1 up>>>>FORZA II>>>>8.3

So that about wraps it up. Forza 2 is the best sim racer out there right now, no question, and it continues to lead the way online. But aside from the cool online auction and community stuff, it's pretty much Forza 1 with updated graphics -- which is great, but I was hoping for a slightly larger step forward.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3159906

1up is a joke the only thing good are their podcasts.

Forza is the new racing sim king. Forza outscored GT4 and Forza 2 doesn't look like it's giving GT5 a fighting chance. Deal with it.