Why does Oklahoma get to play in title game? Why not USC?

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other but I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other put I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other put I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

sixringz1

I guess thats fair seeing as they play a better conference but I still feel like USC is the better team after seeing them destroy Ohio State earlier in the year.

For the most part I like the match up of USC playing penn state but now that I've had some more time to think it over I think USC should play Alabama considering that when USC played Ohio State they beat them by 30 points or so but when Penn State beat Ohio State they only beat them by 7 or so. Of course that is if USC isn't going to play Florida for the title which they are not so.

To answer some of your questions about the system:

USC didn't play as strong a schedule as Oklahoma or Florida, so they got passed up on.

Neither Boise State nor Utah is a BCS conference, so only one was going to be given a BCS game. Utah was ranked higher.

Ohio St. gets in because the Big Ten and SEC receive two automatic bids as long as they have two teams ranked above 14.

Penn St. plays USC because the Big Ten champion and the Pac Ten champion go to the Rose Bowl unless one or both to the title game. In that circumstance, second place in the conference goes to the Rose Bowl.

Texas Tech was left out because no conference can have more than two teams in BCS games. Texas was ranked lower than Oklahoma prior to the Big 12 title game, and retained that ranking by beating Missouri.

It is a lousy system in need of a playoff, but there is a method to the madness.

USC can beat anyteam in the country and I would have loved to see USC Florida match up.. You got the best talent from the east against the best talent from the west..

I dont wanna hear about the BIg 12 being a strong conference.. TTU is wack!! Product of playing against teams with no defense.. Other then the conference is just as bad as the PAC 10.. The Big 12 has 2 good teams, and the PAC 10 has 1 thats not the big of a differnce..

USC lost to Or State thats what it comes down too.. One bad quarter of football keeps them out of the championship..

Other points agree, USC disagree, i'm a trojan fan and they blow it every year by losing to chumps from the Pac-10.X360PS3AMD05

They lost one game. Even Florida lost one game and it was to one of the weaker teams in the SEC. USC should be playing them instead of Oklahoma.

USC lost to Oregon State. Oklahoma lost to Texas. That is why.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Other points agree, USC disagree, i'm a trojan fan and they blow it every year by losing to chumps from the Pac-10.odin2019

They lost one game. Even Florida lost one game and it was to one of the weaker teams in the SEC. USC should be playing them instead of Oklahoma.

Oklahoma lost to the better football team that USC lost to. Honestly.jharv

That may be but you put you put oklahoma against USC and USC is gonna win. I'm wondering right now just how close Penn State will make the game if they even can make it close.

I tell you what so that away we don't run into this problem again is how about Oklahoma schedule a regular season game against USC. I guarantee that if they were to play for the next 5 years of that game USC would win at least 3 if not 4 of those games. Find out just how much of a power house Oklahoma claims to be because I don't see it.

If Ohio State didn't play USC this year they only have one loss.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Other points agree, USC disagree, i'm a trojan fan and they blow it every year by losing to chumps from the Pac-10.BLBxLakers24

They lost one game. Even Florida lost one game and it was to one of the weaker teams in the SEC. USC should be playing them instead of Oklahoma.

Yeah I guess you got a point seeing as they won quite a few games and beat some good teams. However, I still don't consider them the 4th best team in the SEC even though they might look that way as of now.

USC plays a terribly weak conference schedule compared to OU or Florida, lost a game to a weak Oregon State team, and struggled in a few other games. They shouldn't be there.

Also, comparing scores is a terrible way to decide who is better than who. USC beat OSU by more than PSU did.. that's nice.. but that doesn't mean USC is automatically going to beat PSU. With that offense, it would be very hard for USC to blow out PSU.

USC plays a terribly weak conference schedule compared to OU or Florida, lost a game to a weak Oregon State team, and struggled in a few other games. They shouldn't be there.

Also, comparing scores is a terrible way to decide who is better than who. USC beat OSU by more than PSU did.. that's nice.. but that doesn't mean USC is automatically going to beat PSU. With that offense, it would be very hard for USC to blow out PSU.

GamerForca

USC plays a terribly weak conference schedule compared to OU or Florida, lost a game to a weak Oregon State team, and struggled in a few other games. They shouldn't be there.

Also, comparing scores is a terrible way to decide who is better than who. USC beat OSU by more than PSU did.. that's nice.. but that doesn't mean USC is automatically going to beat PSU. With that offense, it would be very hard for USC to blow out PSU.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]

USC plays a terribly weak conference schedule compared to OU or Florida, lost a game to a weak Oregon State team, and struggled in a few other games. They shouldn't be there.

Also, comparing scores is a terrible way to decide who is better than who. USC beat OSU by more than PSU did.. that's nice.. but that doesn't mean USC is automatically going to beat PSU. With that offense, it would be very hard for USC to blow out PSU.

GamerForca

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="GamerForca"]

USC plays a terribly weak conference schedule compared to OU or Florida, lost a game to a weak Oregon State team, and struggled in a few other games. They shouldn't be there.

Also, comparing scores is a terrible way to decide who is better than who. USC beat OSU by more than PSU did.. that's nice.. but that doesn't mean USC is automatically going to beat PSU. With that offense, it would be very hard for USC to blow out PSU.

GamerForca

You can't compare OU and Florida's schedule either or else why isn't Alabama playing Florida again since they had the better schedule? I wouldn't be too surprised if USC did beat Penn by 20 or more. Although I think USC and Penn is a good match up I would rather see USC and Florida and if you won't give me that game at least give me USC and Alabama.

I still see Alabama as the #2 team in the nation since they were number one when they played florida and florida had one loss before the alabama game and was rated 2.

USC can beat anyteam in the country and I would have loved to see USC Florida match up.. You got the best talent from the east against the best talent from the west..

I dont wanna hear about the BIg 12 being a strong conference.. TTU is wack!! Product of playing against teams with no defense.. Other then the conference is just as bad as the PAC 10.. The Big 12 has 2 good teams, and the PAC 10 has 1 thats not the big of a differnce..

USC lost to Or State thats what it comes down too.. One bad quarter of football keeps them out of the championship..

BLBxLakers24

[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="waynehead895"] USC's Defense isn't no slouch. Projecting 5 first round picks from that D alone. Just cheked and USC is No.1 in YDS allowed and Points allowed. Sounds like the No. 1 D imo.odin2019

You can't compare OU and Florida's schedule either or else why isn't Alabama playing Florida again since they had the better schedule? I wouldn't be too surprised if USC did beat Penn by 20 or more. Although I think USC and Penn is a good match up I would rather see USC and Florida and if you won't give me that game at least give me USC and Alabama.

I still see Alabama as the #2 team in the nation since they were number one when they played florida and florida had one loss before the alabama game and was rated 2.

USC offense is average? lmao that Offense is one of the best in CF.. Do you not watch SC, or anything.. They said No one want to play USC.. USC has not had comp in the Pac 10 in a while, but they still win just about every bowl there in..BLBxLakers24

Who said "No one want to play USC"? And what does USC winning their bowl games in the past have to do with this year's USC team? Ok, they scored 35 against OSU.. what else? 21 against an Oregon State team that gave up 60+ to Oregon? lol wut? 17 against Arizona and Cal? 28 against UCLA? These are Pac-10 opponents!

You can't compare OU and Florida's schedule either or else why isn't Alabama playing Florida again since they had the better schedule? I wouldn't be too surprised if USC did beat Penn by 20 or more. Although I think USC and Penn is a good match up I would rather see USC and Florida and if you won't give me that game at least give me USC and Alabama.

I still see Alabama as the #2 team in the nation since they were number one when they played florida and florida had one loss before the alabama game and was rated 2.

odin2019

Bama isn't playing Florida again because they didn't win their conference.. otherwise it sure would've been nice to see LSU/UGA last year.. I pretty much agree with the rest. Except USC shouldn't play in the NCG becuase they really don't deserve it over a 1-loss OU or Texas.. teams that played much tougher schedules.

Oklahoma will beat Florida anywaytmac200913

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other but I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

odin2019

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other but I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

Boston_Boyy

So for Texas Tech wins and losses are based on points now for what position they get in a bowl game? What I mean is they got beat by 44 points so they automatically don't get to play in a big bowl game yet they had a much tougher schedule than Boise and Utah. At least I know Boise might play well hell go ahead put them against Oklahoma again and we will see who wins.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other but I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

Boston_Boyy

Pitt wasn't deserving of that game, and it was no surprise that Utah won that game. And if I remember correctly that was with Alex Smith at QB and Urban Meyer coaching.

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I don't see whats so great about Oklahoma and I think USC has the better team. Oklahoma isn't a bad team but I don't look at them as the number 2 team and simply think that they were put in the title game instead of USC so that away USC doesn't have to travel or florida doesn't have to travel.

Also, Boise State 12-0 and there not #2 or in the top 5 for that matter. I'm glad there not because they didn't play anybody.

And let me get this straight Alabama is gonna play Utah in their title....what are they trying to do? give the title to Alabama? I think Alabma should have a better opponent and I think Utah and boise state were made for each other.

I don't get this either Ohio State gets to play Texas but Texas Tech gets to play Ole Miss WTF? I can see why you wouldn't have Texas play Texas Tech again since they have already played each other but I think Texas Tech deserves a much better opponent and I think Alabama against them would make for a much better match up.

geaux321

Pitt wasn't deserving of that game, and it was no surprise that Utah won that game. And if I remember correctly that was with Alex Smith at QB and Urban Meyer coaching.

Hmm. Well, Boise State beat Oregon, at their home stadium. Oregon beat Oregon State, at their home stadium. Oregon State beat USC. By your logic, Boise State, who didn't play anybody, should be playing for the national championship. Since, by the mathematical law of transitivity, they beat USC. Your logic is flawed because it is based on who you "think" is good. Which, frankly, puts it about on par of the logic for all of college football. A playoff system is needed so badly it is physically painful to any fan of the sport who isn't more than a casual observer.nocoolnamejim

Your putting words in my mouth by saying that my logic says that Boise State should be in the championship game. I said USC and Florida should be in the game. Boise State ought to be playing Utah since they seem about even in my opinion and if they don't play Utah put them against Oklahoma. And it would be absurd to put boise state in the title game. For all that matters everyones logic is flawed because its all based on opinion according to what your posting and I agree a playoff is needed.

I would prefer a playoff with the top 16 teams even though I think Georgia could beat half the teams in the top 16.

Oklahoma will beat Florida anywaytmac200913

Compare them on paper

Offense

OU puts up major points....against mediocre defenses at best

Florida puts a good amount of points against some of the best defenses in the country

Defense

OU again Big 12 defense is not the calling card of the conference

Florida steps up against the good offenses even though SEC offense was not the caliber typically seen

Special Teams

OU not so much

Florida probably the best unit in the game, I mean players fight to get on it

Other notes

Florida is the fastest team in college football perhaps ever and showed that running the ball to kill time wear them down wont work and i have serious doubts that OU will be able to win a passing game with the Gators. Oh ya and Tebow is playing. Bradford is good but no where near the player Tebow is.

I do realize the BCS system, its flaws, and would rather see someone, like USC, take on Florida rather than Oklahoma. I'm a Georgia Tech fan (student) and I believe we can blow the doors off of LSU at the Chick-Fil-A Bowl and get some more attention. Sadly, the win against Georgia seems to have been played off as a Georgia loss rather than a Tech win and hopefully the bowl win can show otherwise.

As for USC, one theory I've read on many articles is that this year's USC team may be the best of the past few years. Even though they don't have the stars like Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart, they are still the #14 Total Offense in the country, coupled with their #1 Defense, making them far from mediocre. Yes, USC lost to Oregon State. The halftime score of that game was 21-0, Oregon State, while the end game score was 33-31. If USC had capped off this great comeback with another field goal, we would have a different situtation on our hands. I feel sorry that one bad half of football away from home is enough for an upsetting end. Writers have said that USC is being punished this year for how overrated they have been the past few years, whereas they are finally an amazing team, but can't get any credit from anybody.

Overall, the Rose Bowl is an amazing honor and I hope to watch an amazing game between the Nittany Lions and the Trojans.

Cause USC only played 3 good teams and lost to one of them. It's not they're fault that the Pac-10 and Notre Dame sucked this year. But they blew it big time as they had easier schedule of the teams in the top-5.

Alabamba, Texas, and Texas Tech all had much harder games than USC.

I agree Boise State should be at least playing in a BCS bowl. I think it's retarded that Ohio State got a BCS bowl invite, do we have to watch them lose again? The Big-10 didn't deserve a second BCS bowl team. Big East and ACC suck, I rather have had Boise and Ball State play. It really sucks for non-BCS teams and for BCS conferences that are stacked with talent like the Big-12 and SEC.

LoserMike

Yeah, Michigan had no shot against Florida last year either, and everyone was right, the Gators steamrolled them....right? :Psith_acolyte15

Yeah, Michigan had no shot against Florida last year either, and everyone was right, the Gators steamrolled them....right? :Psith_acolyte15

[QUOTE="sith_acolyte15"]Yeah, Michigan had no shot against Florida last year either, and everyone was right, the Gators steamrolled them....right? :P7NINTENDO7

Whoever said UGA would beat most teams in that "top 16 playoff system", stop smoking crack. I am a UGA fan, but we already got steamrolled by Florida and Bama; the Tech loss was exactly what someone said earlier, a UGA loss, not a Tech win. UGA's defense has been slipping the last few years, and the only reason they were any good last year was because of Marcus Howard and Kelin Johnson. Their Defensive Coordinator needs to be heading out the door.

Now as for USC over Oklahoma, that is a joke (along the lines of BCS decisions). Who is to say a playoff wouldn't determine who is better? I would love to see one (UGA wouldn't have gotten stuck with Hawaii, and Bama wouldn't get stuck with Utah). But according to the BCS, it is all strength of schedule and margin of victory. Why is it any wonder that the BCS has the two teams that had no problem scoring 50+ points in most of their games all season, facing against each other? Not to mention, don't lose to an unranked team when you are #1.

Now for the OU beating Florida...i hope it happens, but good gracious. Did you watch what they did to Bama, WITHOUT HARVIN?! That offense will have no problem scoring against a porous OU defense. And trust me, OU has not seen a defense like they will against Florida. I hate Tebow and Meyer, but OU has to play defense, or else its another SEC National Championship.

The BCS is basically booked just like the WWE books it matches . they both want a match up that is going to make the most money and no one in college football wants a leigtment Title game

Agreed, on every aspect. Even if Penn State won out, they weren't going to go. Since there is no Pac10 or Big10 title game, they would basically have to go undefeated and hope for SEC and Big12 teams to lose 2 games to make the NC game. Is it fair? Absolutely! Stop being pansies and strengthen your schedule and there are no arguments. I am sorry, but beating teams like Cal, Stanford, UCLA, and other pansy Pa10 teams won't cut it. I'll give USC props for playing OSU, but look at the teams the SEC has to play every year. Until USC runs the table, they won't see another NC game, solely because of no Conference title game to bolster their quality of win. So if you are a Trojans fan, nothing less than perfection will cut it, and losing to a team that got DESTROYED by Penn State definitely won't cut it.

P.S. Stop losing to unranked teams!!!

Agreed, on every aspect. Even if Penn State won out, they weren't going to go. Since there is no Pac10 or Big10 title game, they would basically have to go undefeated and hope for SEC and Big12 teams to lose 2 games to make the NC game. Is it fair? Absolutely! Stop being pansies and strengthen your schedule and there are no arguments. I am sorry, but beating teams like Cal, Stanford, UCLA, and other pansy Pa10 teams won't cut it. I'll give USC props for playing OSU, but look at the teams the SEC has to play every year. Until USC runs the table, they won't see another NC game, solely because of no Conference title game to bolster their quality of win. So if you are a Trojans fan, nothing less than perfection will cut it, and losing to a team that got DESTROYED by Penn State definitely won't cut it.

P.S. Stop losing to unranked teams!!!

cheese318

Also Florida lost to an unranked team. It happens... especially when you play that team every year.