*********100 Greatest Game List (Edge Magazine)**********

From BBC:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has topped a poll of readers of Edge magazine and industry experts to find the top 100 games of all time.

The 10-year-old video for the Nintendo 64 games console help usher in a new era of 3D gaming.

It is also one of only five games ever to receive a 10 out of 10 review score from Edge magazine.

Five of the top 10 titles were made only for Nintendo machines, including Super Mario 64, in third spot.

The full list of 100 titles has been compiled for a special edition of Edge magazine.

Tony Mott, editor-in-chief of Edge, said: "If you were new to video games and were going to go out and buy 100 games to make an instant collection, then these would be the games to buy."

He added: "Ocarina of Time is nearly 10 years old, but its position at the top slot in Edge's 100 Best Videogames shows that great game design does not age.

"In visual terms, it obviously cannot compete with today's Xbox 360 and PS3 productions, but, as with many ****cs, its appeal is about so much more than its appearance."

Only one PC game makes the top 10 - ****c first person shooter Half Life 2. Microsoft's Xbox also has only one representative in the elite list - with Halo: Combat Evolved at number seven.

Only five games for the next generation of consoles have made the top 100 - Pro Evolution Soccer 6, at number 15, Oblivion, at number 19, Virtua Fighter 5, in 38th spot, Virtua Tennis 3 at number 80, and Crackdown at 100.

Tony Mott said: "Crackdown hasn't been around long but has proved itself to be a very good game. It will be interesting to see people's reaction to that.

"If we did this poll in five year's time, I would hope to see more PS3 and Xbox 360 games in the list. But I don't think anyone would argue we have seen that many ****cs in this new generation."

The list was drawn together in three stages - thousands of reader votes, combined with expert opinion in the games industry and finally input from Edge's own editorial team.

Mr Mott said Ocarina of Time was the reader favourite as well as the overall winner.

'Brilliantly well'

He said: "It appeared not long after games made the shift to 3D; everyone was wondering if it could make the transition.

"It was a very ambitious game. The way they were able to engineer it in a 3D context was a success; it worked brilliantly well."

But he said the intention behind the poll was not to create a "nostalgia festival".

"These games had to stand up today. People will be surprised by the small amount of very old games that have made it through.

"Often these types of lists are full of games like Space Invaders and Pong - which we recognise as ****cs, as important games - but they don't necessarily stand up to play today."

He added: "I love the fact that old games are being made available to audiences via Xbox Live, PlayStation Network and through compilations but I am not convinced that younger players will play them and appreciate them in the way we did the first time round.

"It's very hard for younger players who play something graphically-rich like Gears of War to then play something like Robotron.

"I think it will be for the greater good of the industry when more effort is put into the content of games than the way it is presented visually."

The five titles to have received a maximum review score from Edge are: Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Half-Life 2, Gran Turismo, Super Mario 64 and Halo.

The full list of the top 100 games will be available in a collector's volume called Edge Presents: The 100 Best Videogames, on sale from Tuesday 3 July.

Top 100 games

100. Crackdown
99. Psychonauts
98. Sensible Soccer
97. Tekken 3
96. Wipeout
95. God of War
94. Gitaroo Man
93. Paper Mario: Thousand-Year Door
92. Resident Evil
91. Super Smash Bros Melee
90. Devil May Cry
89. Tomb Raider
88. Sega Rally Championship
87. Mr Driller
86. Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast
85. Silent Hill 2
84. Phantasy Star Online
83. Nights Into Dreams
82. Lemmings
81. Robotron 2084
80. Virtua Tennis 3
79. The Secret of Monkey Island
78. Doom 2: Hell on Earth
77. Football Manager 2007
76. Ikaruga
75. Burnout 2: Point of Impact
74. Thief: The Dark Project
73. Puzzle Bobble
72. Killer7
71. Ninja Gaiden Black
70. Ridge Racers 2
69. Pilotwings 64
68. GTR - FIA GT Racing Game 2
67. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
66. F-Zero GX
65. Darwinia
64. System Shock 2
63. Lumines
62. Jet Set Radio Future
61. Manhunt
60. Pac-Man VS
59. Star Fox 64
58. Tempest 2000
57. Soul Calibur
56. Guitar Hero
55. Counter-strike
54. Chrono Trigger
53. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
52. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
51. Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire
50. Shenmue
49. Animal Crossing
48. Puyo Pop Fever
47. Far Cry
46. Quake III
45. Company of Heroes
44. Super Monkey Ball
43. Bomberman
42. Rome: Total War
41. Gran Turismo 4
40. Warioware, Inc: Minigame Mania
39. Secret of Mana
38. Virtua Fighter 5
37. StarCraft
36. Battlefield 2
35. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
34. R-Type Final
33. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
32. Project Gotham Racing 2
31. Katamari Damacy
30. Shadow of the Colossus
29. Deus Ex
28. Perfect Dark
27. Rez
26. Advance Wars
25. SimCity 2000
24. Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
23. Metroid Prime
22. World of WarCraft
21. Okami
20. Civilisation IV
19. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
18. Final Fantasy VII
17. Goldeneye 007
16. Street Fighter Anniversary
15. Pro Evolution Soccer 6
14. Super Mario Kart
13. Ico
12. Grant Theft Auto: Vice City
11. Yoshi's Island

And the top ten again:

10. Super Metroid
9. Tetris (Sordel - who is this guy?!)
8. Final Fantasy XII (MattyJ, Speedhaak, Chilly Willy, diablo1000000)
7. Halo: Combat Evolved (DonAIMathi Boy)
6. Zelda: A Link To The Past (Church)
5. Super Mario World
4. Half-life 2
3. Super Mario 64
2. Resident Evil 4
1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

I feel like I'm gonna throw up :(

Some good games in there but overall the list is just.....wrong.

Where the hell are mgs1 and mgs3??! Argghhh!! this list sucks!secretsaiyan007

Hey... you... yeah you.... psssssst...... MGS sux!

How the hell did XII beat out all the other FFs to the top ten?

How the hell did XII beat out all the other FFs to the top ten?

DireToad

because its a popularity contest, and FFXII is freshest in peoples minds, also alot of the people that were polled, were probably not old enough to have played the really good FF's.

I mean, WoW ahead of Starcraft.... cmon!

This list is crap, not because the games mentioned arent good, but because in order to get a proper list of the best games ever, you'd need to ask every gamer in the world. And since I'm pretty sure they didnt, then the list means nothing to me....

[QUOTE="Zandeus"]

[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Where the hell are mgs1 and mgs3??! Argghhh!! this list sucks!white_sox

Hey... you... yeah you.... psssssst...... MGS sux!

Says the guy with the Halo avatar.

Whatever... before MS ever even announced they were gonna make a console, I've hated MGS. I've not liked the series since its conception back on the NES. Sorry, but I dont see how liking Halo makes me a biased fanboy.

That list is soooo terrible.

It's painfully obvious that the person(s) who made up that list started gaming in the 5th generation.

Rez made a 'best of' list that isn't 'trippiest/stoner game'? While I'm very happy, :o:o:o nonetheless.

While the list is IMO missing some important titles, I'm very glad to see a lot of under-rated, lesser-known titles on there. Take that, mainstream!

[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Where the hell are mgs1 and mgs3??! Argghhh!! this list sucks!Zandeus

Hey... you... yeah you.... psssssst...... MGS sux!

What's up with 5 Nintendo titles on top 10?! This list sux donkey balls. God of War at 94 or something and MGS3 isn't even there. Well screw you, Edge Magazine!

Edit: And FFX is way better then XII. XII was broken and unbalanced that focused to much on melee. There were no interesting characters except the judges and and you never really got into the game unlike FFX.

How is CRACKDOWN on there???marinebro0306

Any list that is missing either Max Payne 1 or Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne is a list not worth reading.

The first was one of the most important action games ever made, with an amazing story and voice acting.

The second was an amazing action game, with a brilliant story, characters, voice acting, rag dolls and overall gunplay.

Although many people know Max Payne from the console versions, please dont judge these incredible games on low rate console ports. Judge them on a gaming PC and you will find them to be amazing.

Max Payne 2 is my fav game of all time. (Does it show? :P)

look where god of war is!!!

Man, #2's a game in which you can't even move with a knife in your hands or walk sideways...where is this world going?woody_88_

Wow, Re4 is #2. Didn't expect that.

And.....SSBM.....#91

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I hate this list now.

you know the list is bogus when crackdown is on it, and FFVII isntshadow_hosi

FFVII is on there.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

**** list.