Sorry FOLKS the Redskins will win the NFC east. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

:shock:Shocker?

I think not.

Lets look sat it like this.

Kyle Shanahan running the offense. So now we will have a much improved red zone TD ratio it seems And he had the Texans as a top rated offense. Only problems Texans had no D well the Skins have a good D top 5 most likely if anything top 10 D

Ok Mike Shanahan can run the ball with someone in a wheelchair in his back field. Well lets see they have Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson and maybe Willie Parker. Yeah it's looking pretty good at running back.

WR yes I know:question: Oh wait Donaven Mcnabb never had a good WR besides TO for 1 year yet he went to 4 strait NFC title games and 1 superbowl.

QB yes Mcnabb can still play and at a vary high level. Expect good things from him this year. And Sexy Rexy knows the playbook so this will have Mcnabb up to speed sooner rather then later.

Redskins are going to suprize a lot of people this year. I have them honestly at 10-6 and going for the NFC east title.

I think they'll contend for the wildcard, but winning the division? I don't think this is the year.

No, we won't win our division this year.

If anyone but the Cowgirls win it, I'll be surprised.

OT: I finally know who OP is. :)

Ok Mike Shanahan can run the ball with someone in a wheelchair in his back field. Well lets see they have Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson and maybe Willie Parker. Yeah it's looking pretty good at running back.MortgageMan007

Running backs don't make the running game. Offensive lines make the running game, and Washington arguably has the worst O-line in the NFC.

No, we won't win our division this year.

If anyone but the Cowgirls win it, I'll be surprised.

OT: I finally know who OP is. :)

Chutebox

Don't be so sure of that .Dallas has not even scored a TD yet in there 2 preseason games?

This TC isn't the same person who created a thread topic last year about the Redskins winning the SB is it? :) At any rate, hey, anything can happen. It's unlikely, who knows? :)

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]Ok Mike Shanahan can run the ball with someone in a wheelchair in his back field. Well lets see they have Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson and maybe Willie Parker. Yeah it's looking pretty good at running back.Oleg_Huzwog

Running backs don't make the running game. Offensive lines make the running game, and Washington arguably has the worst O-line in the NFC.

Not now they have fill some holes and did you see Trent Williams in the preseason game he is a freaking beast a great pick at #4 in the draft

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]Ok Mike Shanahan can run the ball with someone in a wheelchair in his back field. Well lets see they have Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson and maybe Willie Parker. Yeah it's looking pretty good at running back.MortgageMan007

Running backs don't make the running game. Offensive lines make the running game, and Washington arguably has the worst O-line in the NFC.

Not now they have fill some holes and did you see Trent Williams in the preseason game he is a freaking beast a great pick at #4 in the draft

Trent Williams will be great someday, but since when has a rookie O-lineman ever had much success?

I love the Redskins but I don't think so. Maybe a wild card spot but it'll be very tough.

Then again I was impressed by the way the offensive line has improved the last preseason game. I want to see how they do against the Cowboys in week 1. I do think we have improved a lot overall and even the defense may be better.

i was starting to think we wouldnt get at least one of these threads from a redskins fan this year.

:lol:

we would if we had mcnabb :(

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[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]Ok Mike Shanahan can run the ball with someone in a wheelchair in his back field. Well lets see they have Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson and maybe Willie Parker. Yeah it's looking pretty good at running back.MortgageMan007

Running backs don't make the running game. Offensive lines make the running game, and Washington arguably has the worst O-line in the NFC.

Not now they have fill some holes and did you see Trent Williams in the preseason game he is a freaking beast a great pick at #4 in the draft

i was starting to think we wouldnt get at least one of these threads from a redskins fan this year.

:lol:

BeanTownBrown86

It happens every year. Then they leave when it goes down hill. :lol:

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

Yannakos

Off topic: I must say I really like your sig. :)

As for the Skins, I don't think they are ready but I do believe that they could surprise teams and surely be in the hunt for a playoff spot. As I said it'll be really tough since other NFC teams have gotten better. We shall see in week 1.

[QUOTE="Yannakos"]

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

Seabas989

Off topic: I must say I really like your sig. :)

As for the Skins, I don't think they are ready but I do believe that they could surprise teams and surely be in the hunt for a playoff spot. As I said it'll be really tough since other NFC teams have gotten better. We shall see in week 1.

See the problem here is your inaccurate now.

Washington has argueable made some serious moves to have a revamped offensive line... leaving only one starter from the previous season (in other words, the only guy whom didnt go down with injuries in casey rabach), we spent the number 1 overall pick in Trent Williams OT. We traded the Super Bowl champions NO Saints for OT Jamaal Brown. We have also aquired a starting Guard from minnesota in Artis Hicks. So thats three new lineman that you can build a foundation on right there.

Im liking the scenery in washington.

HTTR!

They're in one, if not the, toughest division in football.

I also think the Cowboys are going to be really good this season.

They should be much better tho, I think they could go 10-6 and make a run at a wildcard spot.

The NFC in general is going to be really good this year I think. Should be fun to watch.

Whoo, more unwarranted predictions! I would almost agree with you, except I don't know about the defense. Switching to the 3-4 is a bad move, IMO, there are a lot of personnel that play at a very high level in a 4-3. It's not the worst, Brian Orakpo should have an easier time switching than Aaron Kampman did, but the personnel still seems geared towards a 4-3. Plus they were pretty successful in a 4-3, who knows if the secondary will be able to adjust to the new scheme.

I agree the offense will be good and in most divisions that would be enough, but the Cowboys are still looking very good despite having some holes and the Giants are going to be tough to beat, count on it. Perry Fewell is going to give that defense a boost, he coached the Buffalo D to be one of the top pass defenses in the league last season. Frankly, I don't think the Skins or Eagles have the players in place to overtake those two teams, maybe next after they've had a draft dedicated to building their defensive system.

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

Yannakos

This is something a lot of people seem to be ignoring, but other than that I must disagree, I don't see how they've done enough to overtake New York or Dallas.

[QUOTE="Yannakos"]

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

theone86

This is something a lot of people seem to be ignoring, but other than that I must disagree, I don't see how they've done enough to overtake New York or Dallas.

Happens all the time look at teams like the Falcons 2 years ago terrible and then they turnned it around the next season. Same with the Dolphins they did the samething last year. So why should the Skins be different in this case?

Larry Johnson hasnt had a good season since 2006 and Parker has been in decline for the past 2 seasons. Portis also didnt fair well, also McNabb had a dominate D in Philly those years and still managed to cost his team multiple NFC Titles and an SB...3 Int's, way to step up in a 3 point loss. 8 or 9 wins and no playoffs. MoonMarvel

Larry Johnson hasnt had a good season since 2006 and Parker has been in decline for the past 2 seasons. Portis also didnt fair well, also McNabb had a dominate D in Philly those years and still managed to cost his team multiple NFC Titles and an SB...3 Int's, way to step up in a 3 point loss. 8 or 9 wins and no playoffs. MoonMarvel

First of all I have not anywere on here been promoting willy Parker? In fact I think i said we may have him. Honelty I don't think we need him. As for Portis he was out 8 games last year becuasae of an injury. So he is not in decline. In fact most think he has something to proof this year. And larry Johnson the verdict is not in on him. KC has had a bad team for years. So he may have some fresh legs this year.

As for Mcnabb come on with him on the field he is like a Brett Farve he always gives any team a chance to win. He is far better then just a ave QB.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Yannakos"]

The thing about it is that with McNabb entering the DC Area, not only does he get something he truely, has never had before (a potent running game), but also he simply is going to make every other player better just by his presence alone.

Washington is, indeed, a very serious contender.

HTTR BABY!

MortgageMan007

This is something a lot of people seem to be ignoring, but other than that I must disagree, I don't see how they've done enough to overtake New York or Dallas.

Happens all the time look at teams like the Falcons 2 years ago terrible and then they turnned it around the next season. Same with the Dolphins they did the samething last year. So why should the Skins be different in this case?

That's also something a lot of people seem to be ignoring in all of these prediction threads. I didn't say it was impossible, I just that right now Dallas and New York look damn good and I don't think either one has fallen off enough to be supplanted.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Larry Johnson hasnt had a good season since 2006 and Parker has been in decline for the past 2 seasons. Portis also didnt fair well, also McNabb had a dominate D in Philly those years and still managed to cost his team multiple NFC Titles and an SB...3 Int's, way to step up in a 3 point loss. 8 or 9 wins and no playoffs. flowersjf

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

This is something a lot of people seem to be ignoring, but other than that I must disagree, I don't see how they've done enough to overtake New York or Dallas.

theone86

Happens all the time look at teams like the Falcons 2 years ago terrible and then they turnned it around the next season. Same with the Dolphins they did the samething last year. So why should the Skins be different in this case?

That's also something a lot of people seem to be ignoring in all of these prediction threads. I didn't say it was impossible, I just that right now Dallas and New York look damn good and I don't think either one has fallen off enough to be supplanted.

I think Dallas has scored like 1 TD this eintire 3 games in preaseson so they are not look that great.

They will be a lot better then what they were last year, but I say 8-8 they will be competitve at the beginning and middle of season but will fade away as the season wears on.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Happens all the time look at teams like the Falcons 2 years ago terrible and then they turnned it around the next season. Same with the Dolphins they did the samething last year. So why should the Skins be different in this case?

MortgageMan007

That's also something a lot of people seem to be ignoring in all of these prediction threads. I didn't say it was impossible, I just that right now Dallas and New York look damn good and I don't think either one has fallen off enough to be supplanted.

I think Dallas has scored like 1 TD this eintire 3 games in preaseson so they are not look that great.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Happens all the time look at teams like the Falcons 2 years ago terrible and then they turnned it around the next season. Same with the Dolphins they did the samething last year. So why should the Skins be different in this case?

MortgageMan007

That's also something a lot of people seem to be ignoring in all of these prediction threads. I didn't say it was impossible, I just that right now Dallas and New York look damn good and I don't think either one has fallen off enough to be supplanted.

I think Dallas has scored like 1 TD this eintire 3 games in preaseson so they are not look that great.

And if the pre-season counted for anything then I'd say they should be worried, but it doesn't so I won't.

I still hate that we got McNabb, to me he's not a step up from Campbell at all. He's still incredibly inconsistent and he showed it this past preseason game.

Preseason is preseason and no one is playing completely seriously. The last game saw McNabb passing on almost every play and Larry Johnson not being regularly subbed out for Clinton Portis or Willie Parker after being stuffed on virtually every play. That won't happen in a real game. McNabb was working out the kinks in the offense, throwing to people like Armstrong. All of that being said, the Redskins will not win the division. Jim Haslett isn't a good defensive coordinator and switching to a 3-4 isn't ideal for their personnel. They have Andre Carter playing linebacker, a guy who just doesn't have the speed or cover skills to regularly check into the flats or underneath coverage. Now the idea is let the guy rush on every play, but you're susceptible in coverage on that side regardless. Orakpo CAN make a transition to linebacker. He has decent coverage skills but he needs a lot of work in that department. But the fact is he a better edge rusher than he is a linebacker. A MUCH better edge rusher. He has the ability to become one of the best in the game and it's a damn shame they're relegating him to linebacker like this. Albert Haynesworth is not a nose tackle. That's why they want to switch him to end. I saw him taking a couple of snaps at the nose guard, but he's not a proper nose tackle. Kemoeatu is a proper nose tackle, but he's not a very good one. That line is going to be weak. They don't have the personnel for a 3-4 and switching to it is only going to amplify the holes in their defense. Besides that, their defense was pretty good as a 4-3. There is no reason to switch to a 3-4. As far as bringing McNabb, it can't be disputed that he's an upgrade. Jason Campbell isn't a playmaker. He settles for the underneath routes and isn't even that efficient despite consistently taking the check downs. McNabbs makes plays. He throws downfield. And surprisingly, he still doesn't get picked off that often. He boasts one of the best TD to INT ratios in NFL history. The best thing is, he can make the worst receivers look good. He doesn't need an all star cast supporting him to make the plays. And he wins games. So yeah, he will win them games. But he won't win the division. My money at this point is on the Cowboys. They are stocked with too much talent and they've only upgraded from last year. The Giants could regain form and become a threat for the title as well as could the Eagles who are stockpiled with young players. I don't think Kolb is that good, but with the schemes they run, he'll be successful. Redskins will probably round out at .500. They MAY make the playoffs as a wild card team if they can scrap to 10 wins, which I doubt, but they're simply not good enough to win the division. title.frostybanana

Hail To The Redskins!!!!!!

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

Fizzman

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

Fizzman

Redskins won't go fardarkfox101

And why not:?

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

Bobbles

and the got blown out by the Vikings in the playoffs. BTW i dont suck at math i never mentioned there record, but simply stated that they are massively over hyped and fail to deliver every time.

BTW The 9-7 Cardinals made it to the SB, why didn't the 11-5 Cowboys?

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

M_1_A_M_I

Why would i? what have they done to deserve my respect in the past ten years? Unless you wanna go back to the good old days.......its about the only thing the Cowboys have going for them.

I have been, and always will be a Redskins fan, but I don't think they'll win the division this year. It'll probably be the Cowboys or Giants. The skins just don't have the big, strong players that those two teams have this year.

It could happen, and I wish it would, but don't get your hopes up just yet. I think they'll have a pretty good year, and beating Dallas already has made my season no matter what else happens this year.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

If the Redskins actually beat a good team on Sunday i would have maybe agreed with this thread. They beat the Cowgirls though the most over hyped team every year. Tony Romo + Wade Phillips = failure 99.99999% of the time.

Fizzman

and the got blown out by the Vikings in the playoffs. BTW i dont suck at math i never mentioned there record, but simply stated that they are massively over hyped and fail to deliver every time.

BTW The 9-7 Cardinals made it to the SB, why didn't the 11-5 Cowboys?

It's still too early. We still have a tough schedule ahead and we haven't faced the Giants yet. I still don't think will make it to the playoffs.

But we shall see when they play the Texans.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"] Yeah, like when they won 11 games last year. You suck at math.Bobbles

and the got blown out by the Vikings in the playoffs. BTW i dont suck at math i never mentioned there record, but simply stated that they are massively over hyped and fail to deliver every time.

BTW The 9-7 Cardinals made it to the SB, why didn't the 11-5 Cowboys?