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Its probably gonna be long, so whatever. Anyway this thread is to show what the MS, Sony, and Nintendo have given to us with there 1st/2nd party. This list will only show games that scored AA or better on gamespot or gamerankings for overall Tally. I will show scores for Gamespot(to keep up with the rules) and Gamerankings(to show overall acclaim).

After that i will follow it up with, what the big 3 will offer us with possible score predictions. I will not give any game below AA hype, because a companies goal is to make a game purchase worthy and a gamer is always looking for purchase worthy games. I believe AA games and above are purchase worthy. A games are ok, but mostly worthy of rental. AA+ games are worthy to people who love the genre. I will also give reasoning to why i think the game can get this score, and so on. This list will not include PSN, XBLA, VC games. Im not sure if Warhawk and LBP are PSN games, so someone will have to help me out. PLEASE. Oh but certain games, im not gonna be to nice to. Because honestly i see no reason why this certain game has a chance to be good. Oh and sales, mean nothing here, This is about overall qaulity. Thank u. Basically this is gonna show how the big 3 match up when it comes to 1st/2nd party games.
Anyway here we go.
**Note** if people think i should add the games that didnt get AA or better, than i will add them.

Nintendo
Legend of Zelda:Twilight Princess.
*GS-8.8
*GR-94.6

SuperPaper Mario
*GS-8.8
*GR-87.0

Warioware:Smoth Moves
*GS-9.1
*GR-82.1

Microsoft
Kameo:Elements of Power
*GS-8.7
*GR-80.6

Perfect Dark Zero
*GS-9.0
*GR-80.9

Project Gotham Racing 3
*GS-8.8
*GR-88.4

Viva Pinata
*GS-8.3
*GR-85.0

**Gears of War(its only published by microsoft not developed. I kept it on the list as an asterisk for people who mention it)
**GS-9.6
**GR-93.8

Crackdown
*GS-7.8
*GR-83.5

SONY
Resistance:Fall of Man
*GS-8.6
*GR-87.6

Motorstorm
*GS-7.9
*GR-82.9

MLB 07:The show
*GS-8.2
*GR-77.5

overall
Nintendo
*GS- 1 AAA. 2 AA
*GR- 1 AAA. 2 AA

Microsoft
*GS- 3 AA
*GR- 5 AA

Sony
*GS- 3 AA
*GR- 2 AA

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Anyway heres Part 2. for the upcoming games of 07. Not 08. I know some of these could get delayed but for now there 07. So lets begin

NIntendo
SuperMario Galaxy- AAA- Miyamoto is directing it. The last time he directed a mario game was Mario 64. Plus mario is one of the best platforming series out there.

Metroid Prime 3- AAA- This was one of the best series last gen. Throw in improved graphics, gameplay, and new and better controls that change the gameplay a little. Plus online hopefully. Finally Retro is really good. I see no reason this wont get AAA.

SupersmashBros. Brawl- AAA- GS has kept this series under AAA long enough. Brawl breaks through with More characters, improved gameplay, more game modes, specials, and online smash bros. This will be Nintendos killer app this holiday season.

Fire Emblem:Goddes of Dawn-AA- The last one did really well on consoles. This will to. I however do believe it will be a low AA. Mainly because its basically a GC game moved over to the Wii. Its not a ground up wii game.

Mario Party 8-AA- Warioware is a minigame series that got a score boost for the wiimote controls. expect Marioparty to get the same and miss possible high AA to low AAA status because of a lack of online.

Project Hammer-AA- 1 of 2 New ips by Nintendo. Nintendo does really well with most of its games, and i expect this game will do well. Its a hack and slash using the wiimote. Could get interesting. So i give it a good shot at AA.

Battallion Wars 2-AA- THe last one got AA here. This one will get AA because of improvements to gameplay and an online feature. THe advance wars series does really good on handheld. I expect the console versions to get closer to that level of quality.

Disaster Day of Crisis- AAA- Im taking a shot with this one. ITs something many have wanted. Nintendo making a brand new mature IP. This game will play like an Action game (RE, MGS, GTA in terms of shooting) and will have you trying to avoid natural disasters. So i expect some crazy action sequences, good controls, good story, and some neat cutscenes. Plus good graphics for a wii game. So yeah im taking a shot with this one.

MarioStrikers Charged- AA- The game will remain as hectic as the first one, plus a really well done online feature. Throw in some interesting controls with the wiimote, i say this has a shot at AA. It will be an improvement from those other trash mario sports games.

Kirby-AA- Nintendo is really good with platformers. The trailer showed some amazing gameplay elements. It looked very quick paced and interesting.

I did not include DK bongo jet, Wii music, Big Brain, Wii health, Escape from bug island, or Eyeshield as i do not believe either of them will reach 8.0. All will do less. Also Bongos stink. I want a DK platformer.

Microsoft
Halo 3-AAA- its Halo, anything less is a disappointment. Enough Said

Fable 2-AA- The last one got AA. I think this will to. It will be much improved from the last one. But im not gonna hype this to much

Blue Dragon-AA- ITs made by a FF creator, ITs got some big name japanese creators behind it. I say this will be a really good jrpg.

Lost Oddyssey-AA- Mistwalker is looking to make a name, so this and blue dragon will be a start.

Too Human-AAA- 4 player coop. Its made by silicon knights. it has some good rpg elements plus action elements. Forget the article this game will probably be 20 to 30 hours long. For an action title, thats really good. This game will be a sleeper hit. I called it.

Shadwonrun-AA- Microsoft does good with shooters. Plus this game is built just for online. Also this PC vs Console players will give this game a boost in score IMO.

Tenchu Z- AA- This series is up and down. THe demo looked fun. So hey if they fix some issues then AA is not out of reach.

Mass Effect-AAA- This is an amazing upcoming RPG. It looks Beautiful, and will have amazing gameplay. Its huge, the innovative speech mechanics. AAA for my pick for best rpg this year.

Kingdom Under Fire-AA- The last one on xbox 1 got AA so hey why not this one also. But dont be shocked if it flops. THe original PC version got a 5 here.

Forza 2-AAA- really good racing sim. LAst one got AAA, this one will to with improved gameplay and even better online.

Banjo 3-AAA- Yep Rare comes back with a vengeance and ends all doubt that they are done. Banjo returns in AAA form.

Games left out were PGR 4, Alan Wake, Marvel Universe Online, Project Slypheed, Halo Wars because while they are announced i do believe they wont be out until 08.

Sony
Ratchet- AAA- THis series gets either high AA or low AAA. With its PS3 debut i say AAA.

Uncharted:Drakes Fortune- AAA- Naughty dog is really good at what they do. This game looks beautiful. THe gameplay looks sound. This is my sony sleeper hit. I honestly dont know why other cows dont think this is one of the best games coming. I love how this game looks and i dont have a PS3.

Lair- AAA- It looks good, really good. ITs made by Factor 5 which really helps. But it is also a dragon game, and dragon games dont do very well. The lack of online and it being a short game will hurt. But since Factor 5 is the dev and they have good history with this type of game. Then AAA

Socom- AA- I would have said AAA, but online only doesnt cut it here on gamespot. I personally believe it will be AAA on gamerankings, but GS will give it AA for lacking a single player option. Oh well high AA.

Heavenly Sword-AAA- IT looks really good. As for the gameplay its really good also. Also SOny does a good job with games like this. Example God of War

Killzone 2-AA- IF they can improve the bugs and the glitches. Have good graphics that we expect. Have some fresh gameplay mechanics, and nothing generic like the first one. Throw in a good online feature, then yes i believe even this can be AA and worthy of purchase.

Folklore-AA- It looks good for an rpg. Sony is a good dev. So hey why not AA rpg from sony themselves.

Eye of Judgement-AA- its a trading card game. SO i honestly doubt it will even get A. but hey someone will call me biased. So AA because the graphics could be good. The cards could catch on. And heck the gameplay could be amazing.

Eight Days-AA- An amazing looking action game. Will have a good movie like feel. IT might get knocked of for quite possibly getting repetitive or to much cutscenes and stuff. MGS gets that knock here and i believe so did Max Payne.

Warhawk-AA- good six axis controls. impressive gameplay. looks intense and quick paced. lack of some depth might knock it but i believe it will hit AA.

I did not include LBP because of them being PSN games. ALso WIpeout, GT 5, The Getaway will probably be 08. And Afrika will be probably a pretty looking game that flops for being nothing other than pretty IMO. Also White Knigh Story, Team ICO game, God of War 3 have no release date, no info yet, or anything. BUt i would say give Team ico and god of war AAA and WKS AA.

So there you have it my predictions

NIntendo- 4 AAA, 6 AA games. 10 purchase worthy games
Microsoft- 5 AAA, 5 AA games. 10 purchase worthy games
Sony- 4 AAA, 6 AA games. 10 purchase worthy games

Basically all 3 will be bringing some big guns this year. Microsoft is mostly 2nd party gems. Sony while may have the least AAA games this year, still have a good 1st/2nd party because a good percentage of ther games become AA or better. Nintendo is as strong as ever. But this did show that there dominance isnt as huge as Nintendo thinks. THis showed 3rd party is very important. And really adds to a giant library.

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#3 jg4xchamp
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dont jump on me yet, im gonna start looking at the upcoming games, to make a list of that as well.
This isnt meant to bash either of the 3 so calm down fanboys.
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all 3 of the lineups are pretty weak.
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#6 Nike_Air
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Warhawk should count because it is getting a disc release too.

LBP should not count , but the eventual disc release should.

 

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#7 ZinkOxide
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Why not include last gen?
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#8 SolidTy
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SOCOM is getting a disc release as well, from what I read. Either way, it's not out yet.

Anyways, It's odd that the Media thought Wario was decent, but GS loved it. The Media LOVED Zelda, but GS and the Japanese don't.

The only other title that's notable is GEARS of War, which took an entire extra year to come out, so it will be neat to see what NINTENDO and SONY have in store for their one year anniversaries. 

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Cool Idea! Ill help you out with Nintendo's 2007 Line-up! + my score predictions!

1st Party


NEWS

Nintendo's_1st_Party_Lineup_for_2007

Nintendo_Releases_Q-2_Wii_Lineup


AAA - Super Mario Galaxy - TBA 2007 (Rumor: October)


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Preview

AA - Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - TBA


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Videos
Preview
Official_Trailer

A-AA -  Pokemon Battle Revolution - June 25


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AA - Disaster: Day of Crysis - TBA 2007


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Extended_Trailer!

A-AA - Kirby - TBA 2007


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Proof_of_Wii_Release

A-AA - Mario Party 8 - May 29


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Preview

AAA - Metroid Prime 3 - TBA 2007


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A - Big Brain Acadamy Wii - June 11


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AA - Project H.A.M.M.E.R. - TBA 2007


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AA - Battalion Wars 2 - TBA 2007


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A - DK Jet - June 28


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Hands_On_(Gamecube_Version)
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A-AA - Super Mario Strikers - TBA 2007 (Summer)


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AAA - Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - TBA 2007


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A-AA - Forever Blue - TBA 2007


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First_Details

Others:
  • A - Wii Music -(2007)

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Preview
New_Info

  • A - Wii Health Pack - (2007)

New_Info

  • A-AA - Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - (December 2007)
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I like this idea! Now we can finally find out who actually has the best 1st party games!
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Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. 
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#14 jg4xchamp
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Warhawk should count because it is getting a disc release too.

LBP should not count , but the eventual disc release should.

 

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ok i guess ill fix the warhawk thing. thank u
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Why not include last gen?ZinkOxide
because that was the past. Lets talk current. Also while Nintendo is a very dominant 1st party, im pretty sure no one other than cows will wonna admit how strong sony did last gen in that department.
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Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party.  Teufelhuhn
yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.
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SOCOM is getting a disc release as well, from what I read. Either way, it's not out yet.

Anyways, It's odd that the Media thought Wario was decent, but GS loved it. The Media LOVED Zelda, but GS and the Japanese don't.

The only other title that's notable is GEARS of War, which took an entire extra year to come out, so it will be neat to see what NINTENDO and SONY have in store for their one year anniversaries. 

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there gonna all do good. I finally finsished the list. so u can hava look. also i knew socom would be a disc release. its download games im not counting.
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Cool Idea! Ill help you out with Nintendo's 2007 Line-up! + my score predictions!

1st Party


NEWS

Nintendo's_1st_Party_Lineup_for_2007

Nintendo_Releases_Q-2_Wii_Lineup


AAA - Super Mario Galaxy - TBA 2007 (Rumor: October)


Pics
Videos
Preview

AA - Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - TBA


Pics
Videos
Preview
Official_Trailer

A-AA -  Pokemon Battle Revolution - June 25


Pics
Videos
Preview

AA - Disaster: Day of Crysis - TBA 2007


Pics
More_Pics
Videos
Preview
Extended_Trailer!

A-AA - Kirby - TBA 2007


Pics
Videos
Proof_of_Wii_Release

A-AA - Mario Party 8 - May 29


Pics
Videos
Preview

AAA - Metroid Prime 3 - TBA 2007


Pics
Videos
Preview

A - Big Brain Acadamy Wii - June 11


Pics
Videos
Preview

AA - Project H.A.M.M.E.R. - TBA 2007


Pics
Videos
Preview

AA - Battalion Wars 2 - TBA 2007


Pics
More_Pics
Videos
Preview

A - DK Jet - June 28


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Videos
Hands_On_(Gamecube_Version)
New_Info
A-AA - Super Mario Strikers - TBA 2007 (Summer)


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Videos
Preview

AAA - Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - TBA 2007


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Videos
Preview

A-AA - Forever Blue - TBA 2007


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First_Details

Others:
  • A - Wii Music -(2007)

Videos
Preview
New_Info

  • A - Wii Health Pack - (2007)

New_Info

  • A-AA - Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - (December 2007)
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i know u wanna help. but A games dont count in my book sorry. oh and i didnt include forever blue. any reason i should?
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all 3 of the lineups are pretty weak. JPOBS
what they have currently yes. what they have coming up plus what they got. then u got somethign worhty bragging about.
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Your thread was good up until you got to killzone, your fanboyism was annoying....

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Your thread was good up until you got to killzone, your fanboyism was annoying....

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hey i showed no fanboyism on any other game. just killzone. and thats not fanboyism. thats bieng a hater. I respect sony. IF insomniac was making killzone. Then heck id say it could make it. but i really have zero hope for that game. but u are right i am trying to be unbiased, ill edit my killzone post.
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I disagree with these and I put my expected scores. Halo 3: AA, Banjoo AA, Ratchet and Clank AA, Lair AAA, Heavenly Sword AAA
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[QUOTE="Evil-Zero86"]

Your thread was good up until you got to killzone, your fanboyism was annoying....

jg4xchamp
hey i showed no fanboyism on any other game. just killzone. and thats not fanboyism. thats bieng a hater. I respect sony. IF insomniac was making killzone. Then heck id say it could make it. but i really have zero hope for that game. but u are right i am trying to be unbiased, ill edit my killzone post.

I think Evil zero is the one's who's the more fanboy here. Let's just summarize: Guerilla has no good track record, first killzone was NOT good. As it is now, all we have from killzone 2 is a CGI trailer and sony's word. As sony's word isn't a very valuable thing, I think jg4xchamp made a good prediction.  
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You posted a number of six times in a row. Three of them within the span of two minutes. Anyway I like the list and think it is as relatively accurate as anyone can get it from what we know now.
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I disagree with these and I put my expected scores. Halo 3: AA, Banjoo AA, Ratchet and Clank AA, Lair AAA, Heavenly Sword AAAhamidious
hey Halos score isnt going down cause lets get real anything less would be a disapointment. and if u can give me good reasons why Ratchet and Banjo will be AA and Lair and HS will be AAA ill change the score no problem.
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You posted a number of six times in a row. Three of them within the span of two minutes. Anyway I like the list and think it is as relatively accurate as anyone can get it from what we know now.t2wave
well i got no responses and i put in a lot of work. so hey i bumped it up alot, kind of like im doing now.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Evil-Zero86"]

Your thread was good up until you got to killzone, your fanboyism was annoying....

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hey i showed no fanboyism on any other game. just killzone. and thats not fanboyism. thats bieng a hater. I respect sony. IF insomniac was making killzone. Then heck id say it could make it. but i really have zero hope for that game. but u are right i am trying to be unbiased, ill edit my killzone post.

I think Evil zero is the one's who's the more fanboy here. Let's just summarize: Guerilla has no good track record, first killzone was NOT good. As it is now, all we have from killzone 2 is a CGI trailer and sony's word. As sony's word isn't a very valuable thing, I think jg4xchamp made a good prediction.  

Thank u, if that game gets AA thats huge IMO. The game stunk last time by. SO if the sequal can actually be purchase worthy whats wrong with it. oh but i think u missed my original post. I edited it. I kinda bashed while i gave killzone its score i even said "be grateful im even putting this on the list"
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. jg4xchamp
yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one. Otherwise you'd get the situation where Final Fantasy 11 is a 1st party Sony game (since they published the PS2 version) despite the fact it was on both 360 and PC (published by Square Enix).

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway.

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i guess this thread is ultimately doomed, how does a thread that bashes not one system and showcases a great lineup of games get no praise. But a bashing thread, a PS3 FTW thread, an annoying Bruton thread get all the love in the world.
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Good list.. kinda seems like your a lemming, but... fairly unbiased, admitedly..

Anyway, I'm just wondering why you listed games that the companies published? MS had no part in gears development (except for that map BS, though.. they probably did rush them to meat ps3 release... not the point)... but still, It's like claiming Sony made FF7... 

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. Danm_999

yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one.

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway. 

With Microsoft as the Publisher. Like Halo 2 eventually went to PC with Microsoft as the publisher. Gears is still a second party game which Microsoft makes money off of as much as epic. Same will happen on PC. Microsoft makes games for both PC and 360. ITs not exclusives, its 1st/2nd party games. Its not like Gears is going multiplat to PS3 or Wii.
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#37 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. jg4xchamp

yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one.

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway.

With Microsoft as the Publisher. Like Halo 2 eventually went to PC with Microsoft as the publisher. Gears is still a second party game which Microsoft makes money off of as much as epic. Same will happen on PC. Microsoft makes games for both PC and 360. ITs not exclusives, its 1st/2nd party games. Its not like Gears is going multiplat to PS3 or Wii.

My added example (on the edit) of Final Fantasy 11 problematises your argument. 

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#38 jg4xchamp
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Good list.. kinda seems like your a lemming, but... fairly unbiased, admitedly..

Anyway, I'm just wondering why you listed games that the companies published? MS had no part in gears development (except for that map BS, though.. they probably did rush them to meat ps3 release... not the point)... but still, It's like claiming Sony made FF7... 

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First im no lemming. I have both a 360 and a Wii. I just think certain games have more chance at AAA than others. in terms of 1st party. If someone can give me a just reason to a game i did not make AAA than i will change the score. Also will it make everyone feel better if i edit gears to say its just published so its kind of in the middle between 2nd party and 3rd party.
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#39 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. Danm_999

yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one.

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway.

With Microsoft as the Publisher. Like Halo 2 eventually went to PC with Microsoft as the publisher. Gears is still a second party game which Microsoft makes money off of as much as epic. Same will happen on PC. Microsoft makes games for both PC and 360. ITs not exclusives, its 1st/2nd party games. Its not like Gears is going multiplat to PS3 or Wii.

My added example (on the edit) of Final Fantasy 11 problematises your argument. 

Ill edit the Gears thing to say its only published by microsoft. you know what screw it. im knocking it off. happy.
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#40 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. jg4xchamp

yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one.

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway.

With Microsoft as the Publisher. Like Halo 2 eventually went to PC with Microsoft as the publisher. Gears is still a second party game which Microsoft makes money off of as much as epic. Same will happen on PC. Microsoft makes games for both PC and 360. ITs not exclusives, its 1st/2nd party games. Its not like Gears is going multiplat to PS3 or Wii.

My added example (on the edit) of Final Fantasy 11 problematises your argument.

Ill edit the Gears thing to say its only published by microsoft. you know what screw it. im knocking it off. happy.

Not really, I just wanted to point out why we relate 1st/2nd/3rd party by developer and not publisher. 

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#41 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Epic isn't a second party, they're third-party. Danm_999

yes but MS published it. SO gears isnt a 3rd party game. ITs second party. Like how Nintendo had namco make starfox. still 1st/2nd party game. not the dev.

Doesn't matter, it's based on the developer, not the publisher. Games have multiple publishers, so you don't go by that, you go by developers as they rarely have more than one.

Gears of War is going multiplat anyway.

With Microsoft as the Publisher. Like Halo 2 eventually went to PC with Microsoft as the publisher. Gears is still a second party game which Microsoft makes money off of as much as epic. Same will happen on PC. Microsoft makes games for both PC and 360. ITs not exclusives, its 1st/2nd party games. Its not like Gears is going multiplat to PS3 or Wii.

My added example (on the edit) of Final Fantasy 11 problematises your argument.

Ill edit the Gears thing to say its only published by microsoft. you know what screw it. im knocking it off. happy.

Not really, I just wanted to point out why we relate 1st/2nd/3rd party by developer and not publisher. 

im just saying that microsoft might probably have some say in the gears license. Im not sure, but hey looked up published by Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony and put them on the list. so thats why.
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#42 hamidious
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Ratchet and Clank and Banjooi probably high AA because they are probably the same old stuff on N64 and PS2 with an upgrade.

Halo 3 I expect it to be the same old, same old, with Halo 2 on the PC proving that the forumula is no longer fresh.

Lair is very Epic with huge environements and big battles. It seems like a unique game, AAA.

Lastly Heavenly sword is very fast paced and action packed, with the timer clicking it will probably add to the thrill so AAA, besides Sony does a great job on such games, like God of War. 

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insomniac is like epic.

3rd party, not owned by a console maker, but insomniac works exclusively 

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#44 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Well, I agreed with the MS and Nintendo stuff, for the most part.

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#45 Stumpt25
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]kooljg4xchamp
thank u atleast someone gave a congrats on this.

 dude... ure lack of modesty is embarrassing...

 anyway, half the comments were so bias with no backup to your clams. e.g banjo is going to be AAA yet Heavenly sword isnt!

seriously... fanboyism

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#46 Danm_999
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insomniac is like epic.

3rd party, not owned by a console maker, but insomniac works exclusively

Awinagainov

Epic doesn't work exclusively however. UT3 is coming to the PS3. 

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#47 Stumpt25
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and this thread is crap so no... it will never get sticked...

 and all the guy sed is "kool", hes not congradulating you

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#48 jg4xchamp
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insomniac is like epic.

3rd party, not owned by a console maker, but insomniac works exclusively 

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yeah but ratchet is basically a sony second party game so it stays.
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#49 Teuf_
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insomniac is like epic.

3rd party, not owned by a console maker, but insomniac works exclusively

Awinagainov

That makes them 2nd-party, since they're exclusive to Sony.  Epic isn't exclusive to anyone. 

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#50 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]koolStumpt25

thank u atleast someone gave a congrats on this.

 dude... ure lack of modesty is embarrassing...

 anyway, half the comments were so bias with no backup to your clams. e.g banjo is going to be AAA yet Heavenly sword isnt!

seriously... fanboyism

i would gladly change the score prediction if someone gives me legit reasons. I didnt say anything bad about a game except minor flaws. I also based things on dev history sheesh. Banjo is a proven AAA series. Rare is really good. Happy i bumped up Heavenly Sword because SOny does good with these kinds of games, but the dev team doest have that great of a history. Sheesh overreacting much. and how was i fanboy, i didnt bash nintendo, i didnt bash microsoft, i absolutely showed my love for uncharted and how epic it looks. Im probably buying all 3. Get ur facts straight. sheeshe chill out.