2 games with great character models, which looks better overall? *poll*(no56k)

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#1 Nedemis
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Having seen thread after thread tearing Mass Effect apart for lacking background details. I thought it only seemed fair to compare Mass Effect and MGS4 against each other because they both have amazing character models, but which one truely lacks the background detail?

Mass Effect

MGS4

I honestly tried to find pictures with more color for MGS4, but as of right now I couldn't find any. IMHO, MGS4 looks very drab and bland. Hardly any real detail other than sand, stucko and brick. Mass Effect on the other hand has a nice diverse selection of settings and looks far more impressive overall (graphics wise).

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#2 AgentA-Mi6
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I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wii or 360
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#3 Endfinal
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We saw new ME screens yesterday, and we've seen new MGS4 shots....? It's a hard comparison.
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#4 lawlessx
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I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wii or 360AgentA-Mi6

..thanks for sharing. :|

i think both games look great graphic wise and i hate to see people bash them because of their good looks.

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#5 Nedemis
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I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wii or 360AgentA-Mi6

believe away. :P

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#6 playstation2004
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I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wii or 360AgentA-Mi6

MGS4 is a sick game.

Btw, The Sig...:|

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#7 MKHavoc
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It's hard choice, I can't make my decision yet.
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I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wiiAgentA-Mi6

Blasphamy :o

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#9 DuDisNow
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Mass Effect looks a little better to me.
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#10 S1xSh0t
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mass effect
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#11 Deevoshun
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MGS really needs to use some more colors in that gazzillion color pallet that next gen systems have. Looks like someone pumped up the contrast.

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#12 Lilac_Benjie
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Mass Effect looks really cinematic. Unfortunately Metal Gear Solid 4 appears to have been downgraded since the initial showcase.
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#13 -Sora
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Mass Effect, because old snake uglies everything up :P
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#14 Doomshine
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We saw new ME screens yesterday, and we've seen new MGS4 shots....? It's a hard comparison. Endfinal

Pretty much what I was thinking, hopefully we will get new screenshots from E3 to compare with instead.

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#15 Truth-slayer
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Well MGS4 pics are in-game gameplay, the Mass Effect screens are from cutscenes. It would be nicer if you took some of the cutscene pictures from the game so we could make a better comparison, like one where we can actually see Snake's face.
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#16 foxhound_fox
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I am going to wait until both final versions are released. The amount of improvement that has been shown from BioWare with Mass Effect already is astounding. It is amazing how they are able to make low-res textures look so good.

And MGS4 will have changed significantly over the past YEAR.
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#17 PowerCharged
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MGS4 character models is not possible on the 360. the 360 won't even be able to render snake's mustache:|
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#18 grapefruit21
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the only problem I have with either game is snakes hair in the pics where you see the back of his head.
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#19 Armored_cell
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MGS4 will end up looking better.
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#20 nhh12345
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

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#21 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]I Believe Mgs4 will end ud having better graphics than anything possible on the wii or 360playstation2004

MGS4 is a sick game.

Btw, The Sig...:|

Stay On topic... My loli sig isnt the matter here:roll:

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#22 -Sora
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

Because its a Tech demo, do you know what that is?

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#23 evilbarbarian
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My most anticipated games for the 360 and PS3 respectively.. How I long for thee.
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#24 nhh12345
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[QUOTE="nhh12345"]

No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

-Sora

Because its a Tech demo, do you know what that is?

I find it funny why you are crying about a tech demo. Mass Effect has only shown tech demos of the game. They really haven't shown that much gameplay videos compared to uncharted, or halo 3.

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#25 Blind0825
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Extremely hard choice...they both indeed look amazing...but I think Mass effect has the slight edge. But who knows, it could go either way...I say we bring this back up in a year when both games are out :)
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#26 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="nhh12345"]

No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

Because its a Tech demo, do you know what that is?

I find it funny why you are crying about a tech demo. Mass Effect has only shown tech demos of the game. They really haven't shown that much gameplay videos compared to uncharted, or halo 3.

I know somebody who shouldn't be participating in this conversation because they haven't seen the Mass Effect X06 footage.

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#27 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="nhh12345"]

No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

Because its a Tech demo, do you know what that is?

I find it funny why you are crying about a tech demo. Mass Effect has only shown tech demos of the game. They really haven't shown that much gameplay videos compared to uncharted, or halo 3.

...your joking right? :|

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#28 agentfred
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Alpha build.

But, mgs4's character models far outshines mass effects. Once we see footage that doesn't use placeholder textures, I'm sure mgs4 will rock you.

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#29 Filonus
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i think both games look awesome.

Mgs4 has a long way to go yet. It'll look just as good as mASs effect does right now, ignoring the odd dodgy mass effectshot with weak textures. Imo i think the final mgs4 character models will look better than MASss effect, just because of how phenomenal konami are at that.

Can anyone explain to me why capcom's resident evil character models are so good even on gamecube in comparison to the legend of zelda on the wii !?!?!

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#30 mattyomo99
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well i gotta say about the color comment is, what kind of colors do u expect to find in a middle eastern warzone? they are not going to wear bright colorful suits.
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#31 mattyomo99
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well i think this is a good way to look at it, both games have shown great things so far and will be top of line in graphicswhen they are realesed but mass effect being a new game might have a few faults and it could be any where from a 7.5-10, but MGS4 will be a great game just because its metal gear and it will be above an 8.5. Im not bashing mass effect at all but you can never really know with a new game untill its realeased.

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#32 latinrage69
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Well MGS4 pics are in-game gameplay, the Mass Effect screens are from cutscenes. It would be nicer if you took some of the cutscene pictures from the game so we could make a better comparison, like one where we can actually see Snake's face.Truth-slayer

you're kidding right? every picture you see from mass effect are all in-game, even the cutscenes. the devs said this in the x06 videos. the reason the pics differ from month to month is that they are taking from different builds of the game. all these pics, none of which are new, are in-game. even these:

more pics here

this link is from the mass effect community forum in which even the community coordinator said the pics and vids are in-game from different builds.

for more proof of it being in-game, watch the X06 trailer and "see the best RPG of E3 in action" video to hear the devs say it's in-game.

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#33 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i think mass effect looks overall better, but the character models are better on mgs4.
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#34 lantus
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MGS4 character models is not possible on the 360. the 360 won't even be able to render snake's mustache:|PowerCharged

Wow what a convincing arguement you put up, couldn't think up of anything new could you? Why don't you just go look at more Kaz pictures, and actually leave the discussion to people who actually know something.

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#35 MoldOnHold
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Neither game is finished, but from the shots listed, Mass Effect.
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#36 Kahuna_1
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well i gotta say about the color comment is, what kind of colors do u expect to find in a middle eastern warzone? they are not going to wear bright colorful suits.mattyomo99

Yeah exactly.

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#37 OGTiago
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345
yeaaah.... think about that a second.
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#38 Nedemis
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

hold on a sec. A tech demo from E3 2005? Isn't that the EXACT same E3 where Sony said the Killzone video was real time as well? :lol: All that "real time" means to Sony is "here's a CGI video of a game being displayed at the MAX potential of the PS3's power." sry buddy, but CGI vids and cutscenes that aren't rendered in real time don't count here. This is all based off the actual character models from the in game engine. Nothing more.

BTW, I personally think that not only do the character models look far better in Mass Effect, but so the backgrounds by a mile. I'm still waiting for the PotentialStation3 to show me something that warrants me spending $600 on a over priced gaming console (I don't want Blu Ray so I wouldn't be buying because that's included).

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#39 snipe2004
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

this pic was from FF7

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#40 HappySunnGuy
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because wars always happen in nice vibrant colourful places. mgs4 is supposed to be REALISTIC, thats why ecerythings bland, because thats what an actual warzone would be like.
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#41 dgsag
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

If you're allowed to do that, then I'm sure you won't mind while I put in a pic of another game which ISNT a tech demo.

Guess who! :P

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#42 smokeb4
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mass effect looks wack i rather play mgs4 even if the other game looks better

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#43 Locke562
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No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

nhh12345

Heh.
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#44 latinrage69
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[QUOTE="nhh12345"]

No love for final fantasy 13. This is a tech demo from 2005, and it looks better then both games.

snipe2004

this pic was from FF7

that's not the point. the point was that it was a tech demo, not in-engine or in-game. that's like putting a toy story dvd in a ps2 and claiming the ps2 was capable toy story graphics.

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#45 project343
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Mass Effect's lead character is completely customizable, thus this comparison is irrelevant. Konami can throw a ton of their resources on Snake's model, perfecting every little bit. Bioware can't do that, as they have to make sure that (much like Oblivion) all the options turn out great. Comparing what we have, I'd give them a tie.


I find it funny why you are crying about a tech demo. Mass Effect has only shown tech demos of the game. They really haven'tshown that much gameplay videos compared to uncharted, or halo 3.

nhh12345


Lets see what we have for gameplay videos:
- E306 demonstration (4:18 )
- MTV trailer/gameplay (2:07)
- X06 demonstration (6:23)

Oh and your post has a fatal contradiction. See bold.