why do people underestimate the redskins?

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#1 surrealnumber5
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after the cowboys game it was easy to see that they were better then the boys, and the boys are better then the eagles so why did the world pick the eagles to beat the redskins????

any who another upset win maybe now people will stop hating the skins

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#2 mrgab
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Was expecting a redskin post, surprised so late. So now, wheres the Falcon one?
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#3 Gamer556
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Most people considered the Redskins a fluke, and it's tough to win back-to-back divisional games on the road, especially in this division. I don't think anyone will be calling them a fluke anymore.
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#4 gatorforlife07
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I've always respected the Redskins
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#5 Jaysonguy
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another upset win maybe now people will stop hating the skins

surrealnumber5

Great job answering yourself?

If you have an UPSET win then you weren't a FAVORITE to win the game

Since you called it an upset that means you weren't planning on them winning either.

The team has some very good parts, the question is how long the glue will last

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The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

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The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

nygiants1080

Giants have only played one real game so far.

Redskins are much more tested then the Giants at this point of the season.

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#8 nygiants1080
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[QUOTE="nygiants1080"]

The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

Jaysonguy

Giants have only played one real game so far.

Redskins are much more tested then the Giants at this point of the season.

I can't disagree. But you gotta admit, they look damn good doing it ;)

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#9 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="nygiants1080"]

The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

nygiants1080

Giants have only played one real game so far.

Redskins are much more tested then the Giants at this point of the season.

I can't disagree. But you gotta admit, they look damn good doing it ;)

Oh yeah they do

As I said in my (first wrong then edited) undefeated thread, they're not able to clikc all the way. I don't know if there's some things they have to work out or they're just trying not to score Patriotesqe numbers on teams.

We'll see once they face harder competition.

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#10 nygiants1080
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Oh yeah they do

As I said in my (first wrong then edited) undefeated thread, they're not able to clikc all the way. I don't know if there's some things they have to work out or they're just trying not to score Patriotesqe numbers on teams.

We'll see once they face harder competition.

Jaysonguy

It's usually from the bad offensive play calling. It's very generic. It's usually run, run, pass.

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#11 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

another upset win maybe now people will stop hating the skins

Jaysonguy

Great job answering yourself?

If you have an UPSET win then you weren't a FAVORITE to win the game

Since you called it an upset that means you weren't planning on them winning either.

The team has some very good parts, the question is how long the glue will last

i should have put upset in quotation i was more so referring to fox sports espn even this board all had the redskins getting handled

after last weeks game i called this one for the skins and i said it would be easy as we dominated 3/4ths of the game it was easy and not only beat the eagles but the reffs too

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The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

nygiants1080

well it will last for atleast the next 4 weeks because their opponents are a combined 1-10 so we'll see in about 5 weeks if it will hold together or not

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Maybe because the Redskins haven't won anything in a few years? I think even the worst of NFL pundits gave up a while ago as the Redskins would amass a pot luck of good free agent players and then underperform. They're just one of those teams that is going to have to establish itself a while before they get a ton of respect.
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#14 Kentb808
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I respect the Redskins, they are a good team, even though they beat the Eagles. I'm just mad at the Eagles for allowing 23 unanswered points.
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It's funny because after game 1 they were bashed for laughing on the sidelines and looking like they didn't care. I guess all those analysts are noobs who expected them to suck again.
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#16 swamprat_basic
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First impressions. Everybody watched the first game of the season, and the Redskins looked like crap.
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Maybe because the Redskins haven't won anything in a few years? I think even the worst of NFL pundits gave up a while ago as the Redskins would amass a pot luck of good free agent players and then underperform. They're just one of those teams that is going to have to establish itself a while before they get a ton of respect.duxup

This is a major part of it, but there is also the fact that they seem to be an up and down team. Last year they started 4-1, ended 9-7. The year before that they were 5-11. The year before that 10-6. Before that, 6-10. They are a very inconsistant team. So which team will show up this year?

And sure they play the NFC East tough, but that happens in every division. The Texans almost beat the Jags last week and the Colts yesterday... that same team, with starting QB Matt Schaub got crushed by the Steelers week 1. So out of division games tell alot about the team because interdivisional games don't always show how a team is going to perform as they tend to overperform agains their interdivisional rivals.

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#18 Ray2259
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as a cowboys fan i'm never really conditioned to respect them

and will always consider them a fluke.

HOWEVER i will admit J.Campbell is playing exceptionally well.. and portis is getting it done on the ground.. he will eventually become worn down as the season progresses(like he always does) he'll prorbly get injured midseason.. and then campbell will most likely fold...

but i figured they'd be the eagles though

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[QUOTE="nygiants1080"]

The Giants won the super bowl and people still said they'd finish 3rd at best in the NFC East...now look at them.

Jaysonguy

Giants have only played one real game so far.

Redskins are much more tested then the Giants at this point of the season.

Thank you!!! Wait unti the G-Men come to Fedex They will get Punished by the Skins now.

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#20 Screw_Ball08
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as a cowboys fan i'm never really conditioned to respect them

and will always consider them a fluke.

HOWEVER i will admit J.Campbell is playing exceptionally well.. and portis is getting it done on the ground.. he will eventually become worn down as the season progresses(like he always does) he'll prorbly get injured midseason.. and then campbell will most likely fold...

but i figured they'd be the eagles though

Ray2259

Come on man as a Cowboys fan you are. please don't start wishing for injuries on the Skins. Don't worry the boys will get whooped againg when they come to Fedex. And you are also forgetting the Skins are deep at running back. Ledell betts is basicly a #1 caliber back. The Skins were smart and locked him up for 5 years as there #2.

Also keep in mind This is not the Gibbs conservitive style this is Zorin going for the jugglear all game now.

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#21 Ray2259
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[QUOTE="Ray2259"]

as a cowboys fan i'm never really conditioned to respect them

and will always consider them a fluke.

HOWEVER i will admit J.Campbell is playing exceptionally well.. and portis is getting it done on the ground.. he will eventually become worn down as the season progresses(like he always does) he'll prorbly get injured midseason.. and then campbell will most likely fold...

but i figured they'd be the eagles though

Screw_Ball08

Come on man as a Cowboys fan you are. please don't start wishing for injuries on the Skins. Don't worry the boys will get whooped againg when they come to Fedex. And you are also forgetting the Skins are deep at running back. Ledell betts is basicly a #1 caliber back. The Skins were smart and locked him up for 5 years as there #2.

Also keep in mind This is not the Gibbs conservitive style this is Zorin going for the jugglear all game now.

i'm not wishing ill on portis.. but he has been getting loose... as well as he does with contact he usually gets a nick during the season

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[QUOTE="duxup"]Maybe because the Redskins haven't won anything in a few years? I think even the worst of NFL pundits gave up a while ago as the Redskins would amass a pot luck of good free agent players and then underperform. They're just one of those teams that is going to have to establish itself a while before they get a ton of respect.LOEAnubis

This is a major part of it, but there is also the fact that they seem to be an up and down team. Last year they started 4-1, ended 9-7. The year before that they were 5-11. The year before that 10-6. Before that, 6-10. They are a very inconsistant team. So which team will show up this year?

And sure they play the NFC East tough, but that happens in every division. The Texans almost beat the Jags last week and the Colts yesterday... that same team, with starting QB Matt Schaub got crushed by the Steelers week 1. So out of division games tell alot about the team because interdivisional games don't always show how a team is going to perform as they tend to overperform agains their interdivisional rivals.

Well you must remeber they had some QB issues going on. Between Brunell and Campbell and Todd Colins. And throw in the conseritive style of Gibbs and yeah it made them inconsisitent. But I truly think this new bread of Skins is much better and much more agreesive and lethel.

Also people always want to talk bad about the Skins. Gibbs did get them in the playoofs 2 times in his 4 years. And they even won a playoof game one year. Look at a team like the Cowboys they have not even won a playoof game in like what 10 years or something?

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[QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Maybe because the Redskins haven't won anything in a few years? I think even the worst of NFL pundits gave up a while ago as the Redskins would amass a pot luck of good free agent players and then underperform. They're just one of those teams that is going to have to establish itself a while before they get a ton of respect.Screw_Ball08

This is a major part of it, but there is also the fact that they seem to be an up and down team. Last year they started 4-1, ended 9-7. The year before that they were 5-11. The year before that 10-6. Before that, 6-10. They are a very inconsistant team. So which team will show up this year?

And sure they play the NFC East tough, but that happens in every division. The Texans almost beat the Jags last week and the Colts yesterday... that same team, with starting QB Matt Schaub got crushed by the Steelers week 1. So out of division games tell alot about the team because interdivisional games don't always show how a team is going to perform as they tend to overperform agains their interdivisional rivals.

Well you must remeber they had some QB issues going on. Between Brunell and Campbell and Todd Colins. And throw in the conseritive style of Gibbs and yeah it made them inconsisitent. But I truly think this new bread of Skins is much better and much more agreesive and lethel.

Also people always want to talk bad about the Skins. Gibbs did get them in the playoofs 2 times in his 4 years. And they even won a playoof game one year. Look at a team like the Cowboys they have not even won a playoof game in like what 10 years or something?

That doesn't matter... QB issues, RB issues, WR issues... all of the good teams have fought through it. The Redskins are streakish and are not a consistant team.

You bring up the Cowboys... the Redskins may have a playoff win more recently, but the Cowboys are a more consistant team. Look at the last ten years side by side

Washington Redskins

1998 6-10 4th NFC East
1999 10-6 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2000 8-8 3rd NFC East
2001 8-8 2nd NFC East
2002 7-9 3rd NFC East
2003 5-11 3rd NFC East
2004 6-10 4th NFC East
2005 10-6 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2006 5-11 4th NFC East
2007 9-7 3rd NFC East (Made Playoffs)

74 - 86 Overall Last 10 Years
Made Playoffs 3 Times
Won Division 1 Time

Dallas Cowboys

1998 10-6 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)
1999 8-8 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2000 5-11 4th NFC East
2001 5-11 5th NFC East
2002 5-11 4th NFC East
2003 10-6 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2004 6-10 3nd NFC East
2005 9-7 3rd NFC East
2006 9-7 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2007 13-3 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)

80 - 80 Overall Last 10 Years
Made Playoffs 5 Times
Won Division 2 Times

So while thier records may be similar, you can see that the Cowboys have done better overall. Sure, the Skins have two playoff wins, but look at who the Cowboys lost to.

1998 - Cardnials (The only so-so team on the list)
1999 - Vikings (Best record in football that year)
2003 - Panthers (Eventual NFC Champions)
2006 - Seahawks (Eventual NFC Champions)
2007 - Giants (Super Bowl Champions)

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#24 Screw_Ball08
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[QUOTE="Screw_Ball08"][QUOTE="LOEAnubis"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Maybe because the Redskins haven't won anything in a few years? I think even the worst of NFL pundits gave up a while ago as the Redskins would amass a pot luck of good free agent players and then underperform. They're just one of those teams that is going to have to establish itself a while before they get a ton of respect.LOEAnubis

This is a major part of it, but there is also the fact that they seem to be an up and down team. Last year they started 4-1, ended 9-7. The year before that they were 5-11. The year before that 10-6. Before that, 6-10. They are a very inconsistant team. So which team will show up this year?

And sure they play the NFC East tough, but that happens in every division. The Texans almost beat the Jags last week and the Colts yesterday... that same team, with starting QB Matt Schaub got crushed by the Steelers week 1. So out of division games tell alot about the team because interdivisional games don't always show how a team is going to perform as they tend to overperform agains their interdivisional rivals.

Well you must remeber they had some QB issues going on. Between Brunell and Campbell and Todd Colins. And throw in the conseritive style of Gibbs and yeah it made them inconsisitent. But I truly think this new bread of Skins is much better and much more agreesive and lethel.

Also people always want to talk bad about the Skins. Gibbs did get them in the playoofs 2 times in his 4 years. And they even won a playoof game one year. Look at a team like the Cowboys they have not even won a playoof game in like what 10 years or something?

That doesn't matter... QB issues, RB issues, WR issues... all of the good teams have fought through it. The Redskins are streakish and are not a consistant team.

You bring up the Cowboys... the Redskins may have a playoff win more recently, but the Cowboys are a more consistant team. Look at the last ten years side by side

Washington Redskins

1998 6-10 4th NFC East
1999 10-6 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2000 8-8 3rd NFC East
2001 8-8 2nd NFC East
2002 7-9 3rd NFC East
2003 5-11 3rd NFC East
2004 6-10 4th NFC East
2005 10-6 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2006 5-11 4th NFC East
2007 9-7 3rd NFC East (Made Playoffs)

74 - 86 Overall Last 10 Years
Made Playoffs 3 Times
Won Division 1 Time

Dallas Cowboys

1998 10-6 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)
1999 8-8 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2000 5-11 4th NFC East
2001 5-11 5th NFC East
2002 5-11 4th NFC East
2003 10-6 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2004 6-10 3nd NFC East
2005 9-7 3rd NFC East
2006 9-7 2nd NFC East (Made Playoffs)
2007 13-3 1st NFC East (Made Playoffs)

80 - 80 Overall Last 10 Years
Made Playoffs 5 Times
Won Division 2 Times

So while thier records may be similar, you can see that the Cowboys have done better overall. Sure, the Skins have two playoff wins, but look at who the Cowboys lost to.

1998 - Cardnials (The only so-so team on the list)
1999 - Vikings (Best record in football that year)
2003 - Panthers (Eventual NFC Champions)
2006 - Seahawks (Eventual NFC Champions)
2007 - Giants (Super Bowl Champions)

It's kind of a WASH if you ask me. They both have had some inconsistent seasons. And yeah Dallas make the playoofs 2 more time 5-3 but the Skins have a playoff victory so it's kind of a wash.

Also lets remeber Skins have Dan Snyder a rookie if owning a sports team so yeah the past 10 years have been a bit up and down. but I think now he's made his first good moves. With going with the draft and seemingley a great hire in zoren and not messing things up with the rest of the team. So things are looking on the up and up for the Skins. For the next 10 years it seems.

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It's kind of a WASH if you ask me. They both have had some inconsistent seasons. And yeah Dallas make the playoofs 2 more time 5-3 but the Skins have a playoff victory so it's kind of a wash.

Also lets remeber Skins have Dan Snyder a rookie if owning a sports team so yeah the past 10 years have been a bit up and down. but I think now he's made his first good moves. With going with the draft and seemingley a great hire in zoren and not messing things up with the rest of the team. So things are looking on the up and up for the Skins. For the next 10 years it seems.

Screw_Ball08

How in the world is that a wash? Stop making excuses when there are facts in front of you. If you want, go back another 10 years. They were 86 - 74... that puts them at .500 over the past twenty years. Sure, you add three more playoff appearances and a Super Bowl win... but then look at the Cowboys.

The Cowboys went 87 - 73. Better than the Redskins, above .500 and it adds six more playoff appearances and THREE Superbowl wins.

Still a wash?

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#26 Los9090
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Well the 'Skins have been inconsistint. I really hated them back with the whoel "JetSkins" fiasco (I'm a Jets fan obviously) and I was happy to see them suffer for a few years. Now that that is all over, its pretty cool to see Washington looking really serious now.
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#27 DLateral
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I never underestimated the Redskins they have the kind of team that could make it into the playoffs.