Marion Barber Plus Pick/s For Darren McFadden

Everyone knows how much Jerry Jones loves Arkansas and now he wants more of it in big D.

The trade would be Barber plus pick/s for the number one of Miami's so they can nab McFadden.

If I was Miami I'd be all over this. I mean pro bowl RB plus pick/s is just what the doctor ordered

dumb trade for both sides.

1. Miami has Ronnie Brown who is a top RB when healthy. Unless they have reason to believe he's not coming back from his injury, why would they take a RB in trade when they have other positions they need to upgrade...like...EVERYTHING ELSE?

2. Dallas is a top tier team -- their draft picks would be low in the rounds which hurts their value

3. Why would Dallas dump a proven back AND picks for a back who is unproven at the pro level and may not be better?

I see this as risk vs. reward. I don't keep up much with College football but people are talking about McFadden like they were talking about AD last year. If McFadden turns out to be another AD, I think any team that had the chance to snatch him would be banging their heads against the walls.

But then again Barber is a proven back, don't see why they would trade him away.

hmmmmmm as a Redskins fan I hope they make the worst decision possible hahaha ;)

That'd make no sense for both teams.JML897

It makes sense when you look at it deeper

Dallas now has a proven QB and WR pair plus an offensive line that is better then most in the NFL. Running back is a part of the team they can fool with and still not screw up their offense. With Barber they know what they have and while it's great and steady Marion will never be the game breaker. In McFadden they have the potential for a player that can bring it to the house on any touch. It would Make an already dangerous offense lethal to most defenses.

Miami has Brown but he's never shown that he can be the main back. He's shown that can can be a much better back when he's sharing the load. Enter Marion Barber and the ability to be able to carry the ball up to 20 times in a game if need be with no problems. Now all of a sudden you have a great threat at running back that gains a defense's attention. This means that Beck gets a chance to show what he can do in the NFL without the constant pressure of no running game. It also helps the line so you don't have to do drastic changes all around if the team doesn't have the luxury of picks.

If it works (there's always the if) it makes sense for both teams.

Dallas becomes more dangerous

Miami gets the help they need for their young QB and their line.

I don't believe Romo is a proven QB. Depends on your look on things I guess because to this day I don't consider Brett Farve a proven QB.

They force too many throws when they shouldn't and it hurts the teams chances of winning. You saw it in the divisional round when Cowboys played Giants and in the conference championship when Packers played the Giants. I'm not saying the loss is completely their fault, it did contribute to it though.

Romo also couldn't grip the ball with his thumb since November so I'm not quick to pass judgement there.

There's no reason to show that Romo (when healthy) wont have the same sort of production that he had last season. If they have McFadden then they have a home run hitter to add to the mix.

Just look what Sota was able to do this season because of Peterson. They could have a cardboard cutout play QB and win 6 games with Peterson in the backfield. If McFadden is able to do half of that Dallas becomes the most dangerous offense in the NFC.

But if McFadden turns out to be a bust, you look like a moron for giving away a proven back.

Could they possibly ship out Jones instead of Barber? I doubt the Tuna would want him knowing how bad he is since he coached Dallas.

Jones is a free agent and Dallas said they're not trying to retain him.

I agree that it's a risk taking McFadden but like I said above they have an established passing game and a good line. While I don't think that ANY back could operate behind that line I do think that they could get average production out of a lesser back if they had to fall back because of a bust situation.

Would be a horrible trade. They already have a great back who is better than Barber in RonnieBrown. With Barber they get another pro bowl back but move down 20 spots. The Phins are not in a spot where they can get stockpile at one position. With this trade, they'd have the best RB combo next year and will be the worst team at virtually everywhere else. Either trade it for more picks or keep it and bring in a defensive or offensive anchor for the next decade.manningbowl135

Ronnie Brown is not a better back than Marion Barber. Brown is injury prone and largely unproductive. He missed 9 games this season. In his three years as an NFL back, he has eclipsed 1000 yards only once, in 2006, and just barely (1,008 yards). The most rushing TDs he has registered in one season is 5, the same year he edged past the 1,000 yard mark.

Marion Barber, on the other hand, is a bruiser who has proven himself reliable on a regular basis and lethal at the goal line. He's a bruiser with Adrian Peterson-like fearlessness, really. Over the past two seasons, he's totaled 24 rushing TDs (10 this season, and 14 the last).

Frankly, there isn't much of a comparison. Barber is better than Brown.

Romo also couldn't grip the ball with his thumb since November so I'm not quick to pass judgement there.

There's no reason to show that Romo (when healthy) wont have the same sort of production that he had last season. If they have McFadden then they have a home run hitter to add to the mix.

Just look what Sota was able to do this season because of Peterson. They could have a cardboard cutout play QB and win 6 games with Peterson in the backfield. If McFadden is able to do half of that Dallas becomes the most dangerous offense in the NFC.

Jaysonguy

I'd still have the offense led by Peyton or Brady than Dallas.

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]Would be a horrible trade. They already have a great back who is better than Barber in RonnieBrown. With Barber they get another pro bowl back but move down 20 spots. The Phins are not in a spot where they can get stockpile at one position. With this trade, they'd have the best RB combo next year and will be the worst team at virtually everywhere else. Either trade it for more picks or keep it and bring in a defensive or offensive anchor for the next decade.NanakiNebula

Ronnie Brown is not a better back than Marion Barber. Brown is injury prone and largely unproductive. He missed 9 games this season. In his three years as an NFL back, he has eclipsed 1000 yards only once, in 2006, and just barely (1,008 yards). The most rushing TDs he has registered in one season is 5, the same year he edged past the 1,000 yard mark.

Marion Barber, on the other hand, is a bruiser who has proven himself reliable on a regular basis and lethal at the goal line. He's a bruiser with Adrian Peterson-like fearlessness, really. Over the past two seasons, he's totaled 24 rushing TDs (10 this season, and 14 the last).

Frankly, there isn't much of a comparison. Barber is better than Brown.

Ronnie Brown was leading the league in YPC when he went down. He is injury prone, but when healthy, Brown is a much, much better back. He can go outside or inside. Faster and averaged 5 YPC with the Miami O-line in 7 games this year. That's much more impressive than 4.8 with the Dallas line that has 3 pro bowlers.

I don't understand why you're bringing up 1000 yard seasons. Brown shared carries the last two years with Ricky Williams and didn't get a starter's carries. This year he was on pace to get 1300+ yards rushing.

After that is the biggest reason Brown is better. He is one of the best pass catching RB in the league. This year he had 39 receptions in only 7 games. Barber had 44 in 16 games. Barber gained 282 yards receiving in 16 games. Brown, 389 in 7 games. Brown is a better playmaker on the outside.

Barber is a better bruising back, but that's the only place he's better than Brown.

This would be an awful trade. No way in hell Dallas should trade away Barber and lose picks for a running back that hasn't seen a signle NFL snap.

people i know jerry jones would trade WR Terry Glenn DT Fugrusion LB Carpenter SS Williams

Jerry would trade roy williams if he get a decent SS in return

people i know jerry jones would trade WR Terry Glenn DT Fugrusion LB Carpenter SS Williams

Jerry would trade roy williams if he get a decent SS in return

Lord_Pro

Roy is a fan favorite but anyone who knows the game better than the average fan knows his coverage skills are horrible. I think Jerry Jones would get crapped on by boys fans for doing such a move though, cuz every person who is a cowboys fan around my area always has an R.Williams jersey on...

I think it's far more likely the Cowboys move up slightly (if they even have to move up) to take Felix Jones.

And CVasquez was talking about people being upset if Williams is traded (and he's probably right) but Barber is the biggest fan favorite on the team amongst fans in the Dallas area. There'd be riots...

I think it's far more likely the Cowboys move up slightly (if they even have to move up) to take Felix Jones.

And CVasquez was talking about people being upset if Williams is traded (and he's probably right) but Barber is the biggest fan favorite on the team amongst fans in the Dallas area. There'd be riots...

3KindgomsRandy

Emmitt Smith is a legend and Jones let him suit up in another jersey and the fans still kept coming.

The Cowboys will be fine either way.

sry wait i thought uguys were talkin about marion barber gettin traded for ronnie brown lollll anywways darren mcfadden is really good so why not go for it?? but the only reason im mad about is i just bought marion barbers jersey.tomoward41

Jesus what was that 10 posts in a row?

Barber is a very good back. Why trade a proven back and picks for an unproven back?

The mind boggles.

[QUOTE="tomoward41"]sry wait i thought uguys were talkin about marion barber gettin traded for ronnie brown lollll anywways darren mcfadden is really good so why not go for it?? but the only reason im mad about is i just bought marion barbers jersey.Just_Osmo

Jesus what was that 10 posts in a row?

oh im sry for posting 10 in a row new england is gonna lose aggainst the giants anyway, u betta getcha popcorn ready. tom brady is gonna choke.

I think it's far more likely the Cowboys move up slightly (if they even have to move up) to take Felix Jones.

And CVasquez was talking about people being upset if Williams is traded (and he's probably right) but Barber is the biggest fan favorite on the team amongst fans in the Dallas area. There'd be riots...

3KindgomsRandy

Why would they trade up for an even more unproven back? Off the top of my head I would put Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall in front of Jones, possibly even Jammal Charles.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="tomoward41"]sry wait i thought uguys were talkin about marion barber gettin traded for ronnie brown lollll anywways darren mcfadden is really good so why not go for it?? but the only reason im mad about is i just bought marion barbers jersey.tomoward41

Jesus what was that 10 posts in a row?

oh im sry for posting 10 in a row new england is gonna lose aggainst the giants anyway, u betta getcha popcorn ready. tom brady is gonna choke.

Yeah, the two-time Superbowl MVP is going to choke.. :|

[QUOTE="Lord_Pro"]

people i know jerry jones would trade WR Terry Glenn DT Fugrusion LB Carpenter SS Williams

Jerry would trade roy williams if he get a decent SS in return

cvasquez311

Roy is a fan favorite but anyone who knows the game better than the average fan knows his coverage skills are horrible. I think Jerry Jones would get crapped on by boys fans for doing such a move though, cuz every person who is a cowboys fan around my area always has an R.Williams jersey on...

all cowboys fans i know think roy williams sucks...including me. but i guess im only counting real fans that know at least alittle bit about the game..

This is a DUMB move by Dallas.

Dallas needs help in their Defensive Secondary and Linebackers - why the hell would they give up a GREAT Runningback and other draft picks for a Runningback?

It doesn't improve their team at all.

Barber is a good, young RB and he's proven he can do it in the NFL. McFadden has proven NOTHING.

[QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"]

I think it's far more likely the Cowboys move up slightly (if they even have to move up) to take Felix Jones.

And CVasquez was talking about people being upset if Williams is traded (and he's probably right) but Barber is the biggest fan favorite on the team amongst fans in the Dallas area. There'd be riots...

Jaysonguy

Emmitt Smith is a legend and Jones let him suit up in another jersey and the fans still kept coming.

The Cowboys will be fine either way.

By the end though, there weren't many fans who weren't ready for Smith to go. Barber isn't even in his prime yet.

And of course, I was using hyperbole. It's the Cowboys, you could put me in as the starting running back and there'd still be a full stadium. They wouldn't be especially happy, but it would still be largely full.

[QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"]

I think it's far more likely the Cowboys move up slightly (if they even have to move up) to take Felix Jones.

And CVasquez was talking about people being upset if Williams is traded (and he's probably right) but Barber is the biggest fan favorite on the team amongst fans in the Dallas area. There'd be riots...

geaux321

Why would they trade up for an even more unproven back? Off the top of my head I would put Jonathan Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall in front of Jones, possibly even Jammal Charles.

I didn't say that's what I thought they should do, but I think it's the much more likely scenario for Jones. That way, he gets his Razorback and doesn't have to give up much.

[QUOTE="cvasquez311"][QUOTE="Lord_Pro"]

people i know jerry jones would trade WR Terry Glenn DT Fugrusion LB Carpenter SS Williams

Jerry would trade roy williams if he get a decent SS in return

dcowboys3315

Roy is a fan favorite but anyone who knows the game better than the average fan knows his coverage skills are horrible. I think Jerry Jones would get crapped on by boys fans for doing such a move though, cuz every person who is a cowboys fan around my area always has an R.Williams jersey on...

all cowboys fans i know think roy williams sucks...including me. but i guess im only counting real fans that know at least alittle bit about the game..

word dcowboys3315. funny thing is he makes it to the pro-bowl. says alot about pro-bowl voting. ;)

Wow if this goes tru im siding with all the Skins fans and agree that Jones is a horrible owner. If I were Miami id be all over this, plus Brown and Barber both know how to share the backfield going back to College. Oh and Geaux as much as I agree with you, id be a miracle if Jones passed on Felix with all those 3 rb's there...maybe Stewart.Espurs117