Suns 22-2 vs the Eastern Conference w/o Shaq

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#1 nilemonitor
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The Suns are making the Eastern conference look old and slow.

Which brings up another question: What kind of a difference will Shaq make?

Will the Suns actually be worse against the East now? Will Shaq be slowing them down?

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#2 Jaysonguy
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I've said it before I'll say it again

When Kareem was in LA did Magic still run Showtime?

You need someone to get the board and the others to run, Shaq or Amare gets the board and the others run.

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#3 Just_Osmo
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Celtics are 16-0 vs West, so what does that make the West look like? Little Girls?
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#4 Greenman_34
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Well i dont think the Suns will run as much as they did with the Matrix. They now are a old veteran team with a nice starting 5 that can go against anyone. Shaq, Amare, Hill, Bell, and Nash. Thats a solid stereotypical starting five.
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#5 makaveli_89
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shaq gives amare some level of comfort when in the paint. he just provides more size and rebounding ability for the suns which can possibly help them.
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#6 X360PS3AMD05
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Yah because i think Shaq is old.
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#7 dkhw
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It doesn't matter. Nash only needs Stoudamire, Barbosa, Diaw, Bell, Hill to run. Shaq wasn't brought in for his offense anyways.
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#8 4skins4life
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Nash will still find the open man even in a 4 on 5. Phoenix has been getting killed on the boards as of late but they are still winning games. With Shaq now in place the Suns are my NBA favorites to win it all but we shall see once they stroll out the big man for the first time. Shaq has a giant chip on his shoulder right now. That could be devastating for opponents.

We might as well give the Suns the title now! (j/k) :P

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#9 Lostboy1224
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Steve Nash is notorious for dishing off to players right by the rim, and what happens when Shaq gets the ball within 5 feet of the basket? Boom! Thunder Dunk and usually gets the defense to commit a foul as well. As long as Shaq can defend when needed and protect the rim then the Suns are good to go!
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#10 balindos
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If Shaq stays healthy, I say watch out for the Suns. They can match up with anybody now and have Shaq to clog up the middle. Remember the Suns still have Diaw, which if he steps up like he did when Amare was out will make the Suns very dangerous. I know everybody thinks Shaq is washed up but if you watched Heat games this year you would know that they were not giving him the ball and when they did they won. Shaq is slower but other big men still have problem with him because for some lame reason the refs love to call the game differently for him. Shaq has never played with a player that will hand him easy points and that is where he will shine. The main question is how do you double team Amare or nash with Shaq in the middle and deadly 3pt shooters? Somebody is going to be open and how the suns play you know the pass will get there somehow. We will see tomorrow against the Lakers if Shaq plays.
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#11 balindos
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Suns Depth chart to show how they can play on the court.

PG - Nash or Barbosa

SG - Bell or Barbosa

SF - Hill or Barbosa or Diaw

PF - Amare or Diaw

C - Shaq or Amare or Diaw or Skinner

They have Good backups for all positions and can match in all different ways but more importantly they have a real center which is what most teams in the League lack.

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#12 dkhw
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Suns Depth chart to show how they can play on the court.

PG - Nash or Barbosa

SG - Bell or Barbosa

SF - Hill or Barbosa or Diaw

PF - Amare or Diaw

C - Shaq or Amare or Diaw or Skinner

They have Good backups for all positions and can match in all different ways but more importantly they have a real center which is what most teams in the League lack.

balindos

No...no...Diaw is too short, and you listed Barbosa in three different places and Diaw as well. Great DEPTH.:roll:

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#13 balindos
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[QUOTE="balindos"]

Suns Depth chart to show how they can play on the court.

PG - Nash or Barbosa

SG - Bell or Barbosa

SF - Hill or Barbosa or Diaw

PF - Amare or Diaw

C - Shaq or Amare or Diaw or Skinner

They have Good backups for all positions and can match in all different ways but more importantly they have a real center which is what most teams in the League lack.

dkhw

No...no...Diaw is too short, and you listed Barbosa in three different places and Diaw as well. Great DEPTH.:roll:

Do you remember Diaw playing center when Amare was out? Diaw can play SF, PF, or Center depending on who they are playing. Barbosa is the same. Sometimes you can have Bell, Nash and barbosa in at the same time. SO yes yes/

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#15 dkhw
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[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="balindos"]

Suns Depth chart to show how they can play on the court.

PG - Nash or Barbosa

SG - Bell or Barbosa

SF - Hill or Barbosa or Diaw

PF - Amare or Diaw

C - Shaq or Amare or Diaw or Skinner

They have Good backups for all positions and can match in all different ways but more importantly they have a real center which is what most teams in the League lack.

balindos

No...no...Diaw is too short, and you listed Barbosa in three different places and Diaw as well. Great DEPTH.:roll:

Do you remember Diaw playing center when Amare was out? Diaw can play SF, PF, or Center depending on who they are playing. Barbosa is the same. Sometimes you can have Bell, Nash and barbosa in at the same time. SO yes yes/

Really? I haven't seen the Suns since I live in NE, so all I see are Celtics game on FSN, but the point is you put Barbosa as a back-up in three different places and Diaw as well. How is that showing depth? If anything, it shows how thin they are if they have to rely on one guy (Barbosa, since Diaw is starting now with Shaq injured) coming off the bench for 40 minutes (is Barbosa even a bench player?) and one or two other guy playing 10 minutes. How is that DEPTH?

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#16 balindos
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[QUOTE="balindos"][QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="balindos"]

Suns Depth chart to show how they can play on the court.

PG - Nash or Barbosa

SG - Bell or Barbosa

SF - Hill or Barbosa or Diaw

PF - Amare or Diaw

C - Shaq or Amare or Diaw or Skinner

They have Good backups for all positions and can match in all different ways but more importantly they have a real center which is what most teams in the League lack.

dkhw

No...no...Diaw is too short, and you listed Barbosa in three different places and Diaw as well. Great DEPTH.:roll:

Do you remember Diaw playing center when Amare was out? Diaw can play SF, PF, or Center depending on who they are playing. Barbosa is the same. Sometimes you can have Bell, Nash and barbosa in at the same time. SO yes yes/

Really? I haven't seen the Suns since I live in NE, so all I see are Celtics game on FSN, but the point is you put Barbosa as a back-up in three different places and Diaw as well. How is that showing depth? If anything, it shows how thin they are if they have to rely on one guy (Barbosa, since Diaw is starting now with Shaq injured) coming off the bench for 40 minutes (is Barbosa even a bench player?) and one or two other guy playing 10 minutes. How is that DEPTH?

They have 8 deep and that is all Dantonie is going to play anyways. They have big men and not just power forwards this year.

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Thought I would bring this topic back.... Anyone watching the Pistons totally destroy the Suns at the moment?
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#18 -AK47-
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Thought I would bring this topic back.... Anyone watching the Pistons totally destroy the Suns at the moment?cell_dweller

I am:)

and enjoying it......

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Nice trade. Really making the Suns a better team.
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#20 CWEBB04z
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Nice trade. Really making the Suns a better team.Witchking111111

My jesus, yousig is...:x

anyways... Yea Shaq really is helping The suns out. Whoo never knew Shaq could help the Suns get killed.

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#21 4skins4life
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Will the Suns actually be worse against the East now? Will Shaq be slowing them down?nilemonitor

YUP! :P

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#22 Just_Osmo
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I acually think Shaq makes them better, but I think they are playing bad tonight.
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#23 manningbowl135
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Shaq will help them in the playoffs when teams like the spurs or rockets (if they go) slow down the game for Yao or TD. Against Lakers or Mavs, they still have enough ammo without Marion to keep up offensively.

Also you know Shaq will be extra good if they go up against the lakers in the playoffs.

BTW Osmo, you should finish up the 19-0 thing like you said. Now it just looks incomplete.

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#24 liljfreestyle
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as we seen SUNS r 1-3 vs the LAKERS and BUG CACTUS is doing his thing but LAKERS still drop 130+ i don't think a team in the west or east can stop KOBE with a bad hand wait till it heal and he get Bryum ALiza back hmm i doubt anyone can make a 7 game series against the lakers
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#25 tryfe_lyn
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They lost to the Timberwolves twice this season...the Suns are irrelevant :?

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as we seen SUNS r 1-3 vs the LAKERS and BUG CACTUS is doing his thing but LAKERS still drop 130+ i don't think a team in the west or east can stop KOBE with a bad hand wait till it heal and he get Bryum ALiza back hmm i doubt anyone can make a 7 game series against the lakersliljfreestyle

Just because they're doing good in the regular season doesn't mean they'll be good in the post season. I don't see them going all the way.