Who is the most underrated QB of all time?

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#1 monkeytoes61
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I would go with Kenny Stabler. People forget that he was pretty good, a SB champion, and was part of many memorable plays (Sea of Hands, Ghost to the Post, etc.) Warren Moon takes second. When you add his statistics from the NFL and CFL, he threw for over 70,000 yards in his career. I also give a nod to Ken Anderson. He held the record for completion % in a season before Brees broke it last year, was an NFL MVP, and was the first QB to run Bill Walsh's West Coast Offense.

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Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

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Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

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I agree with this statement so much, I wish I got to see him play during his time and as an African-American I feel glad that he's in the HOF but he never gets recognition just like Doug Williams who won a SB against a John Elway led Broncos team. Jeff Garcia is pretty underrated too.

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Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

Don't get me wrong, i like warren moon but he played in the run and shoot. That is the same offense that the universit y of Houston plays and is very similar to the offense Texas Tech runs, which is a straight GUNNING offense. You throw the ball 50 times a game on the regular. You better put up good numbers with that many attempts. Anyway, my vote goes to Steve Young. He was never able to truly showcase his talents until he was 30 years old because of his time in the USFL and the fact he had to back up Montana. Hell he was a first ballot HOF and he was only the first string qb for 9 years (one year w/ Tampa where they sucked, and his last yr in SF where he only played 3 games).
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

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I agree with this statement so much, I wish I got to see him play during his time and as an African-American I feel glad that he's in the HOF but he never gets recognition just like Doug Williams who won a SB against a John Elway led Broncos team. Jeff Garcia is pretty underrated too.

To be fair Doug Williams wasn't even the starting qb for the skins, Jay Schroeder was. He started 2 games of the reg season that yr and that was it. Schroeder was banged up (although was healthy enough to play in the playoffs) at the end of the year, but Gibbs thought a healthy Williams was better than Schroeder at 80-85%, and he was right. If he was the starter the whole year, and had been a good qb prior to that, he would get more respect. But he was an avg qb his entier career before and after that yr. He falls into the Jeff Hostetller category. A backup qb who didn't play much all year, who went on a hell of a run, culminating in a super bowl. Nothing wrong with having that one year, or one postseason, to hang your hat on, but i think he gets the proper amount of credit. He gets the recognition for being the only black qb to win a SB, but he didn't have the type of career overall to warrant much else.

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[QUOTE="flowersjf"]

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

sixringz1

I agree with this statement so much, I wish I got to see him play during his time and as an African-American I feel glad that he's in the HOF but he never gets recognition just like Doug Williams who won a SB against a John Elway led Broncos team. Jeff Garcia is pretty underrated too.

To be fair Doug Williams wasn't even the starting qb for the skins, Jay Schroeder was. He started 2 games of the reg season that yr and that was it. Schroeder was banged up (although was healthy enough to play in the playoffs) at the end of the year, but Gibbs thought a healthy Williams was better than Schroeder at 80-85%, and he was right. If he was the starter the whole year, and had been a good qb prior to that, he would get more respect. But he was an avg qb his entier career before and after that yr. He falls into the Jeff Hostetller category. A backup qb who didn't play much all year, who went on a hell of a run, culminating in a super bowl. Nothing wrong with having that one year, or one postseason, to hang your hat on, but i think he gets the proper amount of credit. He gets the recognition for being the only black qb to win a SB, but he didn't have the type of career overall to warrant much else.

That's true, way to correct my errors. I remember watching Americas Game on NFL Network talking about that Redskins team led by Doug Williams and how he was starting one week and benched the next because of Jay Schroders injuries and inconsistent play.
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I'm partial to Rich Gannon. I loved him as a Raider.
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Philip Rivers.
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Aaron Rodgers

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Aaron Rodgers

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lol Not anymore, ESPN and NFL Network won't stop making articles about him all of a sudden. He's a beast but he won't win the NFC North as long as Brett's still around. :)
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[QUOTE="sixringz1"]

[QUOTE="flowersjf"] I agree with this statement so much, I wish I got to see him play during his time and as an African-American I feel glad that he's in the HOF but he never gets recognition just like Doug Williams who won a SB against a John Elway led Broncos team. Jeff Garcia is pretty underrated too.

flowersjf

To be fair Doug Williams wasn't even the starting qb for the skins, Jay Schroeder was. He started 2 games of the reg season that yr and that was it. Schroeder was banged up (although was healthy enough to play in the playoffs) at the end of the year, but Gibbs thought a healthy Williams was better than Schroeder at 80-85%, and he was right. If he was the starter the whole year, and had been a good qb prior to that, he would get more respect. But he was an avg qb his entier career before and after that yr. He falls into the Jeff Hostetller category. A backup qb who didn't play much all year, who went on a hell of a run, culminating in a super bowl. Nothing wrong with having that one year, or one postseason, to hang your hat on, but i think he gets the proper amount of credit. He gets the recognition for being the only black qb to win a SB, but he didn't have the type of career overall to warrant much else.

That's true, way to correct my errors. I remember watching Americas Game on NFL Network talking about that Redskins team led by Doug Williams and how he was starting one week and benched the next because of Jay Schroders injuries and inconsistent play.

I saw that he played well in relief of Schroder, but bad when he started. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d81113398/Top-Ten-QB-Controversies-Williams-vs-Schroeder
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[QUOTE="flowersjf"][QUOTE="sixringz1"] To be fair Doug Williams wasn't even the starting qb for the skins, Jay Schroeder was. He started 2 games of the reg season that yr and that was it. Schroeder was banged up (although was healthy enough to play in the playoffs) at the end of the year, but Gibbs thought a healthy Williams was better than Schroeder at 80-85%, and he was right. If he was the starter the whole year, and had been a good qb prior to that, he would get more respect. But he was an avg qb his entier career before and after that yr. He falls into the Jeff Hostetller category. A backup qb who didn't play much all year, who went on a hell of a run, culminating in a super bowl. Nothing wrong with having that one year, or one postseason, to hang your hat on, but i think he gets the proper amount of credit. He gets the recognition for being the only black qb to win a SB, but he didn't have the type of career overall to warrant much else.

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That's true, way to correct my errors. I remember watching Americas Game on NFL Network talking about that Redskins team led by Doug Williams and how he was starting one week and benched the next because of Jay Schroders injuries and inconsistent play.

I saw that he played well in relief of Schroder, but bad when he started. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d81113398/Top-Ten-QB-Controversies-Williams-vs-Schroeder

either way he wasn't the first string qb and that's the misconception. People think since he won the SB he was the primary qb the whole year and that's simply not the case

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="flowersjf"] That's true, way to correct my errors. I remember watching Americas Game on NFL Network talking about that Redskins team led by Doug Williams and how he was starting one week and benched the next because of Jay Schroders injuries and inconsistent play.sixringz1

I saw that he played well in relief of Schroder, but bad when he started. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d81113398/Top-Ten-QB-Controversies-Williams-vs-Schroeder

either way he wasn't the first string qb and that's the misconception. People think since he won the SB he was the primary qb the whole year and that's simply not the case

Yeah I knew he wasn't a primary starter and was in a way a one-hit wonder but I just feel like he's sort of overlooked in some ways but you're statements are true about him though. But don't forget he had one of the most amazing SB performances of all time. 18-29, 340 yards, and 4 touchdowns.
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[QUOTE="flowersjf"][QUOTE="sixringz1"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"] I saw that he played well in relief of Schroder, but bad when he started. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d81113398/Top-Ten-QB-Controversies-Williams-vs-Schroeder

either way he wasn't the first string qb and that's the misconception. People think since he won the SB he was the primary qb the whole year and that's simply not the case

Yeah I knew he wasn't a primary starter and was in a way a one-hit wonder but I just feel like he's sort of overlooked in some ways but you're statements are true about him though. But don't forget he had one of the most amazing SB performances of all time. 18-29, 340 yards, and 4 touchdowns.

absolutely. And even more less known is the fact that timmy smith, the redskins rb, ran for something like 210 yds that game which is still a sb record. You want to talk about a one hit wonder. At least Williams was in the league for 10 years and had a nice postseason run, my man timmy smith had ONE good game, he just picked a hell of a stage to have it. He played like 2-3 years in the league and had 600 TOTAL rushing yds not counting that SB. Looking back i guess everybody had a field day on that Broncos D that Super Bowl
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Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers are NOT underrated.

I wouldve went with Drew Brees last year, but now that he got a super bowl ring, Brees is getting his credit.

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I'm partial to Rich Gannon. I loved him as a Raider.Not-A-Stalker
same here

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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

Warren Moon by far, he was so ahead of his time. Just a pity that teams didn't care about him because of skin color:(

flowersjf

I agree with this statement so much, I wish I got to see him play during his time and as an African-American I feel glad that he's in the HOF but he never gets recognition just like Doug Williams who won a SB against a John Elway led Broncos team. Jeff Garcia is pretty underrated too.

I agree with you both. Moon was a beast! Also, good call on Jeff Garcia. He has been solid everywhere he has gone but keeps getting the shaft!

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[QUOTE="flowersjf"][QUOTE="sixringz1"] either way he wasn't the first string qb and that's the misconception. People think since he won the SB he was the primary qb the whole year and that's simply not the case

sixringz1

Yeah I knew he wasn't a primary starter and was in a way a one-hit wonder but I just feel like he's sort of overlooked in some ways but you're statements are true about him though. But don't forget he had one of the most amazing SB performances of all time. 18-29, 340 yards, and 4 touchdowns.

absolutely. And even more less known is the fact that timmy smith, the redskins rb, ran for something like 210 yds that game which is still a sb record. You want to talk about a one hit wonder. At least Williams was in the league for 10 years and had a nice postseason run, my man timmy smith had ONE good game, he just picked a hell of a stage to have it. He played like 2-3 years in the league and had 600 TOTAL rushing yds not counting that SB. Looking back i guess everybody had a field day on that Broncos D that Super Bowl

haha That's so true, they won another Super Bowl in 1991 as well with Mark Rypien at QB. haha Ive never seen a franchise play musical chairs at QB so well and still win Super Bowls.

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Trent Green. Although, most great Chiefs players are underrated.