the heat can't close out games for nothin....

i like the heat....love bron and wade, but when its a close game, one of them have to be the man and takeover, its like one of them is scared to do it......i beleive wade down the stretch, bron cool down tha stretch.....but wade shown that str8 killer instinct thats why he got that ring. theyhave the perfect combo, bron can find wade easily in the 4th down the stretch. but once they start doing that, they'll win some rings, of course when they get a legitamate big man also and consistent d.......can't wait to see bron and wade get theyre chemistry down packed....cuz watchin this knicks games is pissin me off, the only one on that team that can play decent defense is amare, i don't see rotation, they just ball watchin....its killin me

The "Big 3" isn't working as well as planned. And it's a good thing, because it would've been a terrible trend for basketball.

The Celtics Big 3 made a lot of sense because these 3 guys were hungry for a Championship, and were veterans that played great D.

Heat will win a Championship soon most likely.. but they have a lot of maturing to do.

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

yokofox33

Yeah but everyone thought Wade/Bron would be enough.... this years playoffs should be interesting.

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

Yeah but everyone thought Wade/Bron would be enough.... this years playoffs should be interesting.

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

yokofox33

They do have a problem closing out games though. I think they're 1-8 in games decided by 5 points or less. Even Wade said they they've got to learn to trust each other more in crunch time, and that they've got to strive to be like the Celtics in that regard.

It won't be much of a problem in the regular season, but come playoff time, it could be a major weakness in a 7 game series against Orlando, Boston & maybe even Chicago.

The "Big 3" isn't working as well as planned. And it's a good thing, because it would've been a terrible trend for basketball.

The Celtics Big 3 made a lot of sense because these 3 guys were hungry for a Championship, and were veterans that played great D.AHUGECAT

So its only a bad trend if it worked for the Heat but not the Celtics? Doesnt make any sense.

Besides this should go in the Heat Watch thread....why no one wants to use that is just ridiculous now. Too many Heat and Lebron threads.

The "Big 3" isn't working as well as planned. And it's a good thing, because it would've been a terrible trend for basketball.

The Celtics Big 3 made a lot of sense because these 3 guys were hungry for a Championship, and were veterans that played great D.

Heat will win a Championship soon most likely.. but they have a lot of maturing to do.

AHUGECAT

Just goes to show how valuable Bosh is to that team.flowersjf

I agree that Bosh is a big factor for the team. Bigger than people give him credit for but they still had Wade and James.

I think it has more to do with Lebron having an awful shooting night. Too bad cause Wade was on fire. Oh well I guess. I dont have anything against the Knicks.

I think it has more to do with Lebron having an awful shooting night.

wildcat2000

That and the terrible offense down the stretch. It was just Wade & Lebron taking turns playing iso-ball. No ball movement what so ever. Just Lebron/Wade dribbling & holding the ball with everyone else watching.

The broadcasting crew seemed outright disgusted by the Heat down the stretch. Examples:

Kerr: "Are you kidding me?"
Miller: "Spoelstra needs a timeout..."
Albert: "...and there is LeBron continuously holding the ball again."

They pretty much piled on in the last few minutes.

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

I think it has more to do with Lebron having an awful shooting night.

SaintBlaze

That and the terrible offense down the stretch. It was just Wade & Lebron taking turns playing iso-ball. No ball movement what so ever. Just Lebron/Wade dribbling & holding the ball with everyone else watching.

The broadcasting crew seemed outright disgusted by the Heat down the stretch. Examples:

Kerr: "Are you kidding me?"
Miller: "Spoelstra needs a timeout..."
Albert: "...and there is LeBron continuously holding the ball again."

They pretty much piled on in the last few minutes.

Yeah I heard some of that. Well I missed the end of the game but I saw someone mention they almost tied the game but someone (other than Lebron or Wade) took the shot.

I don't know like I said I missed the end but it just bugs me so much that anyone else besides Wade, James or Bosh would get the ball in those situations. That seriously needs to stop. They have 3 superstars for a reason.

That seriously needs too stop.

wildcat2000

Why? :?

Chalmers had a wide open look. Wade missed all his shots in the 4th quarter & Lebron was shooting like crap. Even Michael Jordan needed his role players to hit big shots.

In one thread you praise Derek Fisher for being clutch yet you've got a problem with role players on the Heat stepping up to take key shots. Makes no sense.

Also: This is a little off topic, but Bosh isn't a superstar. It just bugs me when people label him as one.

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

That seriously needs too stop.

SaintBlaze

Why? :?

Chalmers had a wide open look. Wade missed all his shots in the 4th quarter & Lebron was shooting like crap. Even Michael Jordan needed his role players to hit big shots.

In one thread you praise Derek Fisher for being clutch yet you've got a problem with role players on the Heat stepping up to take key shots. Makes no sense.

Also: This is a little off topic, but Bosh isn't a superstar. It just bugs me when people label him as one.

Like I said I missed the end. Anyway I agree on trusting your teammates but I dont think you can compare Chalmers to Fisher. Derek Fisher is a far better role player.I dont think anyone will disagree with that.

Well Bosh is a great player. I never saw much of him on the Raptors and I'll admit I was a bit skeptical at just how good he would be but he has really surprised me.

Like I said I missed the end. Anyway I agree on trusting your teammates but I dont think you can compare Chalmers to Fisher. Derek Fisher is a far better role player.I dont think anyone will disagree with that.

wildcat2000

Thats mostly because Chalmers hasn't had the chance to prove himself like Fisher has over the years. The point is that Fisher wouldn't have the reputation that he does if his teammates didn't trust him enough to take those big shots.

But really, there's no point in being mad at Lebron/Wade/Bosh deferring to their teammates. If it's an open shot, then it was a good decision on their parts to pass off.

Well Bosh is a great player. I never saw much of him on the Raptors and I'll admit I was a bit skeptical at just how good he would be but he has really surprised me.

wildcat2000

He is a great player. Not a superstar though. I think there's only a handful of players you can really label as superstars.

Thats mostly because Chalmers hasn't had the chance to prove himself like Fisher has over the years. The point is that Fisher wouldn't have the reputation that he does if his teammates didn't trust him enough to take those big shots.SaintBlaze

Yes that's true.

But really, there's no point in being mad at Lebron/Wade/Bosh deferring to their teammates. If it's an open shot, then it was a good decision on their parts to pass off.

Yeah if your wide open might as well take the shot it's just with such 3 huge options this team has I find it annoying that they dont always use them for gamewinning or tie shots when time is running out.

Not that you shouldnt trust your teammates but with this team its like in those situations why would you choose otherwise? They have 3 huge options, a luxury that not many teams have.

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

SaintBlaze

They do have a problem closing out games though. I think they're 1-8 in games decided by 5 points or less. Even Wade said they they've got to learn to trust each other more in crunch time, and that they've got to strive to be like the Celtics in that regard.

It won't be much of a problem in the regular season, but come playoff time, it could be a major weakness in a 7 game series against Orlando, Boston & maybe even Chicago.

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

I think it has more to do with Lebron having an awful shooting night.

SaintBlaze

That and the terrible offense down the stretch. It was just Wade & Lebron taking turns playing iso-ball. No ball movement what so ever. Just Lebron/Wade dribbling & holding the ball with everyone else watching.

The broadcasting crew seemed outright disgusted by the Heat down the stretch. Examples:

Kerr: "Are you kidding me?"
Miller: "Spoelstra needs a timeout..."
Albert: "...and there is LeBron continuously holding the ball again."

They pretty much piled on in the last few minutes.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

The "Big 3" were working pretty damn well when they won something like 22 out of 23 games.

Then injuries hit. Once everyone is healthy they should be fine.

youngmurk911

Yeah but everyone thought Wade/Bron would be enough.... this years playoffs should be interesting.

Orlando seriously lacks a big man besides Dwight. Bass is too soft to be a big man and Turkoglu isn't a 4, he's more of a point forward.

How about we give this team a year to figure things out. You can't put all stars together and expect them to figure everything out. Give it time and they will eventually gel...

For starters they need a "stronger" coach than Spoelstra who's gonna step in and organize that offense because now it's atrocious.

They're still 8-10 against teams over .500, it shows you that talent alone won't be able to win you games every night against better organized teams.

Did you see the Washington Game? :O We scored like 5 points in like 20 seconds. Or idk. We were about to lose I say. But we won. Hee

But if you mean close out as in leading by 20 or something and losing then I understand.

They are the "Big 3" for a reason. Supporting cast is just too weak too often.

How about we give this team a year to figure things out. You can't put all stars together and expect them to figure everything out. Give it time and they will eventually gel...

feryl06

[QUOTE="feryl06"]

How about we give this team a year to figure things out. You can't put all stars together and expect them to figure everything out. Give it time and they will eventually gel...

No_Hablo_Ingles

true

The Celtics Big 3 all ahd clearly defined roles.

The Heat have 2 players with the exact same role, and a big man who cant rebound/defend.

[QUOTE="SaintBlaze"]

[QUOTE="wildcat2000"]

I think it has more to do with Lebron having an awful shooting night.

DJ_Magneto

That and the terrible offense down the stretch. It was just Wade & Lebron taking turns playing iso-ball. No ball movement what so ever. Just Lebron/Wade dribbling & holding the ball with everyone else watching.

The broadcasting crew seemed outright disgusted by the Heat down the stretch. Examples:

Kerr: "Are you kidding me?"
Miller: "Spoelstra needs a timeout..."
Albert: "...and there is LeBron continuously holding the ball again."

They pretty much piled on in the last few minutes.

Yeah, I agree with pretty much all your observations, espeically the bolded. D-Wade pretty much said the samething in a a recent interview about their ability to close out tight games.

[QUOTE="feryl06"]

How about we give this team a year to figure things out. You can't put all stars together and expect them to figure everything out. Give it time and they will eventually gel...

No_Hablo_Ingles

Yeah, I was about to say the samething. They were pretty much dominating their first year, & lchemistry down the stretch in games really wasn't an issue for them.

Well they closed tonight :P

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="feryl06"]

How about we give this team a year to figure things out. You can't put all stars together and expect them to figure everything out. Give it time and they will eventually gel...

hkhatir

true

The Celtics Big 3 all ahd clearly defined roles.

The Heat have 2 players with the exact same role, and a big man who cant rebound/defend.

I hate Joel Anthony as our starting center, but don't take the only thing he has going for him and say he can't rebound/defend.

And in crunch time were basically "isolation basketball team." Its really annoying, I mean Spo really has no plays at all to run. To the people saying that we can't "gel" like Boston, well look at their coach Doc. You can't argue that Doc has probably the best constructed plays in the league. I'm sure that if our coaching staff could draw up a couple plays then we could "gel" together.

LOL at people saying that we probably can't beat Chicago or NY in a playoff series. :lol: Please stop overreacting, we almost beat chicago with only Wade, and NY won their first game against us when we didn't have Bosh and we controlled mainly the entire game.

Lastly, stop with the threads everytime we lose, what the Heat watch thread not enough anymore?:roll:

I hate Joel Anthony as our starting center, but don't take the only thing he has going for him and say he can't rebound/defend.

And in crunch time were basically "isolation basketball team." Its really annoying, I mean Spo really has no plays at all to run. To the people saying that we can't "gel" like Boston, well look at their coach Doc. You can't argue that Doc has probably the best constructed plays in the league. I'm sure that if our coaching staff could draw up a couple plays then we could "gel" together.

LOL at people saying that we probably can't beat Chicago or NY in a playoff series. :lol: Please stop overreacting, we almost beat chicago with only Wade, and NY won their first game against us when we didn't have Bosh and we controlled mainly the entire game.

Lastly, stop with the threads everytime we lose, what the Heat watch thread not enough anymore?:roll:

Jagged3dge

lol Doc was getting chants to be fired at games before the big three came along. And Dwyane Wade himself said they're not gelling like Boston too.

And who said the Heat can't beat NY in a playoff series? I didn't see anyone on this board say that. :?

And I don't see how you can laugh at the possibility of losing a series to Chicago. They're only one game behind the Heat in the standings right now, without Noah healthy & Boozer missing plenty of games earlier in the season. That team matches up really well with the Heat on paper, & thats all we can go by since both teams haven't faced each other when they're completely healthy. But I think you're underrating them.