so many huge cities, at least 3 teams in every sport is justified.

But your "homer" argument doesn't work well on this site, anyway. Half of these kids threw a dart at the map to pick their teams. It has nothing to do with where they're from or live. I still don't understand it.

I did say some states need more then one team due to size, but no state needs more then 2 if you ask me. If peopel can drive from Maine to MA to watch a Pat's game then people in Cali/Texas can drive 3 hours also to see a game.

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#15 Just_Osmo
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="chatri10"]Why did the Raider moved to Oakland? I just want the Raider to move back to LA and get the hell out of the bay area. I guess I'm saying this because I'm a 49ers fan. murlow12

I don't live there so I'm sure I'm missing some aspects, but it does seem odd to have two teams up there and none in LA. IMO the Raiders should be in LA.

No way. The Raiders have historically been a Bay Area team. They only spent about 15 years in LA. They should stay in Oakland where they belong. The Rams, on the other hand, came to LA in 1939. They are the "true" LA team, but there is no chance of getting them back any time soon.

Sounds to me that LA had their chance with teams and didn't support them properly and they jumped ship.

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[QUOTE="murlow12"]

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]"Citys" don't need a team, State's have teams. Usually you support the Home team of your state, some state's do require more then 1 team though due to size. Hell us in New England has one team, now thats some huge revenue.Just_Osmo

That only works for tiny states or states with little population. For great states like California, with so many huge cities, at least 3 teams in every sport is justified.

But your "homer" argument doesn't work well on this site, anyway. Half of these kids threw a dart at the map to pick their teams. It has nothing to do with where they're from or live. I still don't understand it.

I did say some states need more then one team due to size, but no state needs more then 2 if you ask me. If peopel can drive from Maine to MA to watch a Pat's game then people in Cali/Texas can drive 3 hours also to see a game.

Due to size of what? Population? Land area? And people in Texas and Cali do drive three hours and even more to see a game that's a lot closer to them than Maine is to Mass, it's called "traffic".

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You don't think Boston has traffic? The worst city in the world to travel in? ever hear of the Big Dig?

..and I meant by Size and Population, ofcourse if theres no fans in the state then theres no room for a new club.

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You don't think Boston has traffic? The worst city in the world to travel in? ever hear of the Big Dig?

..and I meant by Size and Population, ofcourse if theres no fans in the state then theres no room for a new club.

Just_Osmo

Every large city has traffic and travel problems. But to say that Boston is the worst city in the world to travel in kind of suggests that you haven't lived too far beyond that area. Imagine three or four Boston's right next to each other and then try to say that they can only have one or two teams. By the way, there's a link I posted below in regards to traffic in this country and I don't see the Boston area anywhere on there. But I do see some Cali and Texas places. And on another note, if you did mean size and population, what do you mean by them? Please inform us how you feelthe size and population of a state should determine the placement of pro teams in that area?

http://www.forbes.com/logistics/2006/02/06/worst-traffic-nightmares-cx_rm_0207traffic.html

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#19 Just_Osmo
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[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

You don't think Boston has traffic? The worst city in the world to travel in? ever hear of the Big Dig?

..and I meant by Size and Population, ofcourse if theres no fans in the state then theres no room for a new club.

jt222_us

Every large city has traffic and travel problems. But to say that Boston is the worst city in the world to travel in kind of suggests that you haven't lived too far beyond that area. Imagine three or four Boston's right next to each other and then try to say that they can only have one or two teams. By the way, there's a link I posted below in regards to traffic in this country and I don't see the Boston area anywhere on there. But I do see some Cali and Texas places. And on another note, if you did mean size and population, what do you mean by them? Please inform us how you feelthe size and population of a state should determine the placement of pro teams in that area?

http://www.forbes.com/logistics/2006/02/06/worst-traffic-nightmares-cx_rm_0207traffic.html

I meant that a state has no need for more then 2 pro teams. of any sport. You dont need a team for every large city it's just overkill. The original posted said that LA radio Host talked of the chargers as if they were their citys team, and he was sick of living off the chargers drives him crazy. San Diego and LA are 121 miles apart, thats 2 hours driving time (figure 3 hrs with alot of traffic). To say you need a team directly in the city is just retarded The Pat's arent in Boston or Providence Or Concord yet all of New England root for our team and no one cares about a team for every big city.

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#20 murlow12
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[QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

You don't think Boston has traffic? The worst city in the world to travel in? ever hear of the Big Dig?

..and I meant by Size and Population, ofcourse if theres no fans in the state then theres no room for a new club.

Just_Osmo

Every large city has traffic and travel problems. But to say that Boston is the worst city in the world to travel in kind of suggests that you haven't lived too far beyond that area. Imagine three or four Boston's right next to each other and then try to say that they can only have one or two teams. By the way, there's a link I posted below in regards to traffic in this country and I don't see the Boston area anywhere on there. But I do see some Cali and Texas places. And on another note, if you did mean size and population, what do you mean by them? Please inform us how you feelthe size and population of a state should determine the placement of pro teams in that area?

http://www.forbes.com/logistics/2006/02/06/worst-traffic-nightmares-cx_rm_0207traffic.html

I meant that a state has no need for more then 2 pro teams. of any sport. You dont need a team for every large city it's just overkill. The original posted said that LA radio Host talked of the chargers as if they were their citys team, and he was sick of living off the chargers drives him crazy. San Diego and LA are 121 miles apart, thats 2 hours driving time (figure 3 hrs with alot of traffic). To say you need a team directly in the city is just retarded The Pat's arent in Boston or Providence Or Concord yet all of New England root for our team and no one cares about a team for every big city.

You just proved the point. Boston is the only big city in the area, thus only 1 team.
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As far as I'm concerned, LA is Raider/49er territory first, then charger territory.

It's slowly changing into the Chargers favor (due to their success, and the raiders/49ers lack of it).

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#22 Just_Osmo
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[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="jt222_us"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

You don't think Boston has traffic? The worst city in the world to travel in? ever hear of the Big Dig?

..and I meant by Size and Population, ofcourse if theres no fans in the state then theres no room for a new club.

murlow12

Every large city has traffic and travel problems. But to say that Boston is the worst city in the world to travel in kind of suggests that you haven't lived too far beyond that area. Imagine three or four Boston's right next to each other and then try to say that they can only have one or two teams. By the way, there's a link I posted below in regards to traffic in this country and I don't see the Boston area anywhere on there. But I do see some Cali and Texas places. And on another note, if you did mean size and population, what do you mean by them? Please inform us how you feelthe size and population of a state should determine the placement of pro teams in that area?

http://www.forbes.com/logistics/2006/02/06/worst-traffic-nightmares-cx_rm_0207traffic.html

I meant that a state has no need for more then 2 pro teams. of any sport. You dont need a team for every large city it's just overkill. The original posted said that LA radio Host talked of the chargers as if they were their citys team, and he was sick of living off the chargers drives him crazy. San Diego and LA are 121 miles apart, thats 2 hours driving time (figure 3 hrs with alot of traffic). To say you need a team directly in the city is just retarded The Pat's arent in Boston or Providence Or Concord yet all of New England root for our team and no one cares about a team for every big city.

You just proved the point. Boston is the only big city in the area, thus only 1 team.

Thats not the only big city, Hartford, Providence... But that doesnt matter a city doesn't need a team states need teams, and you travel to see them or watch it on TV. To cry and moan because a city doesn't have a team is outrageous. Besides NE Patriots aren't in Boston and we have 6 States that support them and no one wants their own team just cause it's not in their town.

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As far as I'm concerned, LA is Raider/49er territory first, then charger territory.

It's slowly changing into the Chargers favor (due to their success, and the raiders/49ers lack of it).

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Since when is LA 49er territory? That's ludicrous. Maybe some people jumped on the bandwagon in the 80s and 90s when the Niners were good, but nobody in LA has any legitimate reason to root for the Niners.
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Thats not the only big city, Hartford, Providence... But that doesnt matter a city doesn't need a team states need teams, and you travel to see them or watch it on TV. To cry and moan because a city doesn't have a team is outrageous. Besides NE Patriots aren't in Boston and we have 6 States that support them and no one wants their own team just cause it's not in their town.Just_Osmo

Hartford: population 125,000

Providence: population 173,000

Yeah, real big cities. :roll:

Compare those to the largest California cities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_California_(by_population)

There are 25 CA cities larger than Providence. Your argument fails. California needs at least 4 teams.

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LAdoesnt need another team, they lost the raiders and rams already
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[QUOTE="HurricaneHugo"]

As far as I'm concerned, LA is Raider/49er territory first, then charger territory.

It's slowly changing into the Chargers favor (due to their success, and the raiders/49ers lack of it).

murlow12
Since when is LA 49er territory? That's ludicrous. Maybe some people jumped on the bandwagon in the 80s and 90s when the Niners were good, but nobody in LA has any legitimate reason to root for the Niners.

Yeah that's what i was thinking. Hugo nice way to be a fairweather fan and jump ships when your team is down.
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[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="HurricaneHugo"]

As far as I'm concerned, LA is Raider/49er territory first, then charger territory.

It's slowly changing into the Chargers favor (due to their success, and the raiders/49ers lack of it).

Bobbles

Since when is LA 49er territory? That's ludicrous. Maybe some people jumped on the bandwagon in the 80s and 90s when the Niners were good, but nobody in LA has any legitimate reason to root for the Niners.

Yeah that's what i was thinking. Hugo nice way to be a fairweather fan and jump ships when your team is down.

Huh??!

I'm a San Diego native and have been a Charger fan all my life....

Anyways, I found this map that maps many team's territories in terms of fanbase.

LA is interesting since it has a little bit of everything.

http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=1

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[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]Thats not the only big city, Hartford, Providence... But that doesnt matter a city doesn't need a team states need teams, and you travel to see them or watch it on TV. To cry and moan because a city doesn't have a team is outrageous. Besides NE Patriots aren't in Boston and we have 6 States that support them and no one wants their own team just cause it's not in their town.murlow12

Hartford: population 125,000

Providence: population 173,000

Yeah, real big cities. :roll:

Compare those to the largest California cities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_California_(by_population)

There are 25 CA cities larger than Providence. Your argument fails. California needs at least 4 teams.

Still doesn't change my comment that LA had a team and they left due to lack of support. Seems you had a chance and blew it, now youw ant a new team. I doubt anyone will bring one back to have the same thing happen again.

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the chargers actually started out in LA, yes they did, look it up.
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the chargers actually started out in LA, yes they did, look it up.SegArgyle
Yeah, but it was only for 1 year. They've been in San Diego since 1961.
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Los Angeles already has the Lakers, Clippers, LA Galaxy, Chivas USA, Dodgers, Angels of Arnaheim, Kings, Arnaheim Ducks, Avengers, Riptide. And L.A also has USC and UCLA sports teams. There is no more need for another sports team, seriously. Be thankful theres so many sports teams in your city. I live in Jacksonville and the only thing we have here are the Jaguars. We have no MLB, NHL, MLS, or NBA team and probably will never see one.
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Los Angeles already has the Lakers, Clippers, LA Galaxy, Chivas USA, Dodgers, Angels of Arnaheim, Kings, Arnaheim Ducks, Avengers, Riptide. And L.A also has USC and UCLA sports teams. There is no more need for another sports team, seriously. Be thankful theres so many sports teams in your city. I live in Jacksonville and the only thing we have here are the Jaguars. We have no MLB, NHL, MLS, or NBA team and probably will never see one. CommanderShiro

your very wrong

LA is the second largest market next to nyc and it's stupid for the NFL to NOT have a team there

they'll get it

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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Los Angeles already has the Lakers, Clippers, LA Galaxy, Chivas USA, Dodgers, Angels of Arnaheim, Kings, Arnaheim Ducks, Avengers, Riptide. And L.A also has USC and UCLA sports teams. There is no more need for another sports team, seriously. Be thankful theres so many sports teams in your city. I live in Jacksonville and the only thing we have here are the Jaguars. We have no MLB, NHL, MLS, or NBA team and probably will never see one. SegArgyle

your very wrong

LA is the second largest market next to nyc and it's stupid for the NFL to NOT have a team there

they'll get it


They already had an NFL team and they didn't support it so they moved to a different city. What don't you people get about that?

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San Diego and LA are 121 miles apart, thats 2 hours driving time (figure 3 hrs with alot of traffic).

Just_Osmo

I see some one has never driven from San Diego to L.A. in real traffic, lets just say I would have kissing the groud if it was only 3 hours.

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[QUOTE="chatri10"]Why did the Raider moved to Oakland? I just want the Raider to move back to LA and get the hell out of the bay area. I guess I'm saying this because I'm a 49ers fan. duxup

I don't live there so I'm sure I'm missing some aspects, but it does seem odd to have two teams up there and none in LA. IMO the Raiders should be in LA.

LA didn't support the Raiders. They have an insane fanbase in Oakland. I personally don't care for the team because of their loony fans, but why would they leave a city that's so devoted to them?



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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Los Angeles already has the Lakers, Clippers, LA Galaxy, Chivas USA, Dodgers, Angels of Arnaheim, Kings, Arnaheim Ducks, Avengers, Riptide. And L.A also has USC and UCLA sports teams. There is no more need for another sports team, seriously. Be thankful theres so many sports teams in your city. I live in Jacksonville and the only thing we have here are the Jaguars. We have no MLB, NHL, MLS, or NBA team and probably will never see one. SegArgyle

your very wrong

LA is the second largest market next to nyc and it's stupid for the NFL to NOT have a team there

they'll get it

Well, New York doesn't even have one team. Both "New York" teams play in Jersey.