MLB 2K10 Demo... You May Be Surprised...

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#1 nickdastick
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So I downloaded the MLB 2K10 demo to check it out since I have heard it's actually looking pretty good and that Visual Concepts only had 3/4's of the time to make last years baseball game (which is supposedly a big reason why it was horrid). I'm not going to lie to you, I'm impressed! I own a PS3 and MLB 09 The Show is epic, but MLB 2K10 is looking great! The hitting and the pitching alone are reason enough to make any baseball fan cry tears of joy! The fielding also played really well (I've only played 8 innings or so, but what I saw was crisp and much better than last year, especially double plays) and the animations were solid. Also, the presentation is stellar! I hit a grounder with Jeter to Rollins and it was going to be a close play at 1st. Rollins whips it and as it gets about halfway to the bag the view changes to where you are behind the ball and can see the runner and it goes slow-mo so you can see if you are safe or not. It is really cool to see! Also, with missed swings it shows an overhead view and lets you take a look at the swing reviewer.

I was dead set on picking up MLB 10 The Show until playing MLB 2K10 because I am really surprised (and happy) with the changes they made. I very much prefer hitting with the stick (especially this year because it works very well) and pitching with the stick, but the changes to the fielding may have put it over the top for me. I'm probably going to have to rent both and see which one I like more... Stupid sports games complicating my life!

Has anyone else played it yet? What do you think?

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[QUOTE="nickdastick"]

So I downloaded the MLB 2K10 demo to check it out since I have heard it's actually looking pretty good and that Visual Concepts only had 3/4's of the time to make last years baseball game (which is supposedly a big reason why it was horrid). I'm not going to lie to you, I'm impressed! I own a PS3 and MLB 09 The Show is epic, but MLB 2K10 is looking great! The hitting and the pitching alone are reason enough to make any baseball fan cry tears of joy! The fielding also played really well (I've only played 8 innings or so, but what I saw was crisp and much better than last year, especially double plays) and the animations were solid. Also, the presentation is stellar! I hit a grounder with Jeter to Rollins and it was going to be a close play at 1st. Rollins whips it and as it gets about halfway to the bag the view changes to where you are behind the ball and can see the runner and it goes slow-mo so you can see if you are safe or not. It is really cool to see! Also, with missed swings it shows an overhead view and lets you take a look at the swing reviewer.

I was dead set on picking up MLB 10 The Show until playing MLB 2K10 because I am really surprised (and happy) with the changes they made. I very much prefer hitting with the stick (especially this year because it works very well) and pitching with the stick, but the changes to the fielding may have put it over the top for me. I'm probably going to have to rent both and see which one I like more... Stupid sports games complicating my life!

Has anyone else played it yet? What do you think?

lol @ 3/4 months to make 2K9, the series has been horrible for yrs. anyway why do we PS3 owners have to wait next week for the demo?
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#3 andyboiii
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nice write up, i'll definitely check out the demo. I'm a big MLB The Show fan too but I always wanted to see the 2k baseball games improve. Sounds like they made a huge leap forward this year.
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yea i played the demo yesterday and didnt find anything to complain about except one thing. It seems like players dont have an urgency to turn a double play.
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yea i played the demo yesterday and didnt find anything to complain about except one thing. It seems like players dont have an urgency to turn a double play.NetYankEagle
what u mean?
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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]yea i played the demo yesterday and didnt find anything to complain about except one thing. It seems like players dont have an urgency to turn a double play.PSP107
what u mean?

cano took forever to throw the ball to jeter and jeter took forever to deliver it to 1st
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#7 nickdastick
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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]yea i played the demo yesterday and didnt find anything to complain about except one thing. It seems like players dont have an urgency to turn a double play.NetYankEagle
what u mean?

cano took forever to throw the ball to jeter and jeter took forever to deliver it to 1st

And that was a HUGE gripe of mine from last year. The double plays I have seen so far haven't had that problem but I have only seen maybe 4 so far.

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lol @ 3/4 months to make 2K9, the series has been horrible for yrs. anyway why do we PS3 owners have to wait next week for the demo?PSP107

2K baseball has been crap on the 360 for sure, but last year was the first year Visual Concepts made the game. Before that it was a different group so Visual Concepts had a lot less time to try and take a piece of crap game and make something good out of it. The demo really shows that they have put a lot of work and effort into this game and it's really looking good.

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Yeah, Ill try it out. Nothing better to play anyways.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"]lol @ 3/4 months to make 2K9, the series has been horrible for yrs. anyway why do we PS3 owners have to wait next week for the demo?nickdastick

2K baseball has been crap on the 360 for sure, but last year was the first year Visual Concepts made the game. Before that it was a different group so Visual Concepts had a lot less time to try and take a piece of crap game and make something good out of it. The demo really shows that they have put a lot of work and effort into this game and it's really looking good.

if the demo is that improved then Visual Concepts made a huge mistake by not having a demo up for PS3 this week.
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[QUOTE="nickdastick"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]lol @ 3/4 months to make 2K9, the series has been horrible for yrs. anyway why do we PS3 owners have to wait next week for the demo?PSP107

2K baseball has been crap on the 360 for sure, but last year was the first year Visual Concepts made the game. Before that it was a different group so Visual Concepts had a lot less time to try and take a piece of crap game and make something good out of it. The demo really shows that they have put a lot of work and effort into this game and it's really looking good.

if the demo is that improved then Visual Concepts made a huge mistake by not having a demo up for PS3 this week.

They did make a huge mistake because it really is a much better game. The only reason I am now torn is because I own a 360 as well so I could play it before MLB 10 The Show actually came out. Very dumb move because I think it will surprise a lot of people.

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[QUOTE="nickdastick"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]lol @ 3/4 months to make 2K9, the series has been horrible for yrs. anyway why do we PS3 owners have to wait next week for the demo?PSP107

2K baseball has been crap on the 360 for sure, but last year was the first year Visual Concepts made the game. Before that it was a different group so Visual Concepts had a lot less time to try and take a piece of crap game and make something good out of it. The demo really shows that they have put a lot of work and effort into this game and it's really looking good.

if the demo is that improved then Visual Concepts made a huge mistake by not having a demo up for PS3 this week.

its not VC decision to release the demo its Sonys decision. The demo was sent out to both companies Microsoft just released it earlier for possibly obvious reasons
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This game is still nowhere close to as good as The Show. Period. All they did this year was improve the game by removing all the craptastic bugs last years had......atleast so it seems in the demo. It's easy to see how 2K10 can look so good to some people because 2K9 was so bad....but regardless, this game is still far behind The Show in terms of graphics, animations, stadiums, and pure realism.

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#15 PSP107
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@ Uptown that could be true but we had to wait awhile for the NBA 2K10 demo
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This game is still nowhere close to as good as The Show. Period. All they did this year was improve the game by removing all the craptastic bugs last years had......atleast so it seems in the demo. It's easy to see how 2K10 can look so good to some people because 2K9 was so bad....but regardless, this game is still far behind The Show in terms of graphics, animations, stadiums, and pure realism.

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i played a full season of 09 the show and i know that even the show lacked animations and pure realism
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This game is still nowhere close to as good as The Show. Period. All they did this year was improve the game by removing all the craptastic bugs last years had......atleast so it seems in the demo. It's easy to see how 2K10 can look so good to some people because 2K9 was so bad....but regardless, this game is still far behind The Show in terms of graphics, animations, stadiums, and pure realism.

Uptown

The thing is though, that for 360 owners, it's a way big deal because they have had to put up with crap baseball games for the last few years and finally it looks like 2K is going to put out a solid baseball game. I will agree that the graphics and animations on The Show are still better, but the overall gameplay is getting up there and personally, I like the hitting and pitching much better in 2K than The Show.

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I haven't played it yet, but I haven't been happy with a MLB 2K game since 2K7. The Show has consistently improved and well I just really enjoy the experience. I won't be buying a baseball game this year (bought The Show last March), but if I did -- I doubt that the 2K game could sway me to their side. However, I am glad to hear that it is improving :)
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[QUOTE="Uptown"]

This game is still nowhere close to as good as The Show. Period. All they did this year was improve the game by removing all the craptastic bugs last years had......atleast so it seems in the demo. It's easy to see how 2K10 can look so good to some people because 2K9 was so bad....but regardless, this game is still far behind The Show in terms of graphics, animations, stadiums, and pure realism.

NetYankEagle

i played a full season of 09 the show and i know that even the show lacked animations and pure realism

clearly I mean in comparison to 2K10/2K9.....not real life lol

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[QUOTE="Uptown"]

This game is still nowhere close to as good as The Show. Period. All they did this year was improve the game by removing all the craptastic bugs last years had......atleast so it seems in the demo. It's easy to see how 2K10 can look so good to some people because 2K9 was so bad....but regardless, this game is still far behind The Show in terms of graphics, animations, stadiums, and pure realism.

nickdastick

The thing is though, that for 360 owners, it's a way big deal because they have had to put up with crap baseball games for the last few years and finally it looks like 2K is going to put out a solid baseball game. I will agree that the graphics and animations on The Show are still better, but the overall gameplay is getting up there and personally, I like the hitting and pitching much better in 2K than The Show.

the pitching gestures are cool in 2K, but the swing stick is plain awful....it leaves no room for error and you cant check swing! Ill take face button hitting over swing stick any day...especially for online play. A good pitcher can dominate a swing stick hitter.....but a pitcher has to be a bit more on his game and really mix it up to consistantly overpower someone hitting with face buttons as theres just less delay for the hitter and more time to react, making the pitcher vs batter duel much tighter IMO.

Also....I think most hardcore baseball fans BY NOW.....should have bought a PS3 for The Show.

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dont judge a game by the demo. last years demo was ok not as polished as this years but last years demos did not show any of the flaws that made last years game really suck. and the whole VC only had 9 monthes to make the game is bs. Sports games are recycled every year and not much good is added. Not unless they really care about their product like mlb the show. imma wait to buy this game because of last year. i want it to be good but im not holding my breath.
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dont judge a game by the demo. last years demo was ok not as polished as this years but last years demos did not show any of the flaws that made last years game really suck. and the whole VC only had 9 monthes to make the game is bs. Sports games are recycled every year and not much good is added. Not unless they really care about their product like mlb the show. imma wait to buy this game because of last year. i want it to be good but im not holding my breath.xbox360isgr8t

I'm not saying the 9 month cycle was the only reason it had issues, but it did affect the game a decent amount. Which is obvious when you see all the bugs the game had. If they had 3 more months to iron those out 2K9 wouldn't have been so horrible. And I do agree that you can't judge a game just on the demo, but it at least shows a decent amount of improvement in the gameplay.

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dont judge a game by the demo. last years demo was ok not as polished as this years but last years demos did not show any of the flaws that made last years game really suck. and the whole VC only had 9 monthes to make the game is bs. Sports games are recycled every year and not much good is added. Not unless they really care about their product like mlb the show. imma wait to buy this game because of last year. i want it to be good but im not holding my breath.xbox360isgr8t
I think it's ignorant to think that any team of devs don't "care" about their product save for the few that you think are actually good games. Everyone wants their game to do well. Of course that doesn't always translate into a "good" game. And I think it's perfectly fine to draw some early conclusions on a game based on the demo. That's the purpose of a demo. They wouldn't release one otherwise. They won't release a demo with the suffix "Don't pay attention to this. This isn't how the real game will be." They're trying to show you the improvements over last year and according to the TC who actually played the demo and compared it to last game, they have improved it. I'll tell you this. I had 2K8, but skipped over last year's game because of its shortcommings. But I'll definately give the demo a shot and if I enjoy it, consider picking up this year's model. And BTW, I have played The Show and it is a much better game than the 2K series. At least what I've played. But I only own a 360 and I'm not about to pick up a PS3 just for that.
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The biggest problem with the demo is that it's only 3 innings with nothing able to be changed.

Last year's product was a gigantic failure in every single way, I got it because I wanted to play a blooper version of baseball and boy did that deliver lol All the problems made you crack up

Now remember a little bit from last year. They took over someone else's game and "upgraded" it for 2009. They only released one patch for the problems and then ignored everyone with all the other problems in the game, they were done.

This year is more of their own work and it's working better, maybe? We have no idea because the demo is so restricted that we don't know if these three innings is all that will work well or that the game will run well no matter what settings and situations you experience.

I understand that three innings and out are normal for a game like this but after the abomination they released last year they had to go above and beyond this year

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one thing MLB 2K does not fail at is commentary

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#26 nickdastick
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one thing MLB 2K does not fail at is commentary

NetYankEagle

Agreed. And this year they have Kruky! He is awesome and from the clips I heard with him in it, it looks like he is a good fit.

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one thing MLB 2K does not fail at is commentary

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Soak this in.....

You are 100% correct!

:P

The problem being is what game they're covering. YOu wont hear a back and forth like this......

"That ball is traveling and Granderson and Gardner are closing fast"

"OH! There's something you don't see every day, they collided and Granderson's arms are actually THROUGH Garder"

"The ball rolls through the wall yet the ground rule double has not been called"

"There goes A-Rod through the wall to get the ball without making a hole in it at all"

"He's gotta spend more time in ther gym in the offseason and less time running with Madonna"

"well said Kruk"

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[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]

one thing MLB 2K does not fail at is commentary

Jaysonguy

Soak this in.....

You are 100% correct!

:P

The problem being is what game they're covering. YOu wont hear a back and forth like this......

"That ball is traveling and Granderson and Gardner are closing fast"

"OH! There's something you don't see every day, they collided and Granderson's arms are actually THROUGH Garder"

"The ball rolls through the wall yet the ground rule double has not been called"

"There goes A-Rod through the wall to get the ball without making a hole in it at all"

"He's gotta spend more time in ther gym in the offseason and less time running with Madonna"

"well said Kruk"

they do have good commentary. However kruky sounds off in the game from what I heard but hopefully it will be better and steve philips really needs to be removed and hopefully next year it will be fixed.
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I've never accepted the 2k series and I will be forever waiting for EA's MVP series to make it's comeback
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I've never accepted the 2k series and I will be forever waiting for EA's MVP series to make it's comebackCleanPlayer

Get over it, The Show is already better than MVP...has been since 08.

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The biggest problem with the demo is that it's only 3 innings with nothing able to be changed.

Last year's product was a gigantic failure in every single way, I got it because I wanted to play a blooper version of baseball and boy did that deliver lol All the problems made you crack up

Now remember a little bit from last year. They took over someone else's game and "upgraded" it for 2009. They only released one patch for the problems and then ignored everyone with all the other problems in the game, they were done.

This year is more of their own work and it's working better, maybe? We have no idea because the demo is so restricted that we don't know if these three innings is all that will work well or that the game will run well no matter what settings and situations you experience.

I understand that three innings and out are normal for a game like this but after the abomination they released last year they had to go above and beyond this year

Jaysonguy

How many times have you played it though Jaysonguy? The reason being that if you play the demo enough you get a good feel for it. It's not like later in the game it changes or anything. I will say it would have been nice if they would have at least let you do lineup changes though. I hate getting stuck with Bastardo against Chamberlain especially since Bastardo has three pitches and they are all mediocre at best! But yeah, I've played the crap out of the demo and they seem to have fixed the majority of the bugs/kinks that were in the last game. 360 only gamers should be happy since it looks like they will finally have a solid baseball game.