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#1 ff-leader
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As you know i have recently posted on the posibility of a gay relationship in FF. But what i have realised this is already the case in FF7 here is what i mean-

*In FF7 the honeybee inn is a gay sex place where cloud is cornered by a dozen of gay men who want to bath with him and when they strip him and put him in the bath he makes no effort to fight them off.

*Also Cloud dresses up as a woman showing he is not worried about doing so.

*Barret is not Marlenes real dad and he has never had a wife but cared for marlene because she is Dynes daughter, which adds too the fact he could be gay.

*Barret adds hints that he cares about cloud throughout the story.

*If picked to go on a date with Don Corneo you can say that you have someone else called Barret.

*You can go on a date with Barret.

If you see what i mean you can make it so Cloud is gay if you do the right things and it also shows that Barret is gay.

As we progress to FF12 there is no relationship in that story, the characters are becoming more of your steriotypical homosexual i.e. Tidus/Vaan and the new girl for FF13, so a gay relationship could be envitable as FF7 was considered one of the best even with the gay references there.

What do you guys think?

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#2 gamingqueen
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i dunno but there are public bathrooms in real life where men or women share one bath tub you know that ?

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#3 Solace427
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....interesting and for the conspiricy things those are god points but then again in that honeybee place dont they look for women to bring hence why the have Aerith?
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#4 ff-leader
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The honeybee inn is a place not for woman, they didnt let Aeries in only Cloud and when they call cloud diki and say to him lets wash all out sweat together and when the room is called the F****** room then i very much doubt its mutual when the gay men are wearing G strings and cloud thinks that it hurts because its hard while they get him in the bath with them.
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#5 jordina
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if there was a g person like barret then there would be no problem.

barret did have a wife though. hes bi barret.

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 Eh, yeah...really totally amazing.
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#7 ffx-expert
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if there was a g person like barret then there would be no problem.

barret did have a wife though. hes bi barret.

jordina

What do you mean?

And gay is not an offensive word if used to describe a gay person
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#8 ccgod
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[QUOTE="ffx-expert"]

if there was a g person like barret then there would be no problem.

barret did have a wife though. hes bi barret.

jordina

What do you mean?

And gay is not an offensive word if used to describe a gay person



On the main GS forum it is I got modded for saying it in an FF thread about saying all the leads are gays
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#9 Jalapenos
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That was just stupid.
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#10 Master_Odin
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I still don't see the big deal. Now, is FFVII going to go from being one of the best games to one of the worst games because of it? No, probably not. If a game doesn't try and follow all the stereotypes that the media have created for homosexuals, then yes, the game wouldn't sell very well, but if the game actually presents a homosexual lead character in a mature way, not following all the stereotypes, then yes the game will still be good and not be considered "bad".
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#11 gamerrgurrl9
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And your point is?????????? What if they do have gay characters in FF???? I don't see what's the problem?????

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#12 jordina
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whats the obsession over gaay people at the moment lol

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#13 manhunt1001
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Please just dont declare that you think Cloud is gay...I think every that may lead you to believe that is just for comic relief. 
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#14 the_unbroken
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whats the obsession over gaay people at the moment lol

jordina

Yeah I know, Why is everyone making threads about gaay characters in FF, I dont see the big deal If they arent then they arent, and if they are who cares, Why do we have to continue making threads about it.

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#15 -Pro-Link-
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Well first of all, he does try to fight the people in the Honeybee Inn.  When he dreseed up like a girl, he was worried.  Aeris talked him in to it.  And with Don, he had to say that or his cover would be blown.  So your accusations are all false.  I would know since I've beaten FFVII 4 times, and am working on my fifth.
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#16 ff-leader
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Explain the fact that you can go on a date with Barret and say to the Don if cloud gets picked you have someone else called Barret!
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As you know i have recently posted on the posibility of a gay relationship in FF. But what i have realised this is already the case in FF7 here is what i mean-

*In FF7 the honeybee inn is a gay sex place where cloud is cornered by a dozen of gay men who want to bath with him and when they strip him and put him in the bath he makes no effort to fight them off. It's not a gay club, check any other room for proof. It just happens that you are always drawn to the gay room, says nothing about Cloud.

*Also Cloud dresses up as a woman showing he is not worried about doing so. Not worried? What game did you play? It's the only way to help Tifa, I'm sure you'd do the same for a very good friend if they really needed it.

*Barret is not Marlenes real dad and he has never had a wife but cared for marlene because she is Dynes daughter, which adds too the fact he could be gay. Barret looks after her out of guilt not because he fancied her Father. Besides, who else would look after her? They were the only survivors.

*Barret adds hints that he cares about cloud throughout the story. After the help he gave and his old friendship with Tifa - anyone would get close. And after the huge story, they would be good friends. Have you never cared for a same sex friend?

*If picked to go on a date with Don Corneo you can say that you have someone else called Barret.What?

*You can go on a date with Barret. I've never been so inclined to try it out, but something tells me niether have you. Never gone out with a mate for a drink or a laugh?

. . .

What do you guys think? That you're making something huge out of a gay room. It makes no difference, but I wouldn't want to be analysed by you - something is yelling obsessed.

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#18 ff-leader
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You have some good points there but there is no need to get stressed out over a topic;) 

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#19 -Pro-Link-
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Explain the fact that you can go on a date with Barret and say to the Don if cloud gets picked you have someone else called Barret!ff-leader

Because He says that so his cover isn't blown!  That was when he dressed up like a female.  You can go on a date with Barret because in that situation there was noone else to go on a date with.  Play the freakin' game again.
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As you know i have recently posted on the posibility of a gay relationship in FF. But what i have realised this is already the case in FF7 here is what i mean-

*In FF7 the honeybee inn is a gay sex place where cloud is cornered by a dozen of gay men who want to bath with him and when they strip him and put him in the bath he makes no effort to fight them off.

*Also Cloud dresses up as a woman showing he is not worried about doing so.

*Barret is not Marlenes real dad and he has never had a wife but cared for marlene because she is Dynes daughter, which adds too the fact he could be gay.

*Barret adds hints that he cares about cloud throughout the story.

*If picked to go on a date with Don Corneo you can say that you have someone else called Barret.

*You can go on a date with Barret.

ff-leader

I don't quite believe you when you say that characters are gay. (I'm numbering them in the order you had it)

1. As someone else pointed out it is a spot where they do have women. Now it has been awhile since i played that part in the game, but from what i remember Cloud wasn't quite enjoying it. and if i remember right you could choose on weather or not you go into the bath or not.

2. I don't think Cloud would be worried about dressing up as a girl as long as he if doing it to resuce a friend.(Thats my personal opinion) Again if I remember right Cloud wasn't to excited about it.

3. I don't think this really accounts for Barret being gay. It shows that he cares (not in love care) for his friend and his family. Its kinda like having a guardian. If your best friend died and they had kids would you take care of them?

4. When characters use the word "care" it doesn't nessicarrily mean like/love. I care for my friends because i hope for their well being.

5. I don't know about you, but i pick on my friends all the time. I think that is what Cloud was doing.

6. And I think Square put this is as a joke.

Please note this is what i think. And i don't mean to bash on what you're saying.

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#21 Elemenope620
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[QUOTE="jordina"]

whats the obsession over gaay people at the moment lol

the_unbroken

Yeah I know, Why is everyone making threads about gaay characters in FF, I dont see the big deal If they arent then they arent, and if they are who cares, Why do we have to continue making threads about it.

That's what I'm saying. okay, o get everyone from asking that weird question "what's wrong if there is a gay character anyway?" I would ask you all this. Imagine your life was a game and you had a son or a daughter, and they came to you saying, "daddy/mommy I love my own kind." You telling me you wouldnt be distraught?

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#22 mysticcarnege
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ok i highly doubt that Cloud is gaay..

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#23 aja1-6
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Are you kidding? Some people see something gay in everything. They are called freaks.
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[QUOTE="the_unbroken"][QUOTE="jordina"]

whats the obsession over gaay people at the moment lol

Elemenope620

Yeah I know, Why is everyone making threads about gaay characters in FF, I dont see the big deal If they arent then they arent, and if they are who cares, Why do we have to continue making threads about it.

That's what I'm saying. okay, o get everyone from asking that weird question "what's wrong if there is a gay character anyway?" I would ask you all this. Imagine your life was a game and you had a son or a daughter, and they came to you saying, "daddy/mommy I love my own kind." You telling me you wouldnt be distraught?



I don't know if you own a calendar, but it's the 21st century, you know. Most people chose not to live in fear based on medieval prejudices. And why should we imagine our life was a game, as if that's more disturbing than imagining it in real life? Perhaps this confusion with the importance of fiction explains your concern over this issue, which can only be of the slightest importance if viewed from the standpoint of someone propagating hate against people for leading a different lifestyle than his or her own.
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#25 jordina
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i really dislike the sexuality.
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As you know i have recently posted on the posibility of a gay relationship in FF. But what i have realised this is already the case in FF7 here is what i mean-

*In FF7 the honeybee inn is a gay sex place where cloud is cornered by a dozen of gay men who want to bath with him and when they strip him and put him in the bath he makes no effort to fight them off.

*Also Cloud dresses up as a woman showing he is not worried about doing so.

*Barret is not Marlenes real dad and he has never had a wife but cared for marlene because she is Dynes daughter, which adds too the fact he could be gay.

*Barret adds hints that he cares about cloud throughout the story.

*If picked to go on a date with Don Corneo you can say that you have someone else called Barret.

*You can go on a date with Barret.

If you see what i mean you can make it so Cloud is gay if you do the right things and it also shows that Barret is gay.

As we progress to FF12 there is no relationship in that story, the characters are becoming more of your steriotypical homosexual i.e. Tidus/Vaan and the new girl for FF13, so a gay relationship could be envitable as FF7 was considered one of the best even with the gay references there.

What do you guys think?

ff-leader

Seriously, what does it matter?  Even if any of it is true, I wouldn't let it get in the way of enjoying the game.

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[QUOTE="ff-leader"]

As you know i have recently posted on the posibility of a gay relationship in FF. But what i have realised this is already the case in FF7 here is what i mean-

*In FF7 the honeybee inn is a gay sex place where cloud is cornered by a dozen of gay men who want to bath with him and when they strip him and put him in the bath he makes no effort to fight them off.

*Also Cloud dresses up as a woman showing he is not worried about doing so.

*Barret is not Marlenes real dad and he has never had a wife but cared for marlene because she is Dynes daughter, which adds too the fact he could be gay.

*Barret adds hints that he cares about cloud throughout the story.

*If picked to go on a date with Don Corneo you can say that you have someone else called Barret.

*You can go on a date with Barret.

If you see what i mean you can make it so Cloud is gay if you do the right things and it also shows that Barret is gay.

As we progress to FF12 there is no relationship in that story, the characters are becoming more of your steriotypical homosexual i.e. Tidus/Vaan and the new girl for FF13, so a gay relationship could be envitable as FF7 was considered one of the best even with the gay references there.

What do you guys think?

RockmanSRD

Seriously, what does it matter?  Even if any of it is true, I wouldn't let it get in the way of enjoying the game.

I agree, who cares who is gay and who is straight! I don't.
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#28 fearlex
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This is crazy to think something like this OMG !!!
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#29 rqasem
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Why does it matter FF-Leader?
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#30 jean0rogue
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I seriously doubt Cloud is gay...he has feeling throught the game for both Aeris and Tifa...

I just think you're looking too hard.