http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
It's a pretty good article definitely worth the read. Basically it's just saying that ps3 isn't failing. its doing normal.
You have to make the cows happyabout something.
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Except that it fails to address that consumers now have a choice between the two consoles - they see the PS3 & Xbox 360 on the shelf and can make a decision on which one they'd like, and they are so far choosing the 360.
If this trend continues, if the 360 continues to outsell the PS3 head to head, that speaks a lot louder than comparing the first four months in each console's launch. It shows that people are buying the Xbox 360 over the PS3, and that's good news for Microsoft & bad news for Sony.
[QUOTE="lazzordude"]yet some fanboys still think the ps3 is deadasmallchildScared, jealous fanboys I might add.
Yeah the thing is casuals are starting to think its dead too, hence the plummet of popularity and demand...that's what you should be more concerned about.
It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
Iyethar
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
It's a pretty good article definitely worth the read. Basically it's just saying that ps3 isn't failing. its doing normal.
You have to make the cows happyabout something.
skazbot
Does not matter to developers if it does outsell it, but rather the install base when they release their games, and i do not see PS3 sales getting them there, will always be far behind as it seems, so expect titles like FF13 to jump ship
BTW what does PS3 have to match the sales Mass Effect and Two Worlds will bring in May, or Bioshock, blue Dragon, Elveon, Ovelord in summer, or Lost odyssey, Eternal Sonata, HALO 3 !!!!!!!!!!, Too Human, Fable 2 !!!!! in late2007 ???
That would be nothing !!! All is basedon the assumption that 360 sales will remain low, OF COURSE they are lower ince those games are not out yet, you do realise Halo 3 will make the console FLY ??? Same with Mass Effect to a lesser extend, and all the other games will help vastly too
[QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
diggyzoom
Doubtful.
[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
thirstychainsaw
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
[QUOTE="skazbot"]http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
It's a pretty good article definitely worth the read. Basically it's just saying that ps3 isn't failing. its doing normal.
You have to make the cows happyabout something.
conceru3
Does not matter to developers if it does outsell it, but rather the install base when they release their games, and i do not see PS3 sales getting them there, will always be far behind as it seems, so expect titles like FF13 to jump ship
BTW what does PS3 have to match the sales Mass Effect and Two Worlds will bring in May, or Bioshock, blue Dragon, Elveon, Ovelord in summer, or Lost odyssey, Eternal Sonata, HALO 3 !!!!!!!!!!, Too Human, Fable 2 !!!!! in late2007 ???
That would be nothing !!! All is basedon the assumption that 360 sales will remain low, OF COURSE they are lower ince those games are not out yet, you do realise Halo 3 will make the console FLY ??? Same with Mass Effect to a lesser extend, and all the other games will help vastly too
I forgot that we get Shivering Isles ONLY on 360 tomorrow !!! That would reason enough for 360 to outsell PS3 in March too
[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
diggyzoom
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
thirstychainsaw
Doubtful.
mmmmk.50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, I'm uncertain about the Europeans though. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
they drop for a little while after the smoke clears from europe and then when the fall hits they'll shoot up (im hoping)[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
thirstychainsaw
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
Point is, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Halo 3, Fable 2, Blue Dragon will drive huge sales for 360 in 2007, and Cry On, Alan Wake, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery early next year
And even if the following games do come to PS3 some day, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Two Worlds, Elveon, so far they are still not confirmed or coming to PS3 at all, so they will drive sales too for 360 leaving PS3 even further behind (let aside that i would never buy the WASHED OUT PS3 versions with no color and shadows !!! like Oblivion case)
The only big titles for PS3 this year, 360 gets too, like RE5, Assasins Creed, and DMC4
march was the start of something beautiful for the ps3. wait till home comes out. 360 its over kidse20Dylan360 wont die, are you kidding me?
[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
thirstychainsaw
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
March is like a mini relaunch for the PS3 in NA because of the number of games hitting. It should hold its own there. Obviously it is beating the 360 in Japan and of course more ps3s are going to sell in March in Europe than 360s will.Doubtful would be how one would describe the 360 beating the ps3 in March.
[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
diggyzoom
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
March is like a mini relaunch for the PS3 in NA because of the number of games hitting. It should hold its own there. Obviously it is beating the 360 in Japan and of course more ps3s are going to sell in March in Europe than 360s will.Doubtful would be how one would describe the 360 beating the ps3 in March.
Point is, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Halo 3, Fable 2, Blue Dragon will drive huge sales for 360 in 2007, and Cry On, Alan Wake, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery early next year
And even if the following games do come to PS3 some day, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Two Worlds, Elveon, so far they are still not confirmed or coming to PS3 at all, so they will drive sales too for 360 leaving PS3 even further behind (let aside that i would never buy the WASHED OUT PS3 versions with no color and shadows !!! like Oblivion case)
The only big titles for PS3 this year, 360 gets too, like RE5, Assasins Creed, and DMC4, so which games come in March again ??
[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
diggyzoom
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
March is like a mini relaunch for the PS3 in NA because of the number of games hitting. It should hold its own there. Obviously it is beating the 360 in Japan and of course more ps3s are going to sell in March in Europe than 360s will.Doubtful would be how one would describe the 360 beating the ps3 in March.
Again doubtful, people aren't going to buy the PS3 for multiplatform games found on the 360. And judging by France, PS3 did not do well in Europe.
[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
conceru3
Doubtful.
mmmmk.50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
Point is, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Halo 3, Fable 2, Blue Dragon will drive huge sales for 360 in 2007, and Cry On, Alan Wake, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery early next year
And even if the following games do come to PS3 some day, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Two Worlds, Elveon, so far they are still not confirmed or coming to PS3 at all, so they will drive sales too for 360 leaving PS3 even further behind (let aside that i would never buy the WASHED OUT PS3 versions with no color and shadows !!! like Oblivion case)
The only big titles for PS3 this year, 360 gets too, like RE5, Assasins Creed, and DMC4
[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
conceru3
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
Point is, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, Halo 3, Fable 2, Blue Dragon will drive huge sales for 360 in 2007, and Cry On, Alan Wake, Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery early next year
And even if the following games do come to PS3 some day, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Two Worlds, Elveon, so far they are still not confirmed or coming to PS3 at all, so they will drive sales too for 360 leaving PS3 even further behind (let aside that i would never buy the WASHED OUT PS3 versions with no color and shadows !!! like Oblivion case)
The only big titles for PS3 this year, 360 gets too, like RE5, Assasins Creed, and DMC4
I know some 360 owners who wont be buying any of those games except for halo3. They are obviously not hardcore gamers I believe that many of the 360 owners aren't hardcore gamers. They just like sports games.[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]It is going to beat the 360 worldwide in the month of March by a good bit so that is going to be a start.Maintaining a slight edge over historical Xbox 360 sales will always leave the PS3 approximately a year behind.
It cannot catch up to Xbox 360, let alone pass it, without beating current sales. This is a mathematical truism.
thirstychainsaw
Doubtful.
mmmmk.
50% decrease in sales in the USA from January to February, slow sales in Japan, and the European launch doesn't look good. With no big titled games coming out soo PS3 sales are probably only to drop.
March is like a mini relaunch for the PS3 in NA because of the number of games hitting. It should hold its own there. Obviously it is beating the 360 in Japan and of course more ps3s are going to sell in March in Europe than 360s will.Doubtful would be how one would describe the 360 beating the ps3 in March.
Again doubtful, people aren't going to buy the PS3 for multiplatform games found on the 360. And judging by France, PS3 did not do well in Europe.
Motorstorm is not multiplatform (heavily anticipated and marketed game btw), and France isn't neccessarily the best indicator of the ps3's launch success over the month of March for all of Europe.
Well, I've done a little research by myself and that are the results. Of course this doesn't show any numbers referring on how many are sold, but it gives you quite a glimpse of what the customers buy at the moment.
This are the Top 100 Video Game Charts of Amazon
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Canada
* actually non of them in the charts... ???
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US
5. Wii
9. PS3
23. XBox360
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Japan
60. PS3
* no Wii and no 360
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UK
2. PS3
52. XBox360
* no Wii
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Germany
7. PS3
13. XBox360 (Core)
64. Wii
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France
6. Wii
7. PS3
* no XBox360
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If you don't believe it, go and check it out yourself
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
It's a pretty good article definitely worth the read. Basically it's just saying that ps3 isn't failing. its doing normal.
You have to make the cows happyabout something.
skazbot
This destroys any fanboy arguement that has been attempted in this thread.
360 sold out it's first four months, except in the first four months of 360 launch there was supply issues. There are no supply issues with PS3 and they are still not selling out.rexoverbey
You don't get it. The Supply issues helped with the 360 SELLING OUT. Sony did a much better job stocking up the PS3, so it selling out was a lot tougher because their were A LOT MORE UNITS. Of course, Sonyis trying to catch up,so this was on purpose.
360 sold out it's first four months, except in the first four months of 360 launch there was supply issues. There are no supply issues with PS3 and they are still not selling out.rexoverbeyDoesn't change the fact that thus far in its life cycle, the PS3 is performing about the same as the Xbox360. "Flop" is a word that was prematurely thrown about.
If we are looking from the perspective of both consoles both being released at the same time, this would be all well and good. Sony would be riding high at the moment.
But we aren't looking from that perspective. The 360 has been out a year longer, it has 10 million units out there, with a very high attach rate for games on their console and a second generation of games coming out. Not only that, the PS3 will be waiting until 2008 for its landmark titles to come out, whereas the 360 has already had one huge title, and Halo 3 is now on the horizon.
Companies, like Capcom, look for what systems are doing well now, they don't subscribe to "oh if the consoles had both come out at the same time, this one would be doing better," because that's not how they will make money from their games.
Yes, the PS3 is selling better than the 360. In a sense. But does that really matter in the grand scheme of things?
[QUOTE="conceru3"][QUOTE="skazbot"]http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158204
It's a pretty good article definitely worth the read. Basically it's just saying that ps3 isn't failing. its doing normal.
You have to make the cows happyabout something.
conceru3
Does not matter to developers if it does outsell it, but rather the install base when they release their games, and i do not see PS3 sales getting them there, will always be far behind as it seems, so expect titles like FF13 to jump ship
BTW what does PS3 have to match the sales Mass Effect and Two Worlds will bring in May, or Bioshock, blue Dragon, Elveon, Ovelord in summer, or Lost odyssey, Eternal Sonata, HALO 3 !!!!!!!!!!, Too Human, Fable 2 !!!!! in late2007 ???
That would be nothing !!! All is basedon the assumption that 360 sales will remain low, OF COURSE they are lower ince those games are not out yet, you do realise Halo 3 will make the console FLY ??? Same with Mass Effect to a lesser extend, and all the other games will help vastly too
I forgot that we get Shivering Isles ONLY on 360 tomorrow !!! That would reason enough for 360 to outsell PS3 in March too
Once again, I ask for a reliable source that says that SI will not come out for PS3. Besides, A few million PC users will be getting it too, won't they?[QUOTE="rexoverbey"]360 sold out it's first four months, except in the first four months of 360 launch there was supply issues. There are no supply issues with PS3 and they are still not selling out.asmallchildDoesn't change the fact that thus far in its life cycle, the PS3 is performing about the same as the Xbox360. "Flop" is a word that was prematurely thrown about. Hey when the previous console sold (supposedly) 300 million world-wide, and the new one is struggling in third place the generation right after. Thats what we in the goat business call "Flopping" If this was the Wii putting up PS3 numbers, we'd all say. "Well, Gamecube did bad.. atleast this ones competing."
que?Except that it fails to address that consumers now have a choice between the two consoles - they see the PS3 & Xbox 360 on the shelf and can make a decision on which one they'd like, and they are so far choosing the 360.
If this trend continues, if the 360 continues to outsell the PS3 head to head, that speaks a lot louder than comparing the first four months in each console's launch. It shows that people are buying the Xbox 360 over the PS3, and that's good news for Microsoft & bad news for Sony.
thinicer
[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"]360 sold out it's first four months, except in the first four months of 360 launch there was supply issues. There are no supply issues with PS3 and they are still not selling out.Stig-FTWDoesn't change the fact that thus far in its life cycle, the PS3 is performing about the same as the Xbox360. "Flop" is a word that was prematurely thrown about. Hey when the previous console sold (supposedly) 300 million world-wide, and the new one is struggling in third place the generation right after. Thats what we in the goat business call "Flopping" If this was the Wii putting up PS3 numbers, we'd all say. "Well, Gamecube did bad.. atleast this ones competing." Didn't PS3 launch just before last Christmas? Well 360 crushed PS3 in sales during December and that is Christmas and launch for PS3. I am guess a large group of PS3 possible future owners when it came time thought the 360 was a better choice because of all the lies from Sony and price. That is why 360 is doing better number wise last 4 months
[QUOTE="Stig-FTW"][QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"]360 sold out it's first four months, except in the first four months of 360 launch there was supply issues. There are no supply issues with PS3 and they are still not selling out.rybe1025Doesn't change the fact that thus far in its life cycle, the PS3 is performing about the same as the Xbox360. "Flop" is a word that was prematurely thrown about. Hey when the previous console sold (supposedly) 300 million world-wide, and the new one is struggling in third place the generation right after. Thats what we in the goat business call "Flopping" If this was the Wii putting up PS3 numbers, we'd all say. "Well, Gamecube did bad.. atleast this ones competing." Didn't PS3 launch just before last Christmas? Well 360 crushed PS3 in sales during December and that is Christmas and launch for PS3. I am guess a large group of PS3 possible future owners when it came time thought the 360 was a better choice because of all the lies from Sony and price. That is why 360 is doing better number wise last 4 months Thats a argument for the 360, more then it is defense for PS3. The truth is, alot of hearts will be broken because their brand of console doesn't have nearly the strength it did the last gen thanks to a new competitor. Its poetic justice, as they did the same to Nintendo, and Dreamcast. It will happen to Xbox brand* just the same.
Scared, jealous fanboys I might add.[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="lazzordude"]yet some fanboys still think the ps3 is deadshsonline
Yeah the thing is casuals are starting to think its dead too, hence the plummet of popularity and demand...that's what you should be more concerned about.
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