At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick.
I really want to say the Blue Jays but i don't think they have the best starting rotation. Red Sox has the best rotation period. This is their year's to win it all.
At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. schoolisnotkool
Tiger has the best rotation. period.....they proved it last year pitching the lowest ERA. A rotation that inlcudes Kenny Rogers, Jerermy Bonderman, Justin Verlander, Nate Robertson, Mike Maroth.
Tiger has the best rotation. period.....they proved it last year pitching the lowest ERA. A rotation that inlcudes Kenny Rogers, Jerermy Bonderman, Justin Verlander, Nate Robertson, Mike Maroth. badaboom187
Tiger has the best rotation. period.....they proved it last year pitching the lowest ERA. A rotation that inlcudes Kenny Rogers, Jerermy Bonderman, Justin Verlander, Nate Robertson, Mike Maroth. badaboom187
I agree, for those who thought the Red Sox had a better one, how so?
At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. schoolisnotkool
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation.
[QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. dru26
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Great post
I dont know, i think the Detroit Tigers have the best potential starting rotation. We have Verlander who should win 20 this year, Rogers also coudl take 20, Robertson struck out 5 in todays game, Bonderman one of the best young arms in the game and maroth who was 5-2 before getting hurt last year.
I dont know, i think the Detroit Tigers have the best potential starting rotation. We have Verlander who should win 20 this year, Rogers also coudl take 20, Robertson struck out 5 in todays game, Bonderman one of the best young arms in the game and maroth who was 5-2 before getting hurt last year.zeldafan00013
[QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. dru26
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. The yankees? Are you serious. it's ok, we must have a fan.
[QUOTE="zeldafan00013"]I dont know, i think the Detroit Tigers have the best potential starting rotation. We have Verlander who should win 20 this year, Rogers also coudl take 20, Robertson struck out 5 in todays game, Bonderman one of the best young arms in the game and maroth who was 5-2 before getting hurt last year.Espurs117
lol Rogers isnt winning 20. Had 17 last year, he has the potential to win 20. The team went into a slump if it was not for that him and verlander both would have been 20 game winners last year.
[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="zeldafan00013"]I dont know, i think the Detroit Tigers have the best potential starting rotation. We have Verlander who should win 20 this year, Rogers also coudl take 20, Robertson struck out 5 in todays game, Bonderman one of the best young arms in the game and maroth who was 5-2 before getting hurt last year.zeldafan00013
lol Rogers isnt winning 20. Had 17 last year, he has the potential to win 20. The team went into a slump if it was not for that him and verlander both would have been 20 game winners last year. Sorry but I don't see it happening, he was a very underrated pick up last year (till playoffs). I also think the Tigers have the best rotation but I don't see Rogers winning 20.
[QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. dru26
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.
[QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. bunchofpixels
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.Proctor? Bruney? Vizcaino(sp)? Who do the Sox still got Timlin:lol:
[QUOTE="bunchofpixels"][QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. XxMa5icarxX
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.Proctor? Bruney? Vizcaino(sp)? Who do the Sox still got Timlin:lol:So you are saying the Yankees have a better starting rotation than the Red Sox. Dont be a homer.
Hahahahahahhahahahahaha! The Yankees have like a rank between 15-20 for best starting rotations. They have nobody! Definitely the Red Sox have the best rotation for this upcoming season.
[QUOTE="XxMa5icarxX"][QUOTE="bunchofpixels"][QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. bunchofpixels
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.Proctor? Bruney? Vizcaino(sp)? Who do the Sox still got Timlin:lol:So you are saying the Yankees have a better starting rotation than the Red Sox. Dont be a homer.i never said they had a better starting rotation. You pointed out Rivera looks like hes in he Bullpen so i named the bullpen pitchers.
i agree that it's the sox NOW, but i really believe not having a left hander will eventually hurt them.sixringz1
Well they do have Jon Lester waiting for the call, he has been told to take it easy since coming off of cancer treatment but he will be called up during the season. I would expect pretty good things from him.
this is basically the "Agree that you think your favorite team has the best starting rotation thread"XxMa5icarxX
Yes and no. If you are the Yankees and love your team then you will try very hard to see the good in your teams rotation and say yours is the best but deep down in your heart you know the BoSox are much much superior in that department. Its fact. I know your a bit ticked off that everyone is mentioning the Red Sox rotation because it is the only mlb team that significantly upgraded their starting pitching. And it was made very public mainly because of the D-Mat hype, which is well deserved. I mean we all know that pettite is back and you guys picked up some no name lefty who barely throws 90 mph but thats no difference maker and you know that, as do we all. Its just the truth.
Yes. Red Sox has the best rotation and I not even a fan of the Sox. Well, I not even a fan of MLB. I just like to look at the stats and watch the World Series and that's it. I could care less if Red Sox won the world series or Detroit Tigers for that matter. Detroit rotation comes in second.
[QUOTE="XxMa5icarxX"]this is basically the "Agree that you think your favorite team has the best starting rotation thread"schoolisnotkool
Yes and no. If you are the Yankees and love your team then you will try very hard to see the good in your teams rotation and say yours is the best but deep down in your heart you know the BoSox are much much superior in that department. Its fact. I know your a bit ticked off that everyone is mentioning the Red Sox rotation because it is the only mlb team that significantly upgraded their starting pitching. And it was made very public mainly because of the D-Mat hype, which is well deserved. I mean we all know that pettite is back and you guys picked up some no name lefty who barely throws 90 mph but thats no difference maker and you know that, as do we all. Its just the truth.So you have 2 guys in the rotation who had basically 5 ERA and Curt Schilling who is getting old but he did have a 3 era but he isnt gonna save the team. D-Mats is said to be good in Japan. Igawa had a 2 Era in Japan. So im still lost on how the Sox rotation is the best in the league. Papelbon was a good closer but no one knows how he is gonna do as a starter because he did suck ass at it when he was one. Im not even saying the Yankees have the best rotation either id go with Detroit.
Cubs lineup is good when healthy so i hope that finally happens... Tigers have a good lineup too, and it would of won them the WS but the Cards lineup stepped it up at the right time, but i think they lost a few of their pitchers
I was going to say the same thing but then read your post.          for me the dodgers rotation is pretty strong. they even have xtra arms because pitchers always get hurt.
[QUOTE="XxMa5icarxX"][QUOTE="bunchofpixels"][QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. bunchofpixels
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.Proctor? Bruney? Vizcaino(sp)? Who do the Sox still got Timlin:lol:So you are saying the Yankees have a better starting rotation than the Red Sox. Dont be a homer. Absolutely, Wang won 19 games last year, led the AL with ground ball outs,and was the second runner up to the Cy Young award. Mussina had the same record as Schilling with a half a run lower ERA, while giving up 10 less HRs, and he's the Yanks 3rd starter. Speaking of homers Mr.Beckett led MLB with a staggering 36 given up, while pitching to a lofty 5.01 ERA. Wakefield was 5 games under .500. And Dice-K was Dice-Y getting smacked around by the lowly Orioles bench players in his last start, so the jury is still out on him. Papelbon will be closing if Theo knows what's good for him, leaving a very suspect Lester or J.Pin to fill up the rest of this supposedly stellar rotation.
[QUOTE="bunchofpixels"][QUOTE="XxMa5icarxX"][QUOTE="bunchofpixels"][QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]At this point in spring training I would say the BoSox. Schilling, Becket, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, looks like a good line and they're pitching phenomenol so far, of course its still the pre-season but thats my pick. dru26
Schilling and Wakefield are well past their prime, in their 40s and due to breakdown. Beckett was awful in the Americal league last year leading MLB in HRs given up per 9 innings, Matsuzaka is unproven and a questionmark (Irabu was highly touted as well), and Papelbon is very good as a closer but was shaky towards the end of the year in big spots. I would say the Yankees easily have the best rotation. Outside of Wang and Rivera the Yankees easily have nothing.Proctor? Bruney? Vizcaino(sp)? Who do the Sox still got Timlin:lol:So you are saying the Yankees have a better starting rotation than the Red Sox. Dont be a homer. Absolutely, Wang won 19 games last year, led the AL with ground ball outs,and was the second runner up to the Cy Young award. Mussina had the same record as Schilling with a half a run lower ERA, while giving up 10 less HRs, and he's the Yanks 3rd starter. Speaking of homers Mr.Beckett led MLB with a staggering 36 given up, while pitching to a lofty 5.01 ERA. Wakefield was 5 games under .500. And Dice-K was Dice-Y getting smacked around by the lowly Orioles bench players in his last start, so the jury is still out on him. Papelbon will be closing if Theo knows what's good for him, leaving a very suspect Lester or J.Pin to fill up the rest of this supposedly stellar rotation. That was brilliant. You should be a sports analyst. You just made the Sox rotation seem so weak compared to how it looks on paper which is the truth. Don't get me wrong I want the Sox rotation to be as good as people think it might be but I have my doubts, can Papelbon pitch 200 innings when he barely pitched over 70 last season, can Beckett have an era lower then 5 when he is clearly just a thrower, can Schilling win another 15 games, can Wakefield return to being Wakefield with that rib problem, who is going to close games, can D-Mat pitch in the big leagues consistently, the list goes on and on.
if mike hampton is healthy i think it would be the braves. ss5rmp
I would agree, but Hampton got hurt the other day and will be out for atleast another month or two. So with that in mind, we really only have Smoltz to rely on. Hudson has not yet pitched like he did in Oakland several years ago and James is going into his second year. Davies can be really good, but then he can be really bad (horrible). I think Redman was an "ok" pickup, but I don't expect much from him.
All I know is our rotation is in better shape than our division foe, the Mets. I know it's not saying much, but still.
Angels all the way! They have Lackey, Colon (who was hurt last year), Weaver, Santana, and Escobar! All those guys can throw it down and then you look at Shields and Rodriguez backing them up... it's just unfair!
I'm a Giants fan by the way so don't add me to your list of "guys that only pick their fave team."
[QUOTE="ss5rmp"]if mike hampton is healthy i think it would be the braves. Ngamer05
I would agree, but Hampton got hurt the other day and will be out for atleast another month or two. So with that in mind, we really only have Smoltz to rely on. Hudson has not yet pitched like he did in Oakland several years ago and James is going into his second year. Davies can be really good, but then he can be really bad (horrible). I think Redman was an "ok" pickup, but I don't expect much from him.
All I know is our rotation is in better shape than our division foe, the Mets. I know it's not saying much, but still.
bullpen is much better also. redman is only there for the begginning until hampton gets back.
We still don't know what the cubs are capable of if Prior and Wood staty healthy for a year. And it now seems that Zambrano is better than either one. 20 wins each, while not likely, is not impossible
We still don't know what the cubs are capable of if Prior and Wood staty healthy for a year. And it now seems that Zambrano is better than either one. 20 wins each, while not likely, is not impossibleCamble
wood will be in the bullpen and prior isnt even hitting 90mph in spring training...i doubt theyll stay healthy but they do sound good on paper.
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