Pudge Rodziguez Is A Yankee

Well I guess they're going for it

With Jorge out for the season they need another catcher and wow did they get one.

They got Pudge for Farnsworth

Knowledge is power!

wow dude thanks for the news i had no clue about this.

Big move seeing Posada out for the year cuza sergery.

i cant wait to see what else happens in these next few hours

wow dude thanks for the news i had no clue about this.

ChiSoxBombers

Yeah, I knew the Marlins were looking at Pudge and that the Yankees wanted someone to pair with Molina but I'm a little surprised they went for a first class catcher.

i dont understand why teams continue to help the yankees get better

I didnt see this coming at all. Well atleast he will add a bat better than what Molina was giving.sullivan352

i dont understand why teams continue to help the yankees get better

BeanTownBrown86

Im not sure they're purposely doing it, teams have their own needs. However, i question Detroit's motives on this one. How did this help you detroit? The only catcher on their roster now is Brandon inge. BRANDON INGE. Yeah, the guy who nearly broke his arm lifting a pillow a month ago. He may be one of the worst hitters in baseball today. I hope to christ d-town has a plan to combat this, cuz i sure as hell dont want inge as my everyday starter.

man the yankees are stacked but they still havent won a ws in awhile. there will be a day where they will look for talent in there minors and they wont find anything. money doesnt always mean championship. they still have to beat the red sox and the rays because i doubt they will get the wc.xbox360isgr8t

man the yankees are stacked but they still havent won a ws in awhile.there will be a day where they will look for talent in there minors and they wont find anything. money doesnt always mean championship. they still have to beat the red sox and the rays because i doubt they will get the wc.xbox360isgr8t

And what is your problem? The Cubs haven't won anything in nearly a century and you are talking crap about the Yanks? And wtf are you talking about our minor league system? This trade did nothing to our farm system, and we gave pretty much crap for Nady and Marte in Pittsburgh.

This move doesn't make any sense. Rodriguez is washed up as a hitter. He's now nothing more than a singles hitter who doesn't know how to work the count (he's never been able to do that). Plus, at this stage in his career, he's a definite downgrade defensively compared to Molina.Oleg_Huzwog

this is another very good deal for the Yankees

if we can get a reliable 4th starter we should have all the pieces needed to win some games in the playoffs

This move doesn't make any sense. Rodriguez is washed up as a hitter. He's now nothing more than a singles hitter who doesn't know how to work the count (he's never been able to do that). Plus, at this stage in his career, he's a definite downgrade defensively compared to Molina.Oleg_Huzwog

It does make sense because the Yankees need a big name guy at catcher since Posada's out and "Jose Molina" just doesnt cut it, not having to mention that he has two more accomplished brother catchers. Pudge is a star, and thats what the Yankees shoot for...the stars. (

This move doesn't make any sense. Rodriguez is washed up as a hitter. He's now nothing more than a singles hitter who doesn't know how to work the count (he's never been able to do that). Plus, at this stage in his career, he's a definite downgrade defensively compared to Molina.Oleg_Huzwog

I agree. I can deal with Molina's offense if he can provide great defense. So the yankees got worse defensively at catcher and the bullpen got worse. The offensive production from the catcher position might have gotten better, but I'm not sure if it was really needed. The bullpen was a strength which is something a lot of teams can't say. The bullpen is still okay, but now other guys are going to see an increased workload. The only way this trade to me becomes a good one is if Brian Bruney comes back to the bullpen and throws like he was at the beginning of the year. Right now he is pitching in AAA, so hopefully he comes back up soon.

They still haven't adressed starting pitching. You can't expect 45 year-olds like Petitte and Mussina to keep up their current numbers over the course of a long and strenuous season. Besides, it's not like anything any team in the AL does will make them better than the Angels.UssjTrunks

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]This move doesn't make any sense. Rodriguez is washed up as a hitter. He's now nothing more than a singles hitter who doesn't know how to work the count (he's never been able to do that). Plus, at this stage in his career, he's a definite downgrade defensively compared to Molina.rootcactus

I agree. I can deal with Molina's offense if he can provide great defense. So the yankees got worse defensively at catcher and the bullpen got worse. The offensive production from the catcher position might have gotten better, but I'm not sure if it was really needed. The bullpen was a strength which is something a lot of teams can't say. The bullpen is still okay, but now other guys are going to see an increased workload. The only way this trade to me becomes a good one is if Brian Bruney comes back to the bullpen and throws like he was at the beginning of the year. Right now he is pitching in AAA, so hopefully he comes back up soon.

Looks like the Tigers are addressing their bullpen help.

As for their catching, Inge will get his wish and play everyday.

[QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]They still haven't adressed starting pitching. You can't expect 45 year-olds like Petitte and Mussina to keep up their current numbers over the course of a long and strenuous season. Besides, it's not like anything any team in the AL does will make them better than the Angels.msjr78

I want AJ Burnett, but it's gonna be kinda tough to make that trade.

man the yankees are stacked but they still havent won a ws in awhile. there will be a day where they will look for talent in there minors and they wont find anything. money doesnt always mean championship. they still have to beat the red sox and the rays because i doubt they will get the wc.xbox360isgr8t

What are you talking about? They didn't give up any prospects here. Actually if you look, they haven't been giving up prospects for awhile. They actually have a ok farm system right now.

I think the Yankees are pretty well positioned right now. Their bats are always good. Giambi, Jeter, Matsui, Cano, Abreu and of course A-rod. That lineup won't start declining at least for the next few years. All of them are in their 30s but hitters in baseball have a lot more years left usually. Giambi is the only one who may start declining soon. Then in the rotation you have two ace quality pitchers in Wang and Chamberlain, both of whom are young. Pettite and Mussina are old, but for this year, when Hughes and Wang comes back, that's a great rotation. Phil Hughes was a no.1 prospect last year. He'll be fine. They have an A level pitcher in the minors. The Yankees are fine now and for the future.

[QUOTE="msjr78"][QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]They still haven't adressed starting pitching. You can't expect 45 year-olds like Petitte and Mussina to keep up their current numbers over the course of a long and strenuous season. Besides, it's not like anything any team in the AL does will make them better than the Angels.ThePostalWorker

I want AJ Burnett, but it's gonna be kinda tough to make that trade.

They still haven't adressed starting pitching. You can't expect 45 year-olds like Petitte and Mussina to keep up their current numbers over the course of a long and strenuous season. Besides, it's not like anything any team in the AL does will make them better than the Angels.UssjTrunks

That "long and strenous season" is more than 2/3 of the way over and they've held up just fine. Neither are power pitchers and at 37-38, they aren't even that old for non-power pitchers.

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]man the yankees are stacked but they still havent won a ws in awhile. there will be a day where they will look for talent in there minors and they wont find anything. money doesnt always mean championship. they still have to beat the red sox and the rays because i doubt they will get the wc.manningbowl135

What are you talking about? They didn't give up any prospects here. Actually if you look, they haven't been giving up prospects for awhile. They actually have a ok farm system right now.

I think the Yankees are pretty well positioned right now. Their bats are always good. Giambi, Jeter, Matsui, Cano, Abreu and of course A-rod. That lineup won't start declining at least for the next few years. All of them are in their 30s but hitters in baseball have a lot more years left usually. Giambi is the only one who may start declining soon. Then in the rotation you have two ace quality pitchers in Wang and Chamberlain, both of whom are young. Pettite and Mussina are old, but for this year, when Hughes and Wang comes back, that's a great rotation. Phil Hughes was a no.1 prospect last year. He'll be fine. They have an A level pitcher in the minors. The Yankees are fine now and for the future.

Yeah, is looking good. This year we get Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, Pavano and Abreu of the books. We could make a run at Teixeira also Sabathia, Sheets and perhaps Burnett are gona be targets in the offseason. If we get Teixeira then we let Abreu go, keep Nady at RF, Damon/Matsui at left and whoever doesn't field is the DH. A rotation of let say: Wang, _________ insert FA name, Chamberlain, Pettite or Mussina and Hughes/Kennedy looks good too.

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[QUOTE="msjr78"][QUOTE="UssjTrunks"]They still haven't adressed starting pitching. You can't expect 45 year-olds like Petitte and Mussina to keep up their current numbers over the course of a long and strenuous season. Besides, it's not like anything any team in the AL does will make them better than the Angels.NetYankEagle

I want AJ Burnett, but it's gonna be kinda tough to make that trade.

Ummm Jose Molinas backup was Chad Moeller(sp) so i dont know wtf your talking about. THis trade makes perfect senseNetYankEagle

Who cares who the backup was? How is that relevant? It doesn't change the simple fact that bumping Molina down to a backup role to make room for Rodriguez worsens the team defensively.

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]Ummm Jose Molinas backup was Chad Moeller(sp) so i dont know wtf your talking about. THis trade makes perfect senseOleg_Huzwog

Who cares who the backup was? How is that relevant? It doesn't change the simple fact that bumping Molina down to a backup role to make room for Rodriguez worsens the team defensively.

and if you had chad moeller in the game it makes the yankees better then pudge? obviosuly not.NetYankEagle

Wrong question, dude. If you had Rodriguez in the game at the cost of Molina AND a weakened bullpen, is the team better?

I think the Yankees getting pudge was good, but there's a reason why Detroit didn't have him as the every day catcher. He's pretty much what they have in Molina right now---good arm, but bad offense.

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]and if you had chad moeller in the game it makes the yankees better then pudge? obviosuly not.Oleg_Huzwog

Wrong question, dude. If you had Rodriguez in the game at the cost of Molina AND a weakened bullpen, is the team better?

Thank you Oleg, that was the point I was trying to make.

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]and if you had chad moeller in the game it makes the yankees better then pudge? obviosuly not.Oleg_Huzwog

Wrong question, dude. If you had Rodriguez in the game at the cost of Molina AND a weakened bullpen, is the team better?

No, this is how it breaks down...

Molina - 8 at bats, 3 hits, 2 RBI

Pudge - 153 at bats, 39 hits, 25 RBI

This isn't for who is the better one for the season, it's getting someone that you can count on in the postseason

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]and if you had chad moeller in the game it makes the yankees better then pudge? obviosuly not.Oleg_Huzwog

Wrong question, dude. If you had Rodriguez in the game at the cost of Molina AND a weakened bullpen, is the team better?

The Yankees wouldn't have traded Farnsworth if they knew they wouldn't be able to handle without him. The Yankees have a great bullpen and besides Brian Bruney is coming back and all the callups recently have been getting the job done. The trade was very good for the Yankees. Now they have a gold glove catcher that can hit.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]and if you had chad moeller in the game it makes the yankees better then pudge? obviosuly not.Jaysonguy

Wrong question, dude. If you had Rodriguez in the game at the cost of Molina AND a weakened bullpen, is the team better?

No, this is how it breaks down...

Molina - 8 at bats, 3 hits, 2 RBI

Pudge - 153 at bats, 39 hits, 25 RBI

This isn't for who is the better one for the season, it's getting someone that you can count on in the postseason

You hit the nail on the head. Who do you want in the bottom of the ninth, down by two, loaded bases, two outs as a catcher at the plate in game 7 of the ALCS? Jose Molina or Ivan Rodriguez? No brainer. Molina's bat was an obvious problem that was only going to show more in the playoffs. And Ivan Rodriguez isn't a slouch at stopping the running game either. Molina is incredible at stopping the run, but he's just not an everyday catcher.

No, this is how it breaks down...

Molina - 8 at bats, 3 hits, 2 RBI

Pudge - 153 at bats, 39 hits, 25 RBI

This isn't for who is the better one for the season, it's getting someone that you can count on in the postseason

Jaysonguy

Huh? 39 for 153 comes out to a batting average of .255. That's 50 points lower than his regular season career average. How can you "count" on that?

Who do you want in the bottom of the ninth, down by two, loaded bases, two outs as a catcher at the plate in game 7 of the ALCS? Jose Molina or Ivan Rodriguez?DA_B0MB

Up to bat? Both would be replaced by a pinch-hitter in that situation.
In the field? Molina, no question.

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]Who do you want in the bottom of the ninth, down by two, loaded bases, two outs as a catcher at the plate in game 7 of the ALCS? Jose Molina or Ivan Rodriguez?Oleg_Huzwog

Up to bat? Both would be replaced by a pinch-hitter in that situation.
In the field? Molina, no question.

Actually it depends on how Ivan hits as a Yankee. I see him hovering around .285 which is much better than Molina's .225 or so. There's some great things about having molina as a backup though. If it's extra innings he can come in and stop the running game completely. Ofcourse it depends on the situation but Molina is more useful as a solid backup. Molina is just not cutting it with his bat which is why the Yankees traded for Ivan Rodriguez in the first place.

I have no problem parting ways with Kyle Farnsworth, who was clearly the weak part of the bullpen.

The Yankees have Marte, Rivera, Ramirez (he's REALLY flown under the radar), Veras, Giese and Robertson. Thats nothing to sneeze at.