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#1 rocoswav
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From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

http://www.n4g.com/events_tgs2008/News-213574.aspx

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#2 Erik_Lensherr
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From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

http://www.n4g.com/events_tgs2008/News-213574.aspx

rocoswav

1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.

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#4 Cedmln
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Yes they did say that. I heard it. They say it doesn't look as good in motion as it seems.
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#5 sargentbotk
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It looks really good in the recent videos. Those enough prove that it graphically looks great.
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#6 PS3Breeder
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Yes they did say that. I heard it. They say it doesn't look as good in motion as it seems.Cedmln

they must didnt see this

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/903309/star-ocean-4/videos/starocean_tgsclip1_100908.html

everyone on the web says this game looks amazing.

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#7 rocoswav
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well thats the thing my friend, there saying it doesn't look like that anymore. they claim its been downgraded from the original screens tha debuted

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#8 PS3Breeder
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[QUOTE="PS3Breeder"]

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well thats the thing my friend, there saying it doesn't look like that anymore. they claim its been downgraded from the original screens tha debuted

Whatever , more people than 1up on the web agree that star ocean 4 looks awesome .

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#9 Vaasman
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1up is really desperate for hits, they will say anything. I remember the thing with Mass Effect where they said tons of negative things about it and didn't once mention a good thing, it was so obvious they were trying to get attention. It was sad really.
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[QUOTE="PS3Breeder"]

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rocoswav

well thats the thing my friend, there saying it doesn't look like that anymore. they claim its been downgraded from the original screens tha debuted

and those were just released afew days ago.. did you even see any of the gameplay videos from IGN?

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#11 BioShockOwnz
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I saw the gameplay graphics and I disagree 110%. This game looks phenomenal. 1UP Yours also said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game.
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#12 njean777
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1up is really desperate for hits, they will say anything. I remember the thing with Mass Effect where they said tons of

negative things about it and didn't once mention a good thing, it was so obvious they were trying to get attention. It was sad really.Vaasman

actually i agree with 1 up ME was horrible. Alls that it was is a KOTOR wannabe.

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#13 Cloud_Insurance
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its an rpg. Graphics are not a main concern.
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#14 DeadSpaceXIII
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[QUOTE="rocoswav"]

From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

http://www.n4g.com/events_tgs2008/News-213574.aspx

Erik_Lensherr

1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.

damage control? :lol: all of a sudden they're cows? Well SO4 looks awesome, i've been willing to give Tri-Ace another chance after SO3 and Infinite Undiscovery. I have high expectations for SO4. Guess we gotta wait and see.
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its an rpg. Graphics are not a main concern.Cloud_Insurance

Sadly in this generation, it seems like more people care about the graphics more so then the actual gameplay.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]1up is really desperate for hits, they will say anything. I remember the thing with Mass Effect where they said tons of

negative things about it and didn't once mention a good thing, it was so obvious they were trying to get attention. It was sad really.njean777

actually i agree with 1 up ME was horrible. Alls that it was is a KOTOR wannabe.

Not really. People like to compare them because they're both epic sci-fi games with conversation systems, but aside from that, both of the games are radically different.

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#17 Pariah_001
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1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.Erik_Lensherr

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.Pariah_001

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.Pariah_001

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Then what are you here for, go post there instead.

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#20 haris12121212
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Yeah, whatever, the reviews gave Star Ocean 3 in the 7-8's and yet it was one of my most favourite jrpg of last gen. I'm pretty sure SO 4 will be awesome.
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#21 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.Marka1700

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Then what are you here for, go post there instead.

You're kicking him out because he doesn't agree with gamespot?:lol:

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#22 dream431ca
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Star Ocean 3 was the worst one in the series so far IMO. I hope Star Ocean 4 doesn't fall victim to the same horrid fighting mechanics. SO3 had the worst fighting IMO.
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#23 njean777
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.BioShockOwnz

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

Well that is their opinions i actually like 1 up for reviews and news but i hate their forums. But yes ME was horrible compared to KOTOR i mean the story was cliche, the game played horrible (glitches, framerate). It was like they rushed it which i think they should of delayed it personally.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.njean777

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

Well that is their opinions i actually like 1 up for reviews and news but i hate their forums. But yes ME was horrible compared to KOTOR i mean the story was cliche, the game played horrible (glitches, framerate). It was like they rushed it which i think they should of delayed it personally.

Sure, they can have their opinion, even if said opinion is so out in left field. And that's why their credibility was flushed down the toilet. Everyone can have an opinion, but common sense usually has to play a key role.

Played horrible? Sounds like your 360/PC is broken. It played dandy for me. Oh well.

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#25 souledge474
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In an earlier podcast 1up also said soul calibur 4's character models didnt look good, and the backgrounds look like a ps2 game :|
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#26 leadernator
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I saw the gameplay graphics and I disagree 110%. This game looks phenomenal. 1UP Yours also said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game.BioShockOwnz

There you go showing your bias again.

If it wasn't for its exclusivity, no one would have dared to hype SO4 AAA. The series is lost with a dev team that couldn't deliver last gen. How have they been doing lately? Infinite Undiscovery :|

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#27 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="rocoswav"]

From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

http://www.n4g.com/events_tgs2008/News-213574.aspx

Erik_Lensherr

1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.

Not really. Actually, they're more prone to 360. Shane is the only PS3 fan there.

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#28 njean777
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[QUOTE="njean777"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.BioShockOwnz

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

Well that is their opinions i actually like 1 up for reviews and news but i hate their forums. But yes ME was horrible compared to KOTOR i mean the story was cliche, the game played horrible (glitches, framerate). It was like they rushed it which i think they should of delayed it personally.

Sure, they can have their opinion, even if said opinion is so out in left field. And that's why their credibility was flushed down the toilet. Everyone can have an opinion, but common sense usually has to play a key role.

Played horrible? Sounds like your 360/PC is broken. It played dandy for me. Oh well.

no my 360 is fine but i was one of the many that the game froze, framerate was slow in big battles, and even when you were walking the screen tearing was terrible sometimes.

True but i still think 1up is more credible then gamespot on reviews you have to understand the podcasts are not really always the people who review the game.

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#29 Episode_Eve
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no my 360 is fine but i was one of the many that the game froze, framerate was slow in big battles, and even when you were walking the screen tearing was terrible sometimes.

True but i still think 1up is more credible then gamespot on reviews you have to understand the podcasts are not really always the people who review the game.

njean777

I had the same issues with ME. But aside from that, 1up has its share of wtf moments during podcasts, but they're fun to listen to.

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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.BioShockOwnz

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

Both 1up and gamespot have said enough nonsense to not believe anything they write.

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#31 Pariah_001
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]1Up = Cows am confirmed, when it goes multiplat there tune will change.BioShockOwnz

Do you actually believe that?

1Up is much more credible than Gamespot.

Well, 1UP Yours said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game, so those few journalists on that particular show threw their credibility right out the window with that silly comment.

BioshockOwnz certainly enjoys his hyperbole.

The only thing that's silly is the idea that Eternal Sonata looks reminescent of anything other than Dreamcast simply because you say so.

As far as I'm concerned, they were right on the money. The game is cell-shaded for crying out loud. It's very specialized and can look stylistic, but it's still pretty basic.

So you see, the matter isn't as clear cut as you'd like to label it. Even if I didn't agree with them, I could still understand why they'd say it. So no, they didn't "throw their credibility right out the window."

1Up is very credible.

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#32 Pariah_001
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Then what are you here for, go post there instead.

Marka1700

I would, but 1Up doesn't have as active a community as Gamespot does. Their boards are less restrictive, but they're also very dead.

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#33 Eltroz
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I think most people at 1-up are fair gamers but this podcast came from 1-up yours. Shane Bettenhausen for example is a bigger Sony fanboy then basicly anyone that comes to this forum. He acts like a rabid 12 year old Sony fanboy throughout every show. That is one of the only podcasts I do not listen to anymore over there. I mean my god if this game was a PS3 exclusive but was using stick figures the 1-up yous show would be acting as if was AAA no doubt. I can not even believe someone even gives any game info from them credit.

Listening to 1-up yours talk about 360 games is kinda like if you listened to Shane Kim talk about PS3 games. It is pointless.

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#34 mephisto_11
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I think most people at 1-up are fair gamers but this podcast came from 1-up yours. Shane Bettenhausen for example is a bigger Sony fanboy then basicly anyone that comes to this forum. He acts like a rabid 12 year old Sony fanboy throughout every show. That is one of the only podcasts I do not listen to anymore over there. I mean my god if this game was a PS3 exclusive but was using stick figures the 1-up yous show would be acting as if was AAA no doubt. I can not even believe someone even gives any game info from them credit.

Listening to 1-up yours talk about 360 games is kinda like if you listened to Shane Kim talk about PS3 games. It is pointless.

Eltroz

lol yeah thats the dude. major fanboy. even more so than me

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#35 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]its an rpg. Graphics are not a main concern.Dr_Snood

Sadly in this generation, it seems like more people care about the graphics more so then the actual gameplay.

thats because this gen gameplay consists of Gears of War ripoffs and GTA ripoffs, or a mix of both, so the only thing worth looking up to is graphics :(

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#36 BioShockOwnz
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BioshockOwnz certainly enjoys his hyperbole.

The only thing that's silly is the idea that Eternal Sonata looks reminescent of anything other than Dreamcast simply because you say so.

As far as I'm concerned, they were right on the money. The game is cell-shaded for crying out loud. It's very specialized and can look stylistic, but it's still pretty basic.

So you see, the matter isn't as clear cut as you'd like to label it. Even if I didn't agree with them, I could still understand why they'd say it. So no, they didn't "throw their credibility right out the window."

1Up is very credible.

Pariah_001

Nope, but I'm glad you think so. Because, remember... just because you think they're credible, doesn't mean they are. ;) 2 can play at that game.

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#37 110million
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]BioshockOwnz certainly enjoys his hyperbole.

The only thing that's silly is the idea that Eternal Sonata looks reminescent of anything other than Dreamcast simply because you say so.

As far as I'm concerned, they were right on the money. The game is cell-shaded for crying out loud. It's very specialized and can look stylistic, but it's still pretty basic.

So you see, the matter isn't as clear cut as you'd like to label it. Even if I didn't agree with them, I could still understand why they'd say it. So no, they didn't "throw their credibility right out the window."

1Up is very credible.

BioShockOwnz

Nope, but I'm glad you think so. Because, remember... just because you think they're credible, doesn't mean they are. ;) 2 can play at that game.

So true, their actually one of the last sources I'd ever check for reviews, previews or anything, sometimes I have to stop reading since their bias in some fields just pours out like a faucet on maximum, they give some AAA titles, as low as a 6 sometimes, for extremly minor gameplay flaws.. the list goes on and on, I also have quite a distaste for their staff as a whole.

SO4 looks awesome, I don't care if it doesn't look 100% like those screens, the gameplay video still looked awesome, and I'll be pre-ordering it closer to its release.

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The backgrounds look terrible, but the models look fantastic
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#39 FirstDiscovery
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I saw the gameplay graphics and I disagree 110%. This game looks phenomenal. 1UP Yours also said Eternal Sonata looked like a Dreamcast game.BioShockOwnz
Hey its only like the best looking cell-shaded game ever, nothing to see is there?:roll:
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#40 Vandalvideo
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The series is lost with a dev team that couldn't deliver last gen. How have they been doing lately? Infinite Undiscovery :|leadernator
Did you even bother buying and playing Infinite Undiscovery? The core game is great, the only problem is the voice acting destroys willful suspension of disbelief. If you turn the sound off and watch the game play out without the VO you can see the potential this game had, and has. It would have gotten such a higher score had they taken the time to get some good VO talent or atleast kept the JP VO in there.
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#41 the-obiwan
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w00t Eternal Sonata And SO4 FaWeSoMe DooD!. :]
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#42 Czenkus
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1up does the same as other sites do from time to time, Rip a game allot of folks are looking forward to/think highly of, to get some traffic.
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From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

rocoswav

/Thread.

PS3Breeder

READ!

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#44 PS3Breeder
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[QUOTE="rocoswav"]

From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

Chutebox

/Thread.

PS3Breeder

READ!

i did read and the pictures and videos look equal.

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#45 Gen007
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first of all it looks great and since when did graphics make star ocean.
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#46 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocoswav"]

From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

PS3Breeder

/Thread.

PS3Breeder

READ!

i did read and the pictures and videos look equal.

You obviously didn't.

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#47 PS3Breeder
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[QUOTE="PS3Breeder"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rocoswav"]

From the latest 1up Yours Podcast,1up Editors discuss Star Ocean 4:The Last Hope,detailing how the graphics do not live up to the screenshots and specifically how the Character models look very low-poly

looks like there rushing it

Chutebox

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PS3Breeder

READ!

i did read and the pictures and videos look equal.

You obviously didn't.

obviously i did, if i said i did.

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#48 Senor_Kami
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1up also posted an article praising the game. I'm guessing that PS3 fanboy was the one complaining about it. I don't know his name, but they give him like a 10 minute rant section every week (I don't know why they seem to idolize him) and he never has anything positive to say about the 360.

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#49 naruto7777
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it looks great
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]The series is lost with a dev team that couldn't deliver last gen. How have they been doing lately? Infinite Undiscovery :|Vandalvideo
Did you even bother buying and playing Infinite Undiscovery? The core game is great, the only problem is the voice acting destroys willful suspension of disbelief. If you turn the sound off and watch the game play out without the VO you can see the potential this game had, and has. It would have gotten such a higher score had they taken the time to get some good VO talent or atleast kept the JP VO in there.

I'm sure better Voice Acting would have gave the game a 9.0 :|

People don't have to play LAIR to know it's not that great.