Nba IS Being Ruled by Foreigners

Because only the pro- foreigners come to USA to play NBA. Like Parker, Yao, etc. Foreigners still are a minority in NBA.

International players brought excessive flopping as a means to be rewarded to the NBA.

Some of them have ruined the quality of the game.

Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.Boocian

Yes the NBAis changing, and I think it is good for the league. For many years International tallent was being overlooked as great talent in the European Leagues was being past up for North American players. Now that is all changing ever since really the olympics, as the international tallent has been showcased to the world, and people are taking notice.

Although I do not agree with the other point you made about hockey and mainly the Canadian aspect. Im sure you do not follow like I may so I thought I would correct you. Canada is still by far the top hockey producing tallent in the league, with many top draft eligable players coming through Canada. A few points to back it up are the 3 consecutive World Jr Championchips going undefeated mind you and in a convincing fashion. Also the Men's team winning the World Cup this year, and the women also winning. And on the Stanley Cup Champions Anahiem 18 players I believe were from Canada and only 3 Europeans, 1 being a backup goalie. (maybe an American in their somewhere) I just bascially wanted to correct you on your incorrect comparison between the NHL and NBA in terms of "European impact" thats all.

*yawn* spurs are boring and i know im not the only person to know this since this years finals was rated the lowest.NetYankEagle

International players brought excessive flopping as a means to be rewarded to the NBA.

Some of them have ruined the quality of the game.

sykonfc

Dude, flopping's been a part of the NBA way before the international players came.

You forgot about the raptors, the only international teamwhere 3/5ths of the starers are either European or playedinternationaly (Bargnani, Garbajosa, Parker), plus a number of other international players (Calderon, Slokar, Sow, Nesterovic) plus the assistant GM (and probable successor to Colangelo) is Italian.PBSnipes

Well the raptors are garbage and that's why they weren't mentioned.

International players brought excessive flopping as a means to be rewarded to the NBA.

Some of them have ruined the quality of the game.

sykonfc

Players have been flopping since the 60's. I can't believe how many people seem to think ginobili or some other foreign player invented it.

smart European basketball, yet there being coached by Americans, and as for tony parker, a lot of his skills was learned by playing basketball in America...

Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.Boocian

TO UT_Wrestler: Oh thats right I forgot, the raps do suck.Thats why they went from being a lottery pick team to division champ in one season, plus they had the coach of the year and executive of the year and they finished 3rd in the east. Real s***ty team there. :roll:

Nowitzki MVP, Nash two times mvp, Nba Champions Spurs Triangle Tim Duncan ( Yes hes not native american ) , Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker :) Spurs are the one and ONLY team in Nba playing Smart European Basketball, they dont rush, they play good defense , they dont over force in offense but manage to make easy points :) And what are typical american style is? One Superstar and some midgets ( in terms of skill) running around giving the ball to the Superstar ( Lebron, Kobe,Tracy Mc, Garnett) Tell me how isnt it silly having only one power and forming some kind of team around them? Fele23

that's why they hate 'em...

[QUOTE="Boocian"]Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.PBSnipes

Serbia (Formerly Yugoslavia) actually has more World Basketball Championship titles than the U.S. Most of these came against loaded U.S teams with the likes of Shaq, Kobe, and other star players on them.

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[QUOTE="Boocian"]Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.UssjTrunks

Serbia (Formerly Yugoslavia) actually has more World Basketball Championship titles than the U.S. Most of these came against loaded U.S teams with the likes of Shaq, Kobe, and other star players on them.

Nowitzki MVP, Nash two times mvp, Nba Champions Spurs Triangle Tim Duncan ( Yes hes not native american ) , Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker :) Spurs are the one and ONLY team in Nba playing Smart European Basketball, they dont rush, they play good defense , they dont over force in offense but manage to make easy points :) And what are typical american style is? One Superstar and some midgets ( in terms of skill) running around giving the ball to the Superstar ( Lebron, Kobe,Tracy Mc, Garnett) Tell me how isnt it silly having only one power and forming some kind of team around them? Fele23

I wouldn't be so quick to say the Spurs play Euroball. They play hard-nosed, detail-oriented,physical ball, which is old-school American style. Just b/c they play as a team doesn't all of a sudden make them European. Pops is an X and O guy, and expects his team to follow it to perfection. In fact, the only succesful head coach I can think of that got his start oversees is Mike Dantoni, and we all know how the Suns play.

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[QUOTE="Boocian"]Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.UssjTrunks

Serbia (Formerly Yugoslavia) actually has more World Basketball Championship titles than the U.S. Most of these came against loaded U.S teams with the likes of Shaq, Kobe, and other star players on them.

Your statement is misleading. First of all, we never let NBA players playin the World Championshipsuntil 1994, and that team crushed the competition. You may know them better as Dream Team 2. 1998 also did not have NBA players, mostly college and CBA players. The only one I consider a disappointment is 2006, with our revamped strategy, but we still went undefeated until Greece in the Semis, and they shot lights-out that game to a home crowd. We went on to beat Argentina that year, who was the Olympic champion.

You are probably right about Serbia winning more FIBA Championships, but the Olympics is always the main tournament anyways.No country can say they have medaled in basketball every single Olympics and won 12 out of 15 Golds...except the U.S.

You can't dismiss Yugoslavia's(and later Croatia and Serbia)succes in the World Championship,Yugoslavia(both Serbia and Croatia)has been a huge basketball power in the world for a very long time, just look at the amount of players they've had and still have in the NBA.

The fact is,Team USA basketball has been on the decline since '96, and since the International level has been growing stronger and stronger, even if Team USA would send the best players they have, it's not a guarrantee they will win, that's what's been proven in '06, and don't give me that, Oh but the Olympics are more important anyway, Jordan said it best in '92:"If you're supperior, you're gonna have to show it on the court." which is something Team USA hasn't done on the World Championship Court since '94 and on the Olympic Court since '00.

[QUOTE="Fele23"]Nowitzki MVP, Nash two times mvp, Nba Champions Spurs Triangle Tim Duncan ( Yes hes not native american ) , Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker :) Spurs are the one and ONLY team in Nba playing Smart European Basketball, they dont rush, they play good defense , they dont over force in offense but manage to make easy points :) And what are typical american style is? One Superstar and some midgets ( in terms of skill) running around giving the ball to the Superstar ( Lebron, Kobe,Tracy Mc, Garnett) Tell me how isnt it silly having only one power and forming some kind of team around them? d12malu

I wouldn't be so quick to say the Spurs play Euroball. They play hard-nosed, detail-oriented,physical ball, which is old-school American style. Just b/c they play as a team doesn't all of a sudden make them European. Pops is an X and O guy, and expects his team to follow it to perfection. In fact, the only succesful head coach I can think of that got his start oversees is Mike Dantoni, and we all know how the Suns play.

Very good post well said.

^^^ i disagree, if we sent out the best we would have a much better shot at being dominate against the rest of the world, lately in any world basketball event we've been sending off young and college players, nba's best players no longer care about going over seas and bringing back the gold, its almost like we've been sending off 3rd string superstarsBeanTownBrown86

The same could be said about many of the international teams. International stars have declined the oppertunity to play for their respective national clubs in the past as well.

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[QUOTE="Boocian"]Basketball is growing, it is following hockey's footsteps. Canada use to be too good for the other countries at hockey now the Europeans teams are better. USA use to be too good now the other countries are catching up. Like hockey maybe we can see a North America vs World All-Star game, that would be pretty sweet.PBSnipes

Serbia (Formerly Yugoslavia) actually has more World Basketball Championship titles than the U.S. Most of these came against loaded U.S teams with the likes of Shaq, Kobe, and other star players on them.

you also have to point out the difference in rules from fiba and nba, the fact that american players tend to play one on one basketball (which is why they always loose...individuals can't win team games) which hurts cuz the usa teams lacked a lot of shooters when the one on one gets cold.

European basketball > American basketbal, in terms of quality at least. American basketball may be more entertaining to watch sometimes but it isn't as effective at winning games.UssjTrunks

Bullcraaaaap. The only reason we didn't fly through the last Olympics is because our team was riddled with injuries. We ALWAYS dominate basketball, nationally. We are always the team to beat.

Sure the international players are doing good, they are far from ruling it though. Best individual player, Kobe. Best Center Shaq to Greg Oden(My opinion, Oden will be dominating within 2 years). Nash, Nowitzki and the plethora of other top level international starts are only helping to increase the games appeal world wide. At the same time without a team with a charismatic(lets face it euros in general have very little charisma, they just get the job done) American star that wins, the NBA will continue to suffer ratings wise. Just to point out, I absolutely love the way basketball is played now, its more of a team sport now than a one on one affair every time down the court. I appreciate the fundamentals the international players bring, when US players get out of university the best thing going for them is their athleticism and that doesn't cut it anymore. Not to say that I don't enjoy the high flying antics put on by some of the players, I would just rather watch a jump shot from 18 feet that was set up by 3 or 4 passes.

If the American squad practiced as much as the international teams, the US without a doubt would dominate. The top euro players in the NBA go home to a team that is already gelling, and its a lot easier to incorporate a single player than throw together 14 of the best in the world and expect them to do exceptionally well against ever improving teams. The 3 year plan won't help much either, the season is so much longer than anything the international teams have to go through, so by the time summer hits, the players are worn down and beaten.