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#1 pundog
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Who do you guys have winning Stanleys mug? As much as I like Ottawa, I don't think they'll be able to get past the Ducks monster defense or the European captain curse. Your thoughts?
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#3 Nene33
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I'm going with the Sens, they really impressed me throughout the Play-offs.
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#5 CJL182
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I hate Anaheim, so I hope Lord Stanley's Cup finally goes back to Canada this year lol.
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#6 ZebethOrZebes
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Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.
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#7 -ZeRoHouR-
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I hope the Sens destroy Anaheim. I hate Chris Pronger and I think he is a punk who doesn't deserve the Cup.
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#8 nickdastick
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Short and sweet! Also, I agree 100%!

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Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.ZebethOrZebes

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City?  They sealed their own fates. 

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#10 Large_Soda
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Who do you guys have winning Stanleys mug? As much as I like Ottawa, I don't think they'll be able to get past the Ducks monster defense or the European captain curse. Your thoughts?pundog

The Ducks have 2 great defencemen one of which is playing injured, but other than that the Ducks defence isn't that great.  I'm worried about Giguere more than anything.  Ottawa's defence as a whole are better and their offence should be able to deliver, it's just Giguere at this point. 

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[QUOTE="pundog"]Who do you guys have winning Stanleys mug? As much as I like Ottawa, I don't think they'll be able to get past the Ducks monster defense or the European captain curse. Your thoughts?Large_Soda

The Ducks have 2 great defencemen one of which is playing injured, but other than that the Ducks defence isn't that great.  I'm worried about Giguere more than anything.  Ottawa's defence as a whole are better and their offence should be able to deliver, it's just Giguere at this point. 

The Ducks have 3 great defencemen not 2

 

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[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.Large_Soda

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City?  They sealed their own fates. 

That's hilarious, honestly. Lacklustre attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec. You're a funny guy, and it's not surprising you practice revisionist history when you're from the Canadian Epicentre of Disemblance. Quebec and Winnepeg had great support from the fans, but it lacked the wealthy base to buy seat licences, sky boxes, and season tickets. Ottawa has that because of all the deals that went down with lobbyists before the rules regulating lobbying were changed. Though I'm sure politicians and businessmen will find another way to rub elbows in your fair city.
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[QUOTE="pundog"]Who do you guys have winning Stanleys mug? As much as I like Ottawa, I don't think they'll be able to get past the Ducks monster defense or the European captain curse. Your thoughts?Large_Soda

The Ducks have 2 great defencemen one of which is playing injured, but other than that the Ducks defence isn't that great.  I'm worried about Giguere more than anything.  Ottawa's defence as a whole are better and their offence should be able to deliver, it's just Giguere at this point. 

I'd take the Ducks defense over the Sens, the Sens have a good blueline but nothing that can compete with Nieds, Pronger and Beauchemin, and if the ducks are able to roll their 4 man defense I think Ottawa will have trouble. I agree on the Giguere point though, that guy gets scary good in the playoffs. I'm cheering for the Sens, but I think the European captain curse will kill their chances.
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since 2002 whoever beat the redwings, went to the finals,,,,and lost. its like a new curse. so i will pick the sens
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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.ZebethOrZebes

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City? They sealed their own fates.

That's hilarious, honestly. Lacklustre attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec. You're a funny guy, and it's not surprising you practice revisionist history when you're from the Canadian Epicentre of Disemblance. Quebec and Winnepeg had great support from the fans, but it lacked the wealthy base to buy seat licences, sky boxes, and season tickets. Ottawa has that because of all the deals that went down with lobbyists before the rules regulating lobbying were changed. Though I'm sure politicians and businessmen will find another way to rub elbows in your fair city.

Ottawa is in the same situation when it comes to box seats.  Being a Government city and having a declining high tech industry they don't have the same vantage point as cities like Toronto or Montreal.  Out of all the Canadian teams in the league right now Ottawa has the least going for it in terms of location, city support and outrageous property taxes, yet they are still thriving.

A wealthy base, sky boxes and season tickets all contribute to a franchises success and if you are in a market that is not well equipped to handle it you will inevitably fail and that is what happened to Winnipeg and Quebec.  I'm not practicing any revisionist history, I was simply commenting that you seem to think that because Ottawa came into the league it all of a sudden meant Winnipeg and Quebec were doomed and that is not the case.

You must have some deep seeded hatred for Ottawa because it is the Capital city and that's just sad, and it shouldn't reflect on the team that plays there.  You're trying to spin it around like I never wanted the Nordiques or Jets to succeed and that is so far from the truth. 

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[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.Large_Soda

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City? They sealed their own fates.

That's hilarious, honestly. Lacklustre attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec. You're a funny guy, and it's not surprising you practice revisionist history when you're from the Canadian Epicentre of Disemblance. Quebec and Winnepeg had great support from the fans, but it lacked the wealthy base to buy seat licences, sky boxes, and season tickets. Ottawa has that because of all the deals that went down with lobbyists before the rules regulating lobbying were changed. Though I'm sure politicians and businessmen will find another way to rub elbows in your fair city.

Ottawa is in the same situation when it comes to box seats.  Being a Government city and having a declining high tech industry they don't have the same vantage point as cities like Toronto or Montreal.  Out of all the Canadian teams in the league right now Ottawa has the least going for it in terms of location, city support and outrageous property taxes, yet they are still thriving.

A wealthy base, sky boxes and season tickets all contribute to a franchises success and if you are in a market that is not well equipped to handle it you will inevitably fail and that is what happened to Winnipeg and Quebec.  I'm not practicing any revisionist history, I was simply commenting that you seem to think that because Ottawa came into the league it all of a sudden meant Winnipeg and Quebec were doomed and that is not the case.

You must have some deep seeded hatred for Ottawa because it is the Capital city and that's just sad, and it shouldn't reflect on the team that plays there.  You're trying to spin it around like I never wanted the Nordiques or Jets to succeed and that is so far from the truth. 



No, it's just fun to see how people react when you tear into their city and/or team. Usually. You reacted too seriously, I was more hoping you would have called Quebec and Winnepeg backwater hick cities, or commented on how Winnepeg was the bar-fight capital of Canada. But you didn't and that's sad. However, the NHL was far less inclined to resist the move from Quebec City to Colorado because they had a brand new team in the middle of central Canada who had the lobbying and technology industries as supporters.

Why do you think the Expos moved to Washington, DC? The city is undergoing a revival, and now lobbyists can feel safe taking their friends in government to a luxury box at a baseball game.
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#17 Large_Soda
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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.ZebethOrZebes

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City? They sealed their own fates.

That's hilarious, honestly. Lacklustre attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec. You're a funny guy, and it's not surprising you practice revisionist history when you're from the Canadian Epicentre of Disemblance. Quebec and Winnepeg had great support from the fans, but it lacked the wealthy base to buy seat licences, sky boxes, and season tickets. Ottawa has that because of all the deals that went down with lobbyists before the rules regulating lobbying were changed. Though I'm sure politicians and businessmen will find another way to rub elbows in your fair city.

Ottawa is in the same situation when it comes to box seats. Being a Government city and having a declining high tech industry they don't have the same vantage point as cities like Toronto or Montreal. Out of all the Canadian teams in the league right now Ottawa has the least going for it in terms of location, city support and outrageous property taxes, yet they are still thriving.

A wealthy base, sky boxes and season tickets all contribute to a franchises success and if you are in a market that is not well equipped to handle it you will inevitably fail and that is what happened to Winnipeg and Quebec. I'm not practicing any revisionist history, I was simply commenting that you seem to think that because Ottawa came into the league it all of a sudden meant Winnipeg and Quebec were doomed and that is not the case.

You must have some deep seeded hatred for Ottawa because it is the Capital city and that's just sad, and it shouldn't reflect on the team that plays there. You're trying to spin it around like I never wanted the Nordiques or Jets to succeed and that is so far from the truth.



No, it's just fun to see how people react when you tear into their city and/or team. Usually. You reacted too seriously, I was more hoping you would have called Quebec and Winnepeg backwater hick cities, or commented on how Winnepeg was the bar-fight capital of Canada. But you didn't and that's sad. However, the NHL was far less inclined to resist the move from Quebec City to Colorado because they had a brand new team in the middle of central Canada who had the lobbying and technology industries as supporters.

Why do you think the Expos moved to Washington, DC? The city is undergoing a revival, and now lobbyists can feel safe taking their friends in government to a luxury box at a baseball game.

The Nordiques left for many reasons and most of them were financial, sure the Senators may have had some inadvertant hand in the move, but it is not their existance that solely resulted in Quebec losing a team.

Also, the Expos left because of poor fan attendance.  Sure there were die hards like my Uncle, and even I went to my share of games whenever I could, but if a city cannot support a team then they leave.  And in all honesty it makes a lot more sense to have a baseball team in any state before it's in a Canadian city.  We just don't "get" baseball like Americans do.  The Lynx are pure proof of that. 

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ottawa is a great team no doubt but i think anaheim will be taking it in 6 or 7. and if sens win ill have to hear the cocky fans for months to come, i live here. so i really hope anaheim takes it
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#19 Large_Soda
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ottawa is a great team no doubt but i think anaheim will be taking it in 6 or 7. and if sens win ill have to hear the cocky fans for months to come, i live here. so i really hope anaheim takes itFlakoSS

Dude.  The fans here are not cocky, they are just positive, their team has never been to the finals and may never get there again, so being overly happy is a good thing.   

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The Sens will take it in 6. I love their current team (except Emery) and I think their top line will have no trouble scoring. If they could beat Brodeur, then they can certainly do the same to Giguere.

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Go Sens Go

 

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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Ducks, for the sake of Canadian hockey fans.

(The last team you should be chearing for is the team in the Capital. The team that precipitated the exit of two other Canadian teams!)

And also because I hate Ottawa.ZebethOrZebes

How was Ottawa responsible for the lackluster attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec City? They sealed their own fates.

That's hilarious, honestly. Lacklustre attendance in Winnepeg and Quebec. You're a funny guy, and it's not surprising you practice revisionist history when you're from the Canadian Epicentre of Disemblance. Quebec and Winnepeg had great support from the fans, but it lacked the wealthy base to buy seat licences, sky boxes, and season tickets. Ottawa has that because of all the deals that went down with lobbyists before the rules regulating lobbying were changed. Though I'm sure politicians and businessmen will find another way to rub elbows in your fair city.

Ottawa is in the same situation when it comes to box seats.  Being a Government city and having a declining high tech industry they don't have the same vantage point as cities like Toronto or Montreal.  Out of all the Canadian teams in the league right now Ottawa has the least going for it in terms of location, city support and outrageous property taxes, yet they are still thriving.

A wealthy base, sky boxes and season tickets all contribute to a franchises success and if you are in a market that is not well equipped to handle it you will inevitably fail and that is what happened to Winnipeg and Quebec.  I'm not practicing any revisionist history, I was simply commenting that you seem to think that because Ottawa came into the league it all of a sudden meant Winnipeg and Quebec were doomed and that is not the case.

You must have some deep seeded hatred for Ottawa because it is the Capital city and that's just sad, and it shouldn't reflect on the team that plays there.  You're trying to spin it around like I never wanted the Nordiques or Jets to succeed and that is so far from the truth. 



No, it's just fun to see how people react when you tear into their city and/or team. Usually. You reacted too seriously, I was more hoping you would have called Quebec and Winnepeg backwater hick cities, or commented on how Winnepeg was the bar-fight capital of Canada. But you didn't and that's sad. However, the NHL was far less inclined to resist the move from Quebec City to Colorado because they had a brand new team in the middle of central Canada who had the lobbying and technology industries as supporters.

Why do you think the Expos moved to Washington, DC? The city is undergoing a revival, and now lobbyists can feel safe taking their friends in government to a luxury box at a baseball game.

Besides, everyone knows Hamilton is the barfight capital of Canada.
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Could an NHL team in Hamilton, CA succeed?  I would assume that Winnipeg should be the next "new" NHL city.
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Could an NHL team in Hamilton, CA succeed? I would assume that Winnipeg should be the next "new" NHL city.Los9090

i doubt winnipeg will ever see a nhl team cant really afford one. which is a shame cuz im from Winnipeg. But im Living in Toronto and dont really Wanna see the Sens Take the cup. but being canadian i dont wanna see it go to a amercain team..

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[QUOTE="Los9090"]Could an NHL team in Hamilton, CA succeed? I would assume that Winnipeg should be the next "new" NHL city.Jackal2222

i doubt winnipeg will ever see a nhl team cant really afford one. which is a same cuz im from Winnipeg. But im Living in Toronto and dont really Wanna see the Sens Take the cup. but being canadian i dont wanna see it go to a amercain team.. 

Winnepeg's about 4rd on the list right now of Canadian cities that could get an NHL franchise (and by that I mean the Preds), after Kitchener-Waterloo, Hamilton and Toronto, because all of those areas are within an hour of the GTA and with the price of Leafs tickets a new franchise in southern Ontario would be a guarenteed sellout.
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gettin another team in Ontario would be nice as long as they dont jack up tickets like the leafs. but im still hopin on winnipeg gettin a team back.
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I worry about a team in Hamilton since it can hurt the fanbase for the Leafs and Sabres.  The Leafs will always have fans and I never understood why the Sabres brass feels they have to embrace athe Southern Ontario audience when (correct me if I'm wrong) when Canadians would rather root for teams in their country.  I feel the Sabres execs should reach out to those in Central New York state, like the Syracuse area. 
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Anaheim in 7.
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I want the Ducks to win, but I think the Sens will win it.
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sens in 5
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I worry about a team in Hamilton since it can hurt the fanbase for the Leafs and Sabres.  The Leafs will always have fans and I never understood why the Sabres brass feels they have to embrace athe Southern Ontario audience when (correct me if I'm wrong) when Canadians would rather root for teams in their country.  I feel the Sabres execs should reach out to those in Central New York state, like the Syracuse area.  Los9090
You can't hurt the Leafs fanbase, the only thing a team in Hamilton or Kitchener Waterloo would mean is that the Leafs would finally have to drop their ticket prices from the obscene prices they charge. Its cheaper to drive to Buffalo and back for a game than to see the Leafs.
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#32 Los9090
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Uh oh!  The Sens are in a 2-0 hole in the hot line for Ottawa was split up!  No kidding.
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Ottawa. They may be down by 2, and Anaheim may be good enough to beat my Canucks, but Ottawa will prevail!
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#34 ZebethOrZebes
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To the person who thinks that all Canadian Hockey fans are nationalists, ask people from Windsor which team they chear for.
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#35 melrose53
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I hate any Team that beats Detroit during the playoffs..so right now I hate The Ducks with a passion....But it seems they will win the cup..even Though Outtawa Deserves it.....Canada Deserves it!
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#36 aajohnny
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wow and thats why the ducks are up 2 games 2-0 and are gonna top off the sens asses,they got away and deserved to lose vs buffalo.They are so freakin favored.Go ducks.
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#37 fws831
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i say the sens turn it around and win it in 7
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#38 Los9090
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I think Ottawa can pull this one game out for Game 3  If not, its over..
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Did anybody see the Ottawa player kick that goal in a few minutes ago?  I can't believe they called it a goal, that's such BS.  Must be Canadian officials...
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#40 murlow12
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And now Pronger elbows a guy in the head.  He'll get suspended for that hit for sure.  This just doesn't look to be the Ducks' game.  I guess that's okay if you have a 2-0 lead.
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WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

SENS DESTROY DUCKS 5-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! GO SENS GO!!!!!!!!!!

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Did anybody see the Ottawa player kick that goal in a few minutes ago? I can't believe they called it a goal, that's such BS. Must be Canadian officials...murlow12

Wether Alfredsson tried to stop it still was a 'kicking motion" none the less.  That guy got away with an elbow to a head in the ECF, so I wasn't suprised when they allowed the goal.  It changed the momentum of course.  Its too bad. 

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Chris Pronger gets suspended for his elbow to Dean McAmmond.  His second suspension during this season's playoffs.
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I don't even care about Pronger getting suspended, im glad though, but i'm more worried about how Dean McAmmond is because he is a real asset to our team I believe. Very good young player.
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#45 -ZeRoHouR-
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Man, I seriously hate Pronger.  He may be a great defensemen but he is a terrible teammate.  I have always hated him even when he spent most of his time with St. Louis.  He is a punk who does not (in my mind) deserve the Cup.
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#47 Los9090
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Ottawa is looking good so far in Game 4.  Up 1-0.
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#49 murlow12
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Game 4 is the key to this Cup. If the Ducks win, it is over. If Ottawa wins, it's a toss up best of 3.roulettethedog
Agreed, and the Ducks are 5:24 away from it being "over"
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#50 murlow12
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Ducks win game 4, and this series is all but over.  The rest is a technicality.