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#1 mrgab
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

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#2 Witchking111111
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Great. Wasn't just his fault for the season they had. Their defense wasn't as good and their offense, except for Hester, was stagnant.

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#3 guitarman89
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After resigning the best quarterback in the league, the Bears are obviously now a lock to reach the Super Bowl and most likely win it.
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#4 manningbowl135
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If you're giving your young starting quarterback a one year deal, he'll be on a pretty short leash.
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#5 69cubbies
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Wonder if the bears will still pursue McNabb?
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#6 guitarman89
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Wonder if the bears will still pursue McNabb?69cubbies

I was wondering the exact same thing. I think they still should, and Rex is more suited to play a backup position.

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[QUOTE="69cubbies"]Wonder if the bears will still pursue McNabb?guitarman89

I was wondering the exact same thing. I think they still should, and Rex is more suited to play a backup position.

I don't think they will. They wouldn't pay Rex $3 million if he wasn't going to be a starter.

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#8 xbox360isgr8t
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good move.

make grossman starter (look at eli and rex. similiar stats in there careers except grossman has been hurt. now eli shut his critics up and won a super bowl. i think rex can do the same)

have orton be backup

cut griese

and draft someone like flacco if he is there in second round.

now they need to get some good picks at line, hope mike brown will be healthy, resign berrian. and talk briggs into staying.

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Hey, if Eli can win a title, so can the Cannon.
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#10 TheSystemLord1
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Hey, if Eli can win a title, so can the Cannon.JML897

I think being voted Super Bowl MVP relieves Eli of any negativity he once had. That guy carried his team all through the playoffs. He finally decided to grow up, do his homework, and play like a Manning rather than being the red-headed stepchild of the family. It paid off.

I don't think Grossman has the same potential.

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#11 duxup
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You know finding a good QB is exceptionally hard and random, but resigning Grossman isn't going to help... anything.
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#13 mrgab
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[QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

usaaaaaa

Ignorance.

Blindness.

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#14 Gretzky_99rockz
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i think the bears would perfer to sign McNabb, but i think they're making this signing as a back-up plan in case they can't get him.
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[QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

mrgab

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

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[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

comstrikeiscool

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

"Led" probably isn't the word most people would use.

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He made it to a Superbowl didn't he? He has potential. Here in Seattle, we were shrugging of Matt Hasselbeck, but look now. He is one of the top QB's in the league.
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#18 Ngamer05
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

manningbowl135

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

"Led" probably isn't the word most people would use.

More like "tagged along." :lol:

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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

manningbowl135

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

"Led" probably isn't the word most people would use.

He also was in the top 3 QB's putting up huge numbers the first half of the season...but w/e.

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#20 Killfox
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The bears sucked because

1. The o-line looked terrible and old

2. Benson didnt start carrying the ball well until late and then he got hurt. So you were pretty much stuck with 3rd and long situations.

3. Berrian dropped many key passes and a few that could have even been touchdowns.

4. The defense was well not even present until the end of the year and had nothing to lose. In the beggining they looked like they had butter fingers and couldnt tackle worth crap.

5. Mike brown a key part to there defense and got hurt.

6. This is the key. Ron turner is the worst Offensive coordinator I have ever seen. I could call better plays. Hes famous for the its 3rd and 2 yards to go. And he wants to go deep. Or its 3rd and 10 and he wants them to throw a 3 yard pass. Plus for how long they have been working with rex grossman they should already have a decent gameplan for him and know what plays hes good at making and not good at making.

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#21 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

comstrikeiscool

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

"Led" probably isn't the word most people would use.

He also was in the top 3 QB's putting up huge numbers the first half of the season...but w/e.

You forgot to mention where he was in the 2nd half and the playoffs. You know, when it really counts...but w/e.

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#22 duxup
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]

Considering he's the one who led them to the Super Bowl...

manningbowl135

"Led" probably isn't the word most people would use.

Indeed. He was "along for the ride" as much as any QB ever has been on that trip to the Super Bowl.

The defense led them to the SB, Rex just happened to be around at the time.

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#23 TheDarkDisciple
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it's not a bad idea really. Hopefully Grossman sees this as his last chance and he will make the most of it. But then there's always a chance (a good one) that he will screw it up, so i would like for them to go after Mcnabb or draft a good QB.
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#24 msjr78
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They had to make this move. It's sad, but of all the free agent QBs out there, Grossman was the best one out there. Plus he already knows the system. He knows the personnel. And it's an incentive laden contract. A couple $million worth of incentives. For the money they spent, they couldn't have made a better deal with anyone else, let alone a perspective starter. The problem with the Bears this past season was the Offensive line. They gave him no time to make any decisions. They created no holes for the running game to open up. They were old and injured. The Bears need to use this draft to get some fresh bodies on that line. Because with time, any NFL QB can complete passes. Look at the success of the Patriots. Brady had an insane amount of time to pick and choose his spots. He had the highest percentage of passes made from the pocket and barely any sacks. When the line failed him in the Super Bowl, they lost. Grossman will battle it out with Griese, Orton and maybe a rookie that they draft. But there really is no other realistic move at QB that they could make.
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#25 usaaaaaa
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[QUOTE="usaaaaaa"][QUOTE="mrgab"]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3260592

"Rex Grossman has reached a one-year deal to remain as the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears."

Well that all but eliminates the Bears from next seasons playoffs. :P

mrgab

Ignorance.

Blindness.

Ironny at its best.

And LOL at my comment getting deleted because of "Trolling"

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Oh my goodness, most of you don't know squat about Grossman or the Bears.

Apparently I thought everyone outside of Chicago fans knew that you need an O-LINE to do anything with the ball. The O-Line had a fluke season in 2006 and in 2007 it showed how horrible and aged it was. What happened when the Patriots' O-Line collapsed in the Super Bowl? Oh yeah, THEY LOST. And Tom Brady wasn't able to put up spectacular numbers either with less than 3 seconds to react. If you cannot protect against a pass rush, then you won't be able to do much.

And I also believe Grossman is a changed man. In 2007 after being benched three games into the season and then given the starting job again, he posted up one 100+ QB rating game, two 80 QB rating games, and only one below 50, and that was when he was injured. He's been humble about his situation and never complained when most crybaby quarterbacks would complain about so and so. He's also been working out at Halas Hall. So, I'll give him one more chance, and you should too.

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#27 Killfox
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Oh my goodness, most of you don't know squat about Grossman or the Bears.

Apparently I thought everyone outside of Chicago fans knew that you need an O-LINE to do anything with the ball. The O-Line had a fluke season in 2006 and in 2007 it showed how horrible and aged it was. What happened when the Patriots' O-Line collapsed in the Super Bowl? Oh yeah, THEY LOST. And Tom Brady wasn't able to put up spectacular numbers either with less than 3 seconds to react. If you cannot protect against a pass rush, then you won't be able to do much.

And I also believe Grossman is a changed man. In 2007 after being benched three games into the season and then given the starting job again, he posted up one 100+ QB rating game, two 80 QB rating games, and only one below 50, and that was when he was injured. He's been humble about his situation and never complained when most crybaby quarterbacks would complain about so and so. He's also been working out at Halas Hall. So, I'll give him one more chance, and you should too.

Wii60always

I said a lot of what you said. How are you supposed to have a good air attack if your ground attack cant get you into third in short situations??? It almost always comes back to the O-line. Since our O-line sucked we could really get a decent runnig game in. So they knew when we were throwing most of the time. So that doesnt help.

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#28 Wii60always
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[QUOTE="Wii60always"]

Oh my goodness, most of you don't know squat about Grossman or the Bears.

Apparently I thought everyone outside of Chicago fans knew that you need an O-LINE to do anything with the ball. The O-Line had a fluke season in 2006 and in 2007 it showed how horrible and aged it was. What happened when the Patriots' O-Line collapsed in the Super Bowl? Oh yeah, THEY LOST. And Tom Brady wasn't able to put up spectacular numbers either with less than 3 seconds to react. If you cannot protect against a pass rush, then you won't be able to do much.

And I also believe Grossman is a changed man. In 2007 after being benched three games into the season and then given the starting job again, he posted up one 100+ QB rating game, two 80 QB rating games, and only one below 50, and that was when he was injured. He's been humble about his situation and never complained when most crybaby quarterbacks would complain about so and so. He's also been working out at Halas Hall. So, I'll give him one more chance, and you should too.

Killfox

I said a lot of what you said. How are you supposed to have a good air attack if your ground attack cant get you into third in short situations??? It almost always comes back to the O-line. Since our O-line sucked we could really get a decent runnig game in. So they knew when we were throwing most of the time. So that doesnt help.

Basically. You have a good point about Ron Turner and his stupidity. He's proven that we can't win with him. See: Super Bowl XLI.

But yeah, the reasons why we sucked last year:

1) Horrible O-Line

2) Ron Turner

3) Unstability from the QB position

4) Lack of running game

5) Injuries to defense

6) Inconsistency

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#29 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Wii60always"]

Oh my goodness, most of you don't know squat about Grossman or the Bears.

Apparently I thought everyone outside of Chicago fans knew that you need an O-LINE to do anything with the ball. The O-Line had a fluke season in 2006 and in 2007 it showed how horrible and aged it was. What happened when the Patriots' O-Line collapsed in the Super Bowl? Oh yeah, THEY LOST. And Tom Brady wasn't able to put up spectacular numbers either with less than 3 seconds to react. If you cannot protect against a pass rush, then you won't be able to do much.

And I also believe Grossman is a changed man. In 2007 after being benched three games into the season and then given the starting job again, he posted up one 100+ QB rating game, two 80 QB rating games, and only one below 50, and that was when he was injured. He's been humble about his situation and never complained when most crybaby quarterbacks would complain about so and so. He's also been working out at Halas Hall. So, I'll give him one more chance, and you should too.

Wii60always

I said a lot of what you said. How are you supposed to have a good air attack if your ground attack cant get you into third in short situations??? It almost always comes back to the O-line. Since our O-line sucked we could really get a decent runnig game in. So they knew when we were throwing most of the time. So that doesnt help.

Basically. You have a good point about Ron Turner and his stupidity. He's proven that we can't win with him. See: Super Bowl XLI.

But yeah, the reasons why we sucked last year:

1) Horrible O-Line

2) Ron Turner

3) Unstability from the QB position

4) Lack of running game

5) Injuries to defense

6) Inconsistency

I couldnt agree more with your superbowl comment. He called some of the dumbest plays I have ever seen in a superbowl game. The funny thing was that those were the same mistakes he made in both the 2006 and 2007 seasons. I honestly like the idea that berrian might not be coming back. Having Hester and bradley on WR isnt such a bad thing. Bradley has shown he can make plays and did hester. The thing they need to do is make sure that hester knows the play book. Too many times did I see other WR telling him were to go.

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#30 JML897
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For those of you saying this is a dumb move...tell me, what else should the Bears do? It's easy to say they have to go get a better QB, but there really isn't anyone out there except for McNabb (maybe)...but if the Bears were to go after McNabb, they'd have to give up a big piece of their team. And let's say the Bears do go after McNabb; you can do much, much worse than having Rex Grossman as a backup. Rex Grossman's career QB Rating is 70.9. The guy who just won the Super Bowl? His is 73.4, and he has played in more games. Sure, the Bears can draft a QB...but especially with Jerry Angelo as GM, that QB could be a bust and the Bears would need someone like Grossman around as an insurance policy at least.

The Bears need more help in these positions:
Offensive Tackle
Offensive Guard
Defensive Tackle
Free Safety
Strong Safety
Running Back
Wide Receiver

They have so many holes; QB is definitely not their biggest problem.

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My question is what the hell happened? He came out of the gates in 2006 absolutely on fire. He was tearing up teams like there was no tomorrow and no one was considering him a bust anymore. Then.... kerplunk! He just randomly started doing horrible again and he's been that way ever since... I don't understand it.
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#32 duxup
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My question is what the hell happened? He came out of the gates in 2006 absolutely on fire. He was tearing up teams like there was no tomorrow and no one was considering him a bust anymore. Then.... kerplunk! He just randomly started doing horrible again and he's been that way ever since... I don't understand it.crazy4life54

Well they had agood O line and their defense was insanely good. When you have an advantage in time of possession and your defense gives you the ball on the opposing 20 or even better seals the deal with a TD you can look pretty good just by not making many mistakes.

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#33 Julian7766
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I never really liked grossman. Hes not much of a qb really. Overthrows alot and the o line is old. 2 of there recievers are down and.Well...Hester cant catch for beans really but his returns are legendary

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to fix the bears go after Micheal Turner trade for chad johnson make Briggs happy pay him and if the falcons release Mike Vick sign him the bears been a juggernut again o yeah get a FS isn't injury prone
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#35 JML897
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to fix the bears go after Micheal Turner trade for chad johnson make Briggs and if the falcons release Mike Vick sign him the bears been a juggernut again o yeah get a FS isn't injury proneliljfreestyle

No.

Especially your Michael Vick suggestion. Just, no. The only idea of yours I kinda like is Michael Turner, but without an offensive line, almost anyone would suck back there. And I have no clue what "make Briggs" means.

Anyway, I still haven't seen a valid reason as to why the Bears shouldn't have resigned Grossman.

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#36 mrgab
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Saw yesterday on the ticker, that QB Kyle Orton was resigned too to a 1 year deal. Is Griese still under contract or a FA now?
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[QUOTE="liljfreestyle"]to fix the bears go after Micheal Turner trade for chad johnson make Briggs and if the falcons release Mike Vick sign him the bears been a juggernut again o yeah get a FS isn't injury proneJML897

No.

Especially your Michael Vick suggestion. Just, no. The only idea of yours I kinda like is Michael Turner, but without an offensive line, almost anyone would suck back there. And I have no clue what "make Briggs" means.

Anyway, I still haven't seen a valid reason as to why the Bears shouldn't have resigned Grossman.

Resigning him is one thing. Making him the starter is a completely different thing.

I still think they should draft Brohm or Henne in the draft. Or Josh Johnson. Go after McNabb and if he's too pricey, go after Pennington. Jets would probably be happy to get his contract off the books and give him up relatively easy.