Next-Gen Hopes for football gaming

I have been severly disappointed by this gen's football...I use to love the competition from EA and 2k back in the PS2 era. Since then EA hasn't delivered the brand of football I use to enjoy and all of it's holes and exploits where shown when online competition became relevant. I stuck with All Pro Football 2k8 since 2007 and appreciated their approach to football. It was almost as if you were a gm/coach getting talent and crafting a system offensively and defensively. The gameplay was smoother and gave me the chess match approach real student of the games feel. Madden was good this gen but it's built for the casual fan who doesn't know too much about football, there's too many exploits someone could abuse and not enough checks and balances in the gm to make it sim IMO. However with the PS4 I have a slim glimmer of hope that there can be NFL games that are good and companies willing to take a chance on crafting a different football experience as All Pro did for me.

Before the rise of this Gen we had games like NFL Fever, 2k, Madden and others. Gms this Gen like All Pro and backbreaker did little to entice except for having excellent gameplay and animations. I feel like football gaming is on a crossroads...does a football game really need the NFL banner if it's well done and plays well and allows customization options (Stadiums, Logos, Uniforms, Playbooks, Play Structures, etc)? I'm just curious if this can happen next gen, I know there is a slim chance of such things happening given production cost and targeting market & marks but a man can dream.

does a football game really need the NFL bannerEncognito_Mr_BC

Cheesy animations totally kill the games for me.  They need to fix the animations and the jerky motions.

My biggest complaints: suction cup tackles/blocks and horrid blocking AI. I'm tired of my RB not being able to hit the hole with any authority because the MLB teleports across to make the tackle, when in real life the RB would have blown past him. And it's impossible to run tosses/power/counters in Maddem because the pulling lineman almost never blocks the correct man.

Fix the physics engine. Backbreaker's engine was too powerful, running anywhere inside the tackles resulted in your RB tripping on the OL's feet or hitting one of their backs and falling flat on his ass. Madden's new physics engine is just way too wacky, really needs some refining.

I also want an Arena Football/Canadian football game. The AFL game on the Xbox is one of my favorites.

 

I also want an Arena Football/Canadian football game. The AFL game on the Xbox is one of my favorites.

monkeytoes61

And who would buy that? Unless you are talking like an arcade xbox live agme.

Would be cool if Madden bought the license for CFL, and make it to where you can play with those teams. I remember they used to have that with the Europe teams in the old Maddens. 

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I also want an Arena Football/Canadian football game. The AFL game on the Xbox is one of my favorites.

Put_in_Kitna

And who would buy that? Unless you are talking like an arcade xbox live agme.

Would be cool if Madden bought the license for CFL, and make it to where you can play with those teams. I remember they used to have that with the Europe teams in the old Maddens. 

I like that curt warner sig M.Toes, he was a clean back.Encognito_Mr_BC

Im afraid I have to agree. And its not just Football. Sport games this gen sucked.

PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14

Im afraid I have to agree. And its not just Football. Sport games this gen sucked.

PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14

PSP107

PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14PSP107

Im afraid I have to agree. And its not just Football. Sport games this gen sucked.

PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14

Im afraid I have to agree. And its not just Football. Sport games this gen sucked.

PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14

I mean at the end of the day what are you really expecting to get out of sports games? I mean honestly how much far can they really go in making it a simulation. Its football. They can change the views possibly? Upgrade the graphics, but I mean at the end of the day what do people expect? What they should do is bring back Mutant League sports, those were the best.

For Madden, they really need to improve the AI for both players and opposing playcalling. It's a joke that an opposing team will call run plays when they're losing by 14 points in the fourth quarter, or routinely sell out on a blitz when I have 5 wide and it's clearly a pass that I can check-down on. The new physics engine in '13 is great, by far the best improvement to the game they've made in a while, but more has to be done to make the flow of the game itself more realistic.

What they should do is bring back Mutant League sports, those were the best.xscrapzx

I mean at the end of the day what are you really expecting to get out of sports games? I mean honestly how much far can they really go in making it a simulation. Its football. They can change the views possibly? Upgrade the graphics, but I mean at the end of the day what do people expect? What they should do is bring back Mutant League sports, those were the best.

xscrapzx

Im just hoping we finally get another nfl game from 2k sports

Really, if Madden cleared up the year one quirkiness of the Infinity engine, and improved AI run/pass blocking, I would be content.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="PSP107"]PS4 will be day 1 if Madden 14 is superb. Or NBA 2K14JML897

Anyway, since it hasn't been brought up, this year's Madden will be called Madden NFL 25 since it's the 25th anniversary. There could be a legend on the cover this year. Not sure if I want it, however, since last year's was disappointing.The-Apostle

Anyway, since it hasn't been brought up, this year's Madden will be called Madden NFL 25 since it's the 25th anniversary. There could be a legend on the cover this year. Not sure if I want it, however, since last year's was disappointing.The-Apostle

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Anyway, since it hasn't been brought up, this year's Madden will be called Madden NFL 25 since it's the 25th anniversary. There could be a legend on the cover this year. Not sure if I want it, however, since last year's was disappointing.monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Anyway, since it hasn't been brought up, this year's Madden will be called Madden NFL 25 since it's the 25th anniversary. There could be a legend on the cover this year. Not sure if I want it, however, since last year's was disappointing.The-Apostle

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] Stop generalizing. Madden 13 was disappointing for you. To everyone else, it's the biggest step Madden has taken in the right direction in years.PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I wouldn't hate it so much if certain features weren't taken out. It was as bad as the first Smackdown! game was on PS2.The-Apostle

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="PSP107"] Well atleast Smackdown Just Bring It had solid gameplay. But the game did felt like more a demo.PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Yeah, but I felt a lot was missing. Like in Madden NFL 13. However, THQ at least had an excuse (new system). EA Sports didn't have one.The-Apostle