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How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
LOEAnubis
Assuming Favre doesn't get injured, I can definitely see them having a shot to make it to the playoffs. I'm not saying they have a shot at the superbowl just because they have Favre, but because they have a pretty darn good team with or without Favre. Panthers and Giants (heavy favorites to get into last year's Superbowl mind you) sputtered out in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. Cowboys are choke artists in the playoffs during recent years. With a surprise team in the Superbowl last year, I say anything can happen should the Vikings get into the playoffs.
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How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
jiggaloj
Assuming Favre doesn't get injured, I can definitely see them having a shot to make it to the playoffs. I'm not saying they have a shot at the superbowl just because they have Favre, but because they have a pretty darn good team with or without Favre. Panthers and Giants (heavy favorites to get into last year's Superbowl mind you) sputtered out in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. Cowboys are choke artists in the playoffs during recent years. With a surprise team in the Superbowl last year, I say anything can happen should the Vikings get into the playoffs.
Favre might get them to the playoffs, but he's a terrible `one and done' quarterback - as the last decade with the Packers showed. Cold weather is not good for him anymore ... and he blows games too often for playoff must-win games.
If he's even healthy for it.
[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
jiggaloj
Assuming Favre doesn't get injured, I can definitely see them having a shot to make it to the playoffs. I'm not saying they have a shot at the superbowl just because they have Favre, but because they have a pretty darn good team with or without Favre. Panthers and Giants (heavy favorites to get into last year's Superbowl mind you) sputtered out in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. Cowboys are choke artists in the playoffs during recent years. With a surprise team in the Superbowl last year, I say anything can happen should the Vikings get into the playoffs.
Without Favre they don't have a solid QB, they have one that got eaten alive in the playoffs last year. The Vikings are an okay team. Like I said they can win the division, sure I believe they can. But Super Bowl? The Cards got there last year with a great passing game, with or without Favre, they don't have that. A good running game can only get you so far, without a good balance they aren't winning the Super Bowl. Recent history has shown that a good passing game can overcome a so-so running game. A good running game cannot overcome a so-so passing game.And last years faults don't equate to this years faults. The Giants are not dealing with the late season loss of Burress, the Panthers self-imploded, and the Cowboys are choke artists, but I still can't count them out. They were one bobbled snap away from a playoff win two years ago.
That and the poll says Favre getting the Vikings to the Super Bowl, not playoffs. I said they can make the playoffs, but they are not getting to the Super Bowl.
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[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
LOEAnubis
Assuming Favre doesn't get injured, I can definitely see them having a shot to make it to the playoffs. I'm not saying they have a shot at the superbowl just because they have Favre, but because they have a pretty darn good team with or without Favre. Panthers and Giants (heavy favorites to get into last year's Superbowl mind you) sputtered out in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. Cowboys are choke artists in the playoffs during recent years. With a surprise team in the Superbowl last year, I say anything can happen should the Vikings get into the playoffs.
Without Favre they don't have a solid QB, they have one that got eaten alive in the playoffs last year. The Vikings are an okay team. Like I said they can win the division, sure I believe they can. But Super Bowl? The Cards got there last year with a great passing game, with or without Favre, they don't have that. A good running game can only get you so far, without a good balance they aren't winning the Super Bowl. Recent history has shown that a good passing game can overcome a so-so running game. A good running game cannot overcome a so-so passing game.And last years faults don't equate to this years faults. The Giants are not dealing with the late season loss of Burress, the Panthers self-imploded, and the Cowboys are choke artists, but I still can't count them out. They were one bobbled snap away from a playoff win two years ago.
That and the poll says Favre getting the Vikings to the Super Bowl, not playoffs. I said they can make the playoffs, but they are not getting to the Super Bowl.
Yea, you're right. They do have a chance to win if they do get into the superbowl as with any other team that gets in though.
That was a toughy...I was a little torn between TO and Vick in Philly. But I went with the sure thing...TO. It's amazing that a franchise that had the straight and narrow type like Flutie goes and picks up pure chaos creator TO.
However, I think Vick in Philly could make a difference for them. I like McNabb, but he just doesn't get it done. So, I could see them sticking Vick in there at some point.
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[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
LOEAnubis
Assuming Favre doesn't get injured, I can definitely see them having a shot to make it to the playoffs. I'm not saying they have a shot at the superbowl just because they have Favre, but because they have a pretty darn good team with or without Favre. Panthers and Giants (heavy favorites to get into last year's Superbowl mind you) sputtered out in the divisional round of the playoffs last year. Cowboys are choke artists in the playoffs during recent years. With a surprise team in the Superbowl last year, I say anything can happen should the Vikings get into the playoffs.
Without Favre they don't have a solid QB, they have one that got eaten alive in the playoffs last year. The Vikings are an okay team. Like I said they can win the division, sure I believe they can. But Super Bowl? The Cards got there last year with a great passing game, with or without Favre, they don't have that. A good running game can only get you so far, without a good balance they aren't winning the Super Bowl. Recent history has shown that a good passing game can overcome a so-so running game. A good running game cannot overcome a so-so passing game.And last years faults don't equate to this years faults. The Giants are not dealing with the late season loss of Burress, the Panthers self-imploded, and the Cowboys are choke artists, but I still can't count them out. They were one bobbled snap away from a playoff win two years ago.
That and the poll says Favre getting the Vikings to the Super Bowl, not playoffs. I said they can make the playoffs, but they are not getting to the Super Bowl.
I totally agree with your first post. I think the Vikings are a lock to make the playoffs, but as far as going far I think that's up in the air. Even Favre doesn't solidify that. Remember the last time he made a playoff push in New York? Or how about in Green Bay? Hell, remember the last time he was in a playoff game and he threw the game away on interceptions? The Vikes are a good team but they didn't make it past the Philly D last season and that D hasn't gotten much less imposing, plus Favre is always a question during the late/post season.
I don't expect the Cowboys to make the playoffs, I think the Giants might also miss out, and Carolina's going tohave a hard time against a run D like Minnesota's IF they even make the playoffs. If Minnesota wins the division or the Wild Card I see them facing either Chicago or Green Bay in the first round. I think the other Wild Card game will be either Seattle or Arizona against either Atlanta or New Orleans. The winner of either of those games is going to go up against either Atlanta, New Orleans, or Philly. Now there are too many factors to sort out, but I think every single one of those teams at least has a shot to beat Minnesota, some a better shot than others. I think the least you can say is that the playoffs are unpredictable even late in the season and the Vikings aren't a lock to do anything more than make the playoffs right now.
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
You're right about everything but the favre, part, I think. The Cowboys can't beat the Vikings. And the Vikings can definately compete with the Giants and Panthers. To tell the truth, the Vikings are probably the #2 or #3 team in the NFC after the Eagles and maybe the Cardinals. It'll be interesting to see Warner and Favre against each other in the NFC Championship, but it probably won't happen.I guess I never voted. :P For me I'd have to go with Favre. Minnesota always beats my Panthers (>_>), and I'm sure they could beat any team from the East. The main question marks for me are Arizona if they play as well as they did last year down the stretch and probably a team like Chicago who can consistently get the best of Favre. Otherwise I'm pretty sure they could run right past those South and East teams.
Yes, I'm going bold.
[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]You're right about everything but the favre, part, I think. The Cowboys can't beat the Vikings. And the Vikings can definately compete with the Giants and Panthers. To tell the truth, the Vikings are probably the #2 or #3 team in the NFC after the Eagles and maybe the Cardinals. It'll be interesting to see Warner and Favre against each other in the NFC Championship, but it probably won't happen.How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
thequietguy
The Panthers probably won't even take the division. DeAngelo Williams is a beast, but the offense simply can't overcome good run defenses like Minnesota's behind the arm of Delhomme. I wouldn't rule them out against beating the Vikes, though. They still have a killer D that can put pressure on the run game with a good D-Line that still includes Julius Peppers and generate interceptions. In case you haven't been watching football for the past 12 years, Favre tends to throw a lot of those.
I don't think the Panthers will take the division, I think it will be either Atlanta or New Orleans. Minnesota has a good rush D, but do you really think they can stop Matt Ryan or Drew Brees? A team like the Vikings is the perfect team for Reggie Bush to take advantage of. You play him as a short down receiver and get him out away from the Williams Wall and he can eat up Minnesota's secondary. And a Matt Ryan/Tony Gonzales tandem? Against Minnesota's secondary? Please, they are by no means a sure thing as far as going deep in the playoffs is concerned.
Vikings are probably the four or five team at best. I think Atlanta and New Oreleans are going to have better seasons and I think Philly's higher. I also think that Seattle, Arizona, and Carolina all have legitimate shots to put up better records than the Vikes. I also don't believe the Vikes are locks to win the division. Green Bay has some awesome corners still playing for them and Chicago has been able to dominate Favre even when their D hasn't exactly stood out. Favre in no way automatically makes the Vikes division champs. I say they're either the third-seeded dvision champs or the second-seeded wild card at the end of the year.
yea but since he doesnt have a second season he will have to disrupt in the first one and frankly i see it happenin around mid season :PHow about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
LOEAnubis
i dont see sanchez leadin the jets to the playoffs either, tho i wouldnt dismiss them from landin a wildcard, but that doesnt mean sanchez will be leadin them
vick will probly get thrown into a few plays a game and im sure it will work really well at first but i dont see it lasting very long there by having some but certianly not significant impact
i take nothin away from farve hes goin into the hall when its all said and done but i cant stand the way hes goin about all this, i love adrian peterson and hope to see him become the next greatest running back in the game and hope he doesnt end up like barry and never get a ring so it makes it very hard for me to say but frankly i dont want farve to take the vikings anywhere, there by finally endin this whole farve joke and gettin rid of childress as coach and gettin a real leader at QB
yea but since he doesnt have a second season he will have to disrupt in the first one and frankly i see it happenin around mid season :POh I understand that, but that's where the second point comes into play, can you really disrupt someting that isn't stable? They have only broken .500 once this decade... 7 - 8 wins is average, and that is something TO doesn't play well with. If he thinks he is on a team that can make the playoffs he is mistaken. I'm sure he is there for all the face time he can get and to pad his stats to get a payday. So if he throws a fit, meh, I don't see that "disrupting" the Bills, I mean, how much lower can they go?[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
-DirtySanchez-
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[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]
How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
yea but since he doesnt have a second season he will have to disrupt in the first one and frankly i see it happenin around mid season :POh I understand that, but that's where the second point comes into play, can you really disrupt someting that isn't stable? They have only broken .500 once this decade... 7 - 8 wins is average, and that is something TO doesn't play well with. If he thinks he is on a team that can make the playoffs he is mistaken. I'm sure he is there for all the face time he can get and to pad his stats to get a payday. So if he throws a fit, meh, I don't see that "disrupting" the Bills, I mean, how much lower can they go? Ask the Lions.I agree with the first three, but the Vikings reaching the Super Bowl, while improbable, is more likely than the other.How about none of the above?
TO doesn't usually disrupt a team until the second season, which he doesn't have. Plus it is the Bills, can't really disrupt something that isn't stable.
Vick is going to be a clipboard holder unless McNabb gets hurt. Sure he is injury prone, but as far as Vick having a "significant impact" not likely.
Sanchez leading the Jets to the playoffs? In that division? Not likely. Especially since the North will probably send two teams and the South will probably send two teams. I can't put the Jets above the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Colts or Titans. Plus he had one preseason game against the Rams defense, not really a staunch test. Lets see how he does against the Ravens D before making him the next superstar.
Farve leading the Vikings to the Super Bowl. No. They may win the division, but that isn't saying much. Can you see them beating the Falcons, Panthers, Cowboys, or Giants? I can't.
LOEAnubis
Brett Favre leading the Vikings to the super bowl.
The NFC isn't very strong. They could beat the Giants Eli is not very good when he doesnt ghave plax. LOL at the person who said the Vikings couldnt beat the cowboys out the cowboys get rid of T.O and Greg Ellis and everyone thinks they are a super bowl team? i think not. The Falcons may be able to give them a run for their money but the Vikings D-line would pwn Mat Ryan. The Cardinals will have that superbowl hangover that every team that loses the superbowl seems to end up getting but they might win the division still since the only competition in it is the Seahawks. Im not saying the Vikings will end up winning the superbowl but they have a good chance of getting there barring injuries.
Brett Favre leading the Vikings to the super bowl.
The NFC isn't very strong. They could beat the Giants Eli is not very good when he doesnt ghave plax. LOL at the person who said the Vikings couldnt beat the cowboys out the cowboys get rid of T.O and Greg Ellis and everyone thinks they are a super bowl team? i think not. The Falcons may be able to give them a run for their money but the Vikings D-line would pwn Mat Ryan. The Cardinals will have that superbowl hangover that every team that loses the superbowl seems to end up getting but they might win the division still since the only competition in it is the Seahawks. Im not saying the Vikings will end up winning the superbowl but they have a good chance of getting there barring injuries.
PiTPenguins2787
that vikings DLINE didnt pwn matt ryan last year....when the falcons beat the vikes 24-17 on the road in minnesota
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