Since Kobe has finally won another championship....

Would you call Kobe one of the top-10 best players of all-time or not? I know this has been a hot topic since last night.

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

Oleg_Huzwog

If Kobe can win 5 on 1 on the court, then maybe.

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

i think that was prob the case even before this championship. I mean lets throw some names out there.

MJ, Magic, Bird, Big O, Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Shaq. There's 8 that just came to my mind. Even if you put Duncan at #9 since he is, by most accounts, the best and most accomplished PF of all time, that would leave Kobe at 10. Now youcan rearrange those players all you want but you'll be hard pressed to find any other players to crack that top 10. I mean Dr. J, Hakeem, Sir Charles, Malone, Mikan, Gervin, Cousy, Petit, Frazier, West, Havlicek, Stockton, Pippen, Robinson, etc. Those are all great players but is there really anybody in the 10 i listed that you would take out and put one of them in? i know i wouldn't. So in "my opinion" kobe was in there already, this maybe just solitifies it for anyone who was on the fence

[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

jfcundiff

in my book he is

That's a hard one.

I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :

1.Michael Jordan
2.Wilt Chamberlain
3.Oscar Robertson
4.Bill Russell
5.Magic Johnson
6.Larry Bird
7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
8.Jerry West
9.Shaquille O'Neal
10.Julius Erving

I don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?

I say yes.

he aint top 10 until he tells shaq to tell him how his ass tasteNetYankEagle

How is he not? Has all the achievments.

11 all nba teams

9 all nba defensive teams

81 points

a mvp

4 rings

3 all star mvps, 13 all star selections

On pace to breakt he scoring record.

and he is only 30.

Really Im not gonna take anyone serios who says he is not, mostdominant guard this league has ever seen right with Jordan.

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

Oleg_Huzwog

That's a hard one. I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :1.Michael Jordan2.Wilt Chamberlain3.Oscar Robertson4.Bill Russell5.Magic Johnson6.Larry Bird7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar8.Jerry West9.Shaquille O'Neal10.Julius ErvingI don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?I say yes.BaraChat

Pfft. Let's see him win a title without riding Derek Fisher's coattails. Then and only then will I be impressed.

That's a hard one. I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :1.Michael Jordan2.Wilt Chamberlain3.Oscar Robertson4.Bill Russell5.Magic Johnson6.Larry Bird7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar8.Jerry West9.Shaquille O'Neal10.Julius ErvingI don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?I say yes.BaraChat

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"] Joke post? Lets see Jordan win one without riding Kurr.....Pippen.........Rodman, Insert name here's coattails. [QUOTE="BaraChat"]That's a hard one. I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :1.Michael Jordan2.Wilt Chamberlain3.Oscar Robertson4.Bill Russell5.Magic Johnson6.Larry Bird7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar8.Jerry West9.Shaquille O'Neal10.Julius ErvingI don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?I say yes.jfcundiff

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"] POSITION is what i always say, obviously you can't compare him to Bill Russell. Guards, is Kobe in the top 10? Top 5? Top 3? Yes he is IMO.waynehead895

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I would say Top 3 SG of all-time, maybe top-2.jfcundiff

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="waynehead895"] Other than Jordan... is there really another SG you would put ahead of Kobe to say he's 3rd? West or Baylor? waynehead895

[QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]he aint top 10 until he tells shaq to tell him how his ass tasteandyboiii

[QUOTE="andyboiii"][QUOTE="NetYankEagle"]he aint top 10 until he tells shaq to tell him how his ass tasteNetYankEagle

Shaq's basically admitting he was wrong, which is really the only thing he could've done. If he said something like "DAMN I wish Kobe didn't get another ring" the media would be killing him for being a bad sport.

That's a hard one.

I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :

1.Michael Jordan
2.Wilt Chamberlain
3.Oscar Robertson
4.Bill Russell
5.Magic Johnson
6.Larry Bird
7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
8.Jerry West
9.Shaquille O'Neal
10.Julius Erving

I don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?

I say yes.

BaraChat

SLAM's new top 10 is:

1.MJ

2. Wilt Chamberlain

3. Bill Russell

4. Shaq

5. Oscar Robertson

6. Magic Johnson

7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

8. Tim Duncan

9. Larry Bird

10. Jerry West

Kobe is ranked 12, but they wrote it before the Lakers won the Championship

[QUOTE="BaraChat"]

That's a hard one.

I remember SLAM had a Top 75 back a few years ago, top 10 was :

1.Michael Jordan
2.Wilt Chamberlain
3.Oscar Robertson
4.Bill Russell
5.Magic Johnson
6.Larry Bird
7.Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
8.Jerry West
9.Shaquille O'Neal
10.Julius Erving

I don't necessarily agree with that list, honestly, but, for the fun of it, is Kobe better than anyone on that list?

I say yes.

-OpaK-

SLAM's new top 10 is:

1.MJ

2. Wilt Chamberlain

3. Bill Russell

4. Shaq

5. Oscar Robertson

6. Magic Johnson

7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

8. Tim Duncan

9. Larry Bird

10. Jerry West

Kobe is ranked 12, but they wrote it before the Lakers won the Championship

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="waynehead895"] Other than Jordan... is there really another SG you would put ahead of Kobe to say he's 3rd? West or Baylor? waynehead895

He was in the top 10 before he won his fourth title.

There's no doubt he's in the top 10, As of now he's the #2 greatest SG behind MJ andyboiii

I would have to agree that he cracks the top 10 for sure and he would be #2 behind MJ at the SG position. Now, how high he is on the top 10 list is debatable but I think he's there for sure.

There's no doubt he's in the top 10, As of now he's the #2 greatest SG behind MJ andyboiii

Championships are all about your team. Kobe could have played on garbage teams and never gotten close.duxup

1.Larry Bird 2. Jerry West 3. Michael Jordan 4. Bill Russell 5. Shaquille O'Neal 6. Wilt Chamberlin 7.Julius Erving 8. Oscar Robertson 9. Kareem-Abdul Jabbar 10.Magic Johnson. ColonelRadec

Bird and West over MJ???? You're out of your freaking mind.

11 all nba teams

9 all nba defensive teams

81 points

a mvp

4 rings

3 all star mvps, 13 all star selections

and he is only 30.

BLBxLakers24

He surely is one of the top 10 All-Time team.

I'm not sure. Even if he did make my top ten list, he'd probably be on the bottom half.