2 Reasons why Ps3 online/PSN is better than live.

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#1 -Reggaeton-
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1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

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#2 Always-Honest
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don't worry, they CAN argue with that.
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#3 doobie1975
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is every game that you play on the PSN on a dedicated server then. even private games with freinds
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#4 Blue-Sky
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If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.
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#5 Always-Honest
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is every game that you play on the PSN on a dedicated server then. even private games with freindsdoobie1975

no

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#6 whocares4peace
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Not all ps3 games have dedicated servers, case in point Call Of Duty 4.

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#7 ss_49
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1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

-Reggaeton-

Only a midget's handful of games run on dedicated servers. RFoM, Warhawk...and?

Also, since launch the public has been screaming for a better XMB interface. Cross-game invites / messaging...these are basic features...

It's been a bloody year and instead of adding things people actually care about, Sony gives you...DivX support? Awesome. :roll:

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#8 Xolver
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If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Blue-Sky

Actually, considering one aspect you look at when buying a car is miles per gallon and another is price, I would say money does come into play, and some would find the Accord better for them.

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#9 heretrix
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PSN is garbage.
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#10 axes03
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Free??!!!!so is **** on the side walk, your point is?

dedicated severs? how many POS3 games run on dedicated servers again? OH YEAH!!! you can count them in one hand.

Try harder next time.

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If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Blue-Sky

Are you talking about the company or just the car in general. I'm sure if Honda was giving out free accords people would say its better then Ferrari just for the fact they are giving out free cars.

Anyways, PSN is close to live in a vague way. Yes if you get technical there are a lot advantages Live has but in reality the only thing PSN doesn't have to put bluntly is cross game invites and cross game messaging as far as online multiplayer goes. Of course cows will say "Bu...but...but.......dedicated servers with 40+ in ResistanCE!!!!!!" and lemmings will say "we have more people talking in our games plus its just better and your service just sucks and we got movies". In reality PSN isn't that better but the TC is totally wrong, I have XBL and I got on PSN quite often and PSN doesn't match liveor is better. One thing for sure PSN is the only other alternative to XBL on consoles since it kills WiiConnect24 (which is awful with no voice chat, friend codes, and a very small library of online multiplayer games).

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#12 mightyboosh13
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I use both and PSN doesnt feel anywhere enar as solid and as good.

Some games have dedicated servers on PSN but most don't and some games on 360 give options for people with amazing connections to host dedicated. But with the dl speeds getting better all the time P2P is fine for32 or less players.

Fact is 95% of games I play on Live do not lag unless the game is badly optimised itself like PES or some random guy with a low end bb connection hosts a 16 player match.

But dedicated is a plus point and is one thing MS (imo) should offer with first party games like SOny does.

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#13 doobie1975
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has anybody seen a pic of the PSN dedicated servers.... well here's 1

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/08/08/warhawk-boasts-integrated-game-server-systemwith-rack-mounted-ps3s

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#14 hip-hop-cola2
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just wait!!! YAH!!!! :twisted: !!! *guitar solo* !!!!

srsly! XBL was terrible when it was first released and its taken time to get where it is today. PSN is fine today as-well, there's no reason to call psn bad. its dam good. the actual big differences between xbl and psn arnt that amazing.

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#15 SpruceCaboose
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Having both services, I can argue that. It may be free, but its not better than Live.

PSN is great for a free service, but it is lacking compared to XBL, which is more than understandable, since XBL has had years to hone the service, and it is a premium service.

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#16 Always-Honest
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has anybody seen a pic of the PSN dedicated servers.... well here's 1

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/08/08/warhawk-boasts-integrated-game-server-systemwith-rack-mounted-ps3s

doobie1975

that's just Warhawk

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#17 MunkeySpunk69
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you get what you pay for
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#18 Firelore29
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If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Blue-Sky

Umm....actually yes.

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#19 UnnDunn
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Same old tired reasons... "OMG PSN is FREE and that makes it BETTAR!"

Sorry, but a free service can't give you all of this. Thread phails.

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#20 AntikytheraMech
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What happens when you want to go play Warhawk in a year and the community died? Then PSN took down the servers? How are you going to play?

Dedicated =/= Better

Good Net Coding = Better

Ya Ya I know Gears of War had horrible Net Coding I agree but guess what everyone played it! Hell i loved it. Xbox lives accessibility made it all the fun.

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#21 UnnDunn
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What happens when you want to go play Warhawk in a year and the community died? Then PSN took down the servers? How are you going to play?

Dedicated =/= Better

Good Net Coding = Better

Ya Ya I know Gears of War had horrible Net Coding I agree but guess what everyone played it! Hell i loved it. Xbox lives accessibility made it all the fun.

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#22 tango90101
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Having both services, I can argue that. It may be free, but its not better than Live.

PSN is great for a free service, but it is lacking compared to XBL, which is more than understandable, since XBL has had years to hone the service, and it is a premium service.

SpruceCaboose

sony had years to hone their service too, they just chose not to...;)

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#23 Veterngamer
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If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Blue-Sky

my thoughts exactly

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#24 DiscoBurn
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Having both services, I can argue that. It may be free, but its not better than Live.

PSN is great for a free service, but it is lacking compared to XBL, which is more than understandable, since XBL has had years to hone the service, and it is a premium service.

tango90101

sony had years to hone their service too, they just chose not to...;)

Zing!

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#25 dhjohns
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1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

-Reggaeton-

You did state two things, but not sure if those are reasons for PSN to be better than XBL. It is kind of subjective.

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#26 ajames_123
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I use both psn and XBL daily both have good points and bad points.

PSN and XBL can only get better and add more features.

Ive not been let down by either service yet really.

The fact that PSN is free is a bonus tho.

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Firelore29

Umm....actually yes.

Ok how about if Ford is giving away free Pintos, would that make the Pinto better than a Ferrari?

Free=/=better

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#28 SpideR_CentS
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Have fun playing VF5 on PSN, oh wait.....

XBL >>>>>PSN its not even close.

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#29 SolidSnake35
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I prefer PSN too, simply because it's free and I don't think online gaming is worth paying for.
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#30 Videodogg
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Have fun playing VF5 on PSN, oh wait.....

XBL >>>>>PSN its not even close.

SpideR_CentS

...or Virtua Tennis 3, or try to invite friends to a GH3 match ( you cant ).

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#31 Arsenal325
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Im a cow and ill ADMIT that live is better.. BUTTT PSN really isnt far behind.. If PSN got in game xmb and acouple mroe good demos came out.. then id say PSN is better
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#32 gotenks123321
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Having both systems, I will just say that with the Xbox 360 I feel more connected to other people, and with the PS3 i kind of feel alone
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#33 Rikusaki
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If its free and it lets me play games online, thats all I need.

I don't need any of that fancy stuff.

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#34 blitzcloud
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]If Honda was handing out free Accords, it doesn't make it better than a Ferrari.Chaos_HL21

Umm....actually yes.

Ok how about if Ford is giving away free Pintos, would that make the Pinto better than a Ferrari?

Free=/=better

No, no, no.


Its more like: a glass of water please

Sony gives it for free, since its just normal water

Microsoft claims the ownership of the water and makes you pay for it. Must be better water, it costs money!

...

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#35 heretrix
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Having both systems, I will just say that with the Xbox 360 I feel more connected to other people, and with the PS3 i kind of feel alonegotenks123321
Yeah. The voice chat is pretty pathetic. I was using the 360 to chat with my friends while I played Uncharted.
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#36 thinicer
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I prefer PSN too, simply because it's free and I don't think online gaming is worth paying for.SolidSnake35

I agree with this 100%. Online play should come with Xbox Live Silver membership - it should be standard. Microsoft can then sweeten up the offerings of Gold service if they want to, like exclusive downloadable content for example.

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#37 RocKtheCasbaH
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PSN is garbage right now - infact it doesn't have some of the basic functionality that the old version of Live had when it launched back in 2002.

Things I miss most on PSN ?

  • Game invites
  • Messaging
  • Seeing what my mates are doing like what game they are on, what stage in that game, are they watching a movie or just on the media bar? Surpising how something so simple makes such a difference. It's also good for seeing what games are any good as when everyone is playing the same game it could be worth a look.
  • Voice chat whilst in different games
  • Access to my friend list when watching a movie.
  • If you put a movie on your downloads stop.
  • Achievements, purely out of noseyness to see how far people I know have got through games.
  • Xbox Live Marketplace. I don't like how Playstation store is set up, XBL marketplace is much better suited for joypads. PS Store is just a web page.
  • Access to PSN through the web like we can access XBL on xbox.com. I can sit at my pc and check messages, see add/remove friends, see what people are doing in real time as if I was on my 360, compare achievements against another player. I can't access Marktplace but all the basics are there for me on the web.
  • Cross platform gaming. Only Shadow Run offers this so far but I like the idea so I want to see more of it. Shame COD4 couldn't do it.

Most of that lot could be done in a few patches so I wish they would get their finger out. Although in principle I think charging for gaming online is wrong-I wouldn't mind paying a small sub for PSN if it was made better. I pay £34 a year for XBL and it's streets ahead.

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PSN is garbage right now - infact it doesn't have some of the basic functionality that the old version of Live had when it launched back in 2002.

Things I miss most on PSN ?

  • Game invites
  • Messaging
  • Seeing what my mates are doing like what game they are on, what stage in that game, are they watching a movie or just on the media bar? Surpising how something so simple makes such a difference. It's also good for seeing what games are any good as when everyone is playing the same game it could be worth a look.
  • Voice chat whilst in different games
  • Access to my friend list when watching a movie.
  • 1.If you put a movie on your downloads stop.
  • 2.Achievements, purely out of noseyness to see how far people I know have got through games.
  • 3.Xbox Live Marketplace. I don't like how Playstation store is set up, XBL marketplace is much better suited for joypads. PS Store is just a web page.
  • Access to PSN through the web like we can access XBL on xbox.com. I can sit at my pc and check messages, see add/remove friends, see what people are doing in real time as if I was on my 360, compare achievements against another player. I can't access Marktplace but all the basics are there for me on the web.
  • Cross platform gaming. Only Shadow Run offers this so far but I like the idea so I want to see more of it. Shame COD4 couldn't do it.

RocKtheCasbaH

1. I would like my downloads going on during movies.

2. Home will have trophies, they are like acheivements

3. You dont like it, but it still works

4. I dont like cross platform gaming, it always feels like the people on the computers have the advantage, and people with a computer could get those games even if they have a PS3.

Also, Sony is new to all of this, and they cant copy Xbox exactly due to copyright issues.

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#39 Rikusaki
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Live has way more features, but I don't play that much online on my PS3 anyways. I play online on my PC. lol
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#40 Rafinator
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PSN is garbage.heretrix

really? do you have both systems that you can compare them jack@$$? i have a PS3 and 360 - PS3 has virtually no lag online, has features that almost match 360, and is free. what 360 has that i like better: i can talk to people that are not in the same game as me, cross game invites, and acheivements. what PS3 has that I like better: virtually no lag, very user-friendly XMB interface, tons of customizibility (if that's a word lol)for FREE, plus Home, which is 100% FREE. and don't even try to say "it's gonna suck cuz it's free" cuz i played a private beta and it ROX. don't even try to suck up to Money$oft you 360 fanboy. p.s. i'm not a fanboy cuz i got BOTH systems.

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#41 killzowned24
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PSN is FREE:) it allows MULTIPLE tags for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for 360 each tag is $$$$ if you want to play online. This feature is great for PS3, as it allows you to practice online with one tag, then use a different tag to come back latter and easy rank up faster with more points.

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#42 Rafinator
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PSN is garbage right now - infact it doesn't have some of the basic functionality that the old version of Live had when it launched back in 2002.

Things I miss most on PSN ?

  • Game invites
  • Messaging
  • Seeing what my mates are doing like what game they are on, what stage in that game, are they watching a movie or just on the media bar? Surpising how something so simple makes such a difference. It's also good for seeing what games are any good as when everyone is playing the same game it could be worth a look.
  • Voice chat whilst in different games
  • Access to my friend list when watching a movie.
  • If you put a movie on your downloads stop.
  • Achievements, purely out of noseyness to see how far people I know have got through games.
  • Xbox Live Marketplace. I don't like how Playstation store is set up, XBL marketplace is much better suited for joypads. PS Store is just a web page.
  • Access to PSN through the web like we can access XBL on xbox.com. I can sit at my pc and check messages, see add/remove friends, see what people are doing in real time as if I was on my 360, compare achievements against another player. I can't access Marktplace but all the basics are there for me on the web.
  • Cross platform gaming. Only Shadow Run offers this so far but I like the idea so I want to see more of it. Shame COD4 couldn't do it.

RocKtheCasbaH

lol ps3 can do most of what you listed. you're making people think psn isn't good cuz of the lies you post.

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#43 LEGEND_C4A
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1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

-Reggaeton-

Dedicated servers? Resistance and Warhawk? two games?

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#44 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]PSN is garbage.Rafinator

really? do you have both systems that you can compare them jack@$$?

Yes I do.....I couldn't play the excellent Uncharted otherwise...:| I have a 40 gig PS3....

i have a PS3 and 360 - PS3 has virtually no lag online, has features that almost match 360, and is free. what 360 has that i like better: i can talk to people that are not in the same game as me, cross game invites, and acheivements. what PS3 has that I like better: virtually no lag, very user-friendly XMB interface, tons of customizibility (if that's a word lol)for FREE, plus Home, which is 100% FREE. And don't even try to say "it's gonna suck cuz it's free" cuz i played a private beta and it ROX. don't even try to suck up to Money$oft you 360 fanboy. p.s. i'm not a fanboy cuz i got BOTH systems.

It's weird how you call me a fanboy, yet you are the one acting like one. I'm not interested in home at all. As of now PSN is garbage, will it change? Maybe, but it's my opinion, ease up dude.

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#46 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

LEGEND_C4A

Dedicated servers? Resistance and Warhawk? two games?

halo is 16 player, gears is 8 player.

Resistance is 40 player, Warhawk is 32.

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#47 musicalmac  Moderator
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Price shouldn't be part of the argument. The "free" price tag isn't really a feature that does much for the user. Except save him 5 dollars a month, when compared to XBL. Is that really something worth bragging about? I think PS3 owners should count their lucky stars that the console didn't ship with a headset.
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#48 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

1. Its Free

2. Dedicated servers.

You cant really argue with that.

killzowned24

Dedicated servers? Resistance and Warhawk? two games?

halo is 16 player, gears is 8 player.

Resistance is 40 player, Warhawk is 32.

I understand that...so whats your point? PDZ had 32 players.

More players doesn't make the game better, if thats your defense its not a good one.

Halo is insane enough with 16 players, 40 would bea mess. Gears I don't even care about cause I don't like the multiplayer regardless if it was 8 or 40 players. I do love the co-op

its nice to play with so many, I enjoyed playing battefield on the PC with 40+ players, but guess what? I enjoyed it more on the 360.

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#49 gotenks123321
Member since 2007 • 512 Posts
Well if PSN had a price, then combined the price is like 12$ i could pretty much get a world of warcraft subscrition with that, which is another game to play, so price can matter.
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#50 Blackbond
Member since 2005 • 24516 Posts

2 Reasons why PS3 Online/PSN is better then live

  1. Halo 3
  2. Virtua Fighter 5