10 Video Games That Should Be Considered As Modern Art

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#1 iki080
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http://www.cracked.com/blog/defending-the-habit-10-video-games-as-modern-art/
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#2 AdrianWerner
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I don't think any of those deserves to be on the list honestly. Each of those games has great art in it, but there's a huge diffrence between "having art in it" and being art itself. Bassicaly imagine a movie that for 8hours shows just a static image of Picasso's painting. Would you call this movie "art"? The painting obviously is art, but the movie itself isn't. Most games are the same, they're like this movie.

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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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Who cares? I don't want art, I want a game.
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#4 MrSlippery39
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I think thats a great list, since most of those games is so unlike any other games out there.
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#5 kweeni
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oddworld! so thats what the game was called! i remember playing it on my ps1 when i was young, liked it alot lol but lost it and didn't know the name
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#6 kweeni
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anyway those games don't look like art. and games aren't even ment to be art, just fun
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#7 ajames_123
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ICO and SOTC amazing art style.
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#8 obamanian
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anyway those games don't look like art. and games aren't even ment to be art, just funkweeni

I value art in games more than gameplay itself, especially since i play RPG's/adventures mainly, a world that has amazing art style is my single most important aspect in any game

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#9 Salt_The_Fries
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I don't think any of those deserves to be on the list honestly. Each of those games has great art in it, but there's a huge diffrence between "having art in it" and being art itself.AdrianWerner

Exactly. Darwinia would be more of an art in itself, though I personally wouldn't risk calling it like that. Nevertheless it's a deconstruction, pastiche, and abstract retro-futurism all in one, that plays and transgresses many conventions.

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#10 50u1r34v3r
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Good to see Tim Shafer and Lorne Lanning are represented on that list. :)

Now show that list to Lorne and tell him to hurry up and create a new oddworld game asap.

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#11 hakanakumono
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I'd consider lots of games to be modern art. Some focus on art, some don't.

For example, Odin Sphere would be a game that most people would agree on.

I'd also argue games like Resident Evil 2, Silent Hill, Siren, Final Fantasy XII etc are artistic as well. Lots of games have artistic merit, not necessarily in the graphical department.

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#12 KiddSushi
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I think we should stop trying to shove the artistic aspects of games down everyone's throats. We're only making ourselves look worse.
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]anyway those games don't look like art. and games aren't even ment to be art, just funobamanian

I value art in games more than gameplay itself, especially since i play RPG's/adventures mainly, a world that has amazing art style is my single most important aspect in any game

I thought it was gameplay...I mean story?
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#14 banbanbanban
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Nobody can touch epicgames artstyle in unreal games.
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#15 di_sgt_barber
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Who cares? I don't want art, I want a game.Cherokee_Jack
lol. so right. i love van gogh. am drunk enough to admit even deepest passions. but don't care about art when it comes to gaming, truly.
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#16 banbanbanban
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oddworld! so thats what the game was called! i remember playing it on my ps1 when i was young, liked it alot lol but lost it and didn't know the namekweeni

oddworld started out as pc game, i remember there was a pc/booth across the ebgames at my mall, but they had oddworld running on it, and this wasnt out for any other platform at the time.

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#17 pp222
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No Metal Gear Solid? Fail list. Ain't an art game list without MGS.
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#18 KiddSushi
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No Metal Gear Solid? Fail list. Ain't an art game list without MGS.pp222
Bisexual vampires aren't artistic. They're just weird.
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#19 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="kweeni"]anyway those games don't look like art. and games aren't even ment to be art, just funRagnarok1051

I value art in games more than gameplay itself, especially since i play RPG's/adventures mainly, a world that has amazing art style is my single most important aspect in any game

I thought it was gameplay...I mean story?

Everything is important, but i just love moving arounnd artistically pleasing environments more than anything

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#20 AdrianWerner
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Everything is important, but i just love moving arounnd artistically pleasing environments more than anything

obamanian

not really. Looking at what you hype it;s obvious that ss long as it's fantasy, on 360 and preferablyt not coming to PS3 you will love it, no matter how absymal the art is.

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#21 Nomad0404
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Those are just 'different' looking games. Much like JSR would have been when it first hit the DC.

REZ is a game that I think should be considered as Art.

How about DeBlob is that not Art as a game?

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#22 KGB32
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what about Rez HD damnit!?
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#23 pp222
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[QUOTE="pp222"]No Metal Gear Solid? Fail list. Ain't an art game list without MGS.KiddSushi
Bisexual vampires aren't artistic. They're just weird.

That might be so, but tales of life and loyalty in a good story is very artistic.
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I consider the whole concept of "art" fiddlesticks.
It's like we name some efforts or findings "art" to give them an elevated status, because we in some way admire them.
So whenever a person stands still and has accidentally opened up their mind (god forbid that), they see something beyond the usual and hey it is art to them.
Artists are people who like to find purpose, value and meaning in things that people usually don't see.
A bit like philosophers in that sense, though philosophers are merely ridiculed in this age, since we have "science" now. Which is being pounded into every poor childs mind like they took it from the bible itself. As long as You don't think beyond the box, i.e. provide something interesting without a theory that could make sense, You can be elevated. But if You see something wrong in our ways of thinking, then You better shut it or be send off to an asylum since nobody will even bother to try comprehend You anyway.

So uhm, maybe You can understand i'm not too fond of this special service for the less important. Let's forget this whole art crap and take things for what they are. These are games, and some are beautiful in our eyes because we are so open to nice games, and that's it.
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#25 deactivated-5f24e9d9ab22f
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List lacks The Last Express.
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#26 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Calling videogames art is the sillyest thing I have heard in a while. Stop talking videogames seriously. :|
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#27 50u1r34v3r
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Calling videogames art is the sillyest thing I have heard in a while. Stop talking videogames seriously. :|Aljosa23

Why? Some movies are considered art, some music is considered art, why not videogames?

It does after all take (an) ARTist(s) to develop a game.

Or do you not consider game developers artists?

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#28 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]anyway those games don't look like art. and games aren't even ment to be art, just funobamanian

I value art in games more than gameplay itself, especially since i play RPG's/adventures mainly, a world that has amazing art style is my single most important aspect in any game

Wha? A beautiful game in expense of the gameplay sucks though.:?

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#29 pp222
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Calling videogames art is the sillyest thing I have heard in a while. Stop talking videogames seriously. :|Aljosa23
If 50 Cent's in da club hood music is an artform gaming is definetly an artform. But it depends on the game of course. A game like Wii Play or the 10,000 movie cash in games are hardly art, but games with good procution values and engaging story (see: MGS) is definetly a kind of art. The problem is, most developers would rather rush a cheap product like "Wii Party Games" or "Dragon Ball: The Movie: The game" which is guaranteed to sell rather than a game with a high budget and careful development. While I don't like I see the logic, a company would rather sell a cheap cash in product to the huge casual base rather than an excellent and engaging game that only the minor hardcore base will buy. Also, the majority of pirates are "hardcore gamers". Developer would rather make something meh the casuals will eat up rather than an amazing game that will force them bankrupt.
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#30 skrat_01
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... as much as I like Cracked....

I don't think any of those deserves to be on the list honestly. Each of those games has great art in it, but there's a huge diffrence between "having art in it" and being art itself. Bassicaly imagine a movie that for 8hours shows just a static image of Picasso's painting. Would you call this movie "art"? The painting obviously is art, but the movie itself isn't. Most games are the same, they're like this movie.

AdrianWerner
I agree. Its a bit of a shallow article. But hell, its... Cracked.
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#31 skrat_01
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Calling videogames art is the sillyest thing I have heard in a while. Stop talking videogames seriously. :|Aljosa23
Ahem

:|

So what is art?

http://www.students.sbc.edu/evans06/images/Marcel%20Duchamp.jpg

This debate ended decades ago.

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#32 Bread_or_Decide
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Art is about ideas. Its not about being a pretty game.
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#33 Wanderer5
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I only agree with Psychonauts and of course Shadow of the colossus/Ico for that list.

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#34 Mau-Justice
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I can't see the link, but Okami and Bioshock should be on there.
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#35 PoppaGamer
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I agree with some on the list. But how do you not include some of these?:

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#36 Lionheart08
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The lack of Odin Sphere on that list really sucks.
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#37 spinecaton
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Calling videogames art is the sillyest thing I have heard in a while. Stop talking videogames seriously. :|Aljosa23

All forms of media are considered art. Maybe you should look at the definition of art

  1. Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.
    1. The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
    2. The study of these activities.
    3. The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
  2. High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
I don't know about you but I have played meany games that the art and style of the game had me in awe. Most recently would be the new Prince of Persia. While not an amazing game, the beauty behind the environments and the dramatic combat and animations really gave the game something unique. I'm sorry that you cannot see art in games. You can't seriously tell me that there aren't games out there that made you say "damn what a unique experience and atmosphere" Sure maybe not in those words but a game never had that affect on you? Perhaps you need to branch out into different genres then.

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#38 shadow_hosi
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who cares? if i want to look at art ill buy a picture, i get games to play games
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#39 GTR_FX
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what a stupid list

fallout and portal but no JSRF?

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#40 AdrianWerner
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I find it really dissapointing that to almost everyone here as long as game has "teh pretty pictures" it's art. Shows how primitive gaming still is as a medium
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#41 50u1r34v3r
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who cares? if i want to look at art ill buy a picture, i get games to play gamesshadow_hosi

If I look at a picture it's because I like it, not because it is art.

If I play a videogame it is because I like playing it, not because it is art.

Doesn't mean I don't consider it to be art though.

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#42 thepwninator
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I dislike the fact that it is missing Planescape: Torment and Deus Ex. Those games are masterpieces.
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#43 50u1r34v3r
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I find it really dissapointing that to almost everyone here as long as game has "teh pretty pictures" it's art.

Shows how primitive gaming still is as a mediumAdrianWerner

It isn't about "teh pretty pictures" for me, it's about the respecting the creative vision that some developers have.

But please describe 'art' for me if you don't think these should be considered art.

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#44 BZSIN
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Rez and Flower definitely deserve to be on that list.
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#45 lolwotrickroll
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no braid = meh list
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#46 Robio_basic
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Pretty meh list for me. A lot of it seems to be "let's find games with unusual art styles and stick them up there." I would have added Deadly Creatures to that list. It's a normal looking game, so that probably disqualified it, but the game doesn't follow the rules of traditional story telling and offers a very unique perspective. To me that's a little more artistic than characters with disfigured heads and weird color palattes.

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#47 spinecaton
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I find it really dissapointing that to almost everyone here as long as game has "teh pretty pictures" it's art. Shows how primitive gaming still is as a mediumAdrianWerner

Art in a video game is the game as a whole, the gameplay, the environment, the story, the way the story is told. Just like a movie(except for the gameplay of course :P )

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#48 iam2green
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i don't like that list some of them i agree on but i don't think some of them work out. only three games i thought it worked great, portal, shadow of the colossus, Katamari Damacy. only games i thought were great on that list.
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#49 jg4xchamp
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I disagree with all of them except ICO and sure probably SoTC
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#50 Jrfanfreak88
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Who cares? I don't want art, I want a game.Cherokee_Jack
Art is merely a form of self expression, what do you think video games are?