i miss the good old final fantasy

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#1 donovanx85
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just wondering if anyone eles misses the older one player stlye of final fantasy and the old battle system (ffI-FFX-2)

the new Final fantasy games are all online and have real time fighting its probley just me but i stoped buying Final Fantasy Games after Fianl fantasy X-2

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#2 Jr_chaos
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I'm open to new experiences, butt he old battle system wouldn't hurt for just one more time.
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#3 SkyCastleDan
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I haven't played the game yet, but I've watched enough videos on YouTube and read enough about the game to say that the "HUGE" change in the FF battle system that XII presents seems to be a bit over-rated. Yes, the game does obviously seem to be leaning towards being an action RPG, but the ATB meter still exists for your characters and enemies, meaning you can't act out of turn (like you can in KH 1 & 2). Personally, when I watch the videos, the battle system just seems to be the old system with no switch to a seperate battle screen. Now granted, you can obviously move around and all...

Still, the old system was getting really stale. It was even gatting stale come FF VIII. That system was really really slow....and while IX spiced things up again by being the first FF to offer four playable characters at a time in one battle IN 3D! it got really old again once FFX came out, regadless of the character switch ability. In fact, the old system seemed to have worn out its welcome come FF X-2 where square seemed to substitute strategy for speed. That system was insanely fast and the fact that your characters ended up all over the battle screen after performing commands kind of showed square was leaning towards making its series an action RPG anyways....

I know that FF XI was trash, so I won't argue that that is a good a reason as any to want the old system back, but that system really can't be advanced anymore. I do love playing FF IV now and then to go back and enjoy the series when it was once so simple, but gamers are too demanding now a days, square needed to make this change to stay competitive with the likes of Dark Cloud, Breath of Fire and Sony's new (and from I hear awesome) RPG Rogue Galaxy. Besides, 13 straight FFs with the same battle system? That would basically make buying the new installments simply for storyline, and if thats the case, just go buy or rent a good anime....

N E Ways, thats just my opinion....

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#4 Jr_chaos
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just go buy or rent a good anime....SkyCastleDan

Such a thing exists?
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[QUOTE="Jr_chaos"]

just go buy or rent a good anime....SkyCastleDan

Such a thing exists?

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#6 poetsoul
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To me it seems the style of fight
Of FF Nine was almost right.
Though One through Four were pretty dull,
And number Eight just hurt my skull,
Game number Ten I couldn't STAND;
Myself, I'd rather burn my hand
Than play a game that flows so bad,
(Good acting not, did Tydus have.)

But I digress: o'er all the rest,
Though Five and Six well passed the test,
Fantasy Seven played the best...
I say this at my heart's behest.
Because the simple yet effective
style of boosting the limit guage through
character damage remains the best way to earn a super move.

I make no jest.
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#7 Steve2911
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Nice poem. I just said that out loud and my family have sent me to an institution (It's fun here....).

Any way, I think the real time battles look quite good. I loved how the battles played in Tales of Symphonia but I want to try this out before I make any judgements. I loved the old battle system and will be sad to see it go.

I hated the battles in 1 and 2. 4, 5 and 6 were good. 7, 8 and 9 were, in my eyes perfect. I liked 10 as switching characters meant for more easily strategised battles and more fair magic distribution. The battles in X-2 were terrible though. They should have kept with the same basis they had for 10 instead of trying to "reinvent" the turn based RPG.

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#8 CMakaCreative
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I'm looking foward to the new battle system, only because other RPG franchises battle systems (Tales, Star Ocean, Grandia) are fun to play. Though, the old battle system plays fine with me. After playing Dragon Quest VIII, that old style battle system works for that game but after a while it get's repetitive. But that can be said about any battle system. I have no problems with the new direction and I really don't mind playing with the old way either. I guess I'm just easy to please, long as the story holds up.
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#9 GreatMno
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You know what I miss? 2-D side scrollers. What? Nobody else miss that one? Oh well...
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#10 Dark_Kain
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You know what I miss? 2-D side scrollers. What? Nobody else miss that one? Oh well...GreatMno
Contra: Final Fantasy Edition ... I'd buy it.
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#11 Master_Odin
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[QUOTE="GreatMno"]You know what I miss? 2-D side scrollers. What? Nobody else miss that one? Oh well...Gorman7147
Contra: Final Fantasy Edition ... I'd buy it.

It would be fun! :P

Anyway, the old fighting system had been used for about 11 games so far and it is getting a little repetitive. To keep players wanting FF, Square decided to try and make the battle system new and fresh

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its very good to innovate in video gamez.
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#13 GreatMno
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[QUOTE="GreatMno"]You know what I miss? 2-D side scrollers. What? Nobody else miss that one? Oh well...Gorman7147
Contra: Final Fantasy Edition ... I'd buy it.

Heck yeah. That would be game to be played.

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#14 SSJ_Nega
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I really miss the old battle style, the fighting in FFXII looks like FFXI, and FFXIII seems more like  DMC.

It was at it's best in either FFVII or FFIX because you didnt have time to choose and it seemed more intense.

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#15 FF12BK
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I miss the old final fantasy.  They are uniques and memorable.  However, FFXII is a big step and a revolution in the FF series.  It gives a new experience in which no other FF can compare.  Although I'm an old school FF fans, I've gotta say SE have done a great success on FFXII.  Anyway, FFXII did lack on some elements that old school FF fans look for, but I think with the current PS2's engine, SE did their best.  Hopefully with the next gen console coming up, I bet FFXIII will definately give everyone on what they are missing and hoping for. 

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#16 Arch_Angel_21
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I love the Final Fantasy series dont get me wrong but oh my god i hated Final Fantasy X-2!! I hated the battle system, the characters, and it had a story that would put goldfish to sleep, and they dont even sleep!!!
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#17 SSJ_Nega
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[QUOTE="Arch_Angel_21"]I love the Final Fantasy series dont get me wrong but oh my god i hated Final Fantasy X-2!! I hated the battle system, the characters, and it had a story that would put goldfish to sleep, and they dont even sleep!!!



I thought the battle system in X-2 was really good, it was like the old days.
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#18 Gallion-Beast
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You know what I miss? 2-D side scrollers. What? Nobody else miss that one? Oh well...GreatMno
Viewtiful Joe is the game for j00! Great side scroller from the creators of DMC
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#19 AzelKosMos
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I personally am happy enough with the battle systems being experimented with. If they had stayed the same forever, they would have become stale.

Saying that, i am worried about FFXII's system....

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#20 KnightsofRound
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FFXII looks to much like an MMO gameplay style to me.  I hope it isn't though because I generally am not fond of MMORPGs, I am more of a huge fan of traditional single player RPGs.
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#21 csimonma
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[QUOTE="ffx-expert"] [QUOTE="Jr_chaos"]

just go buy or rent a good anime....SkyCastleDan

Such a thing exists?

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o man that one made me laugh for some reason.