2022 is a very important year for Xbox....

It really is... 2022 will answer the question that is will Xbox finally have a NEW IP that will set the Xbox world on fire and finally dethrone Halo has one of the major pillars of Xbox? Will Starfield or Redfall do that? 2022 is when we truly see the acquisitions in action. Halo(and Gears and Forza) has been carrying Xbox for almost three generations. Last gen, Xbox had no breakout new IPs(like Halo or Gears) that set the gaming industry on fire.

Will Starfield do that?

Wow, Xbox fans have been super insecure as of late. I wonder why 🤭

Horizon2 will clap it so much that all your dreams will fade in a month. Sell your Xbox before its too late, you will thank me later.

Well Redfall looks mediocre at best, Starfield could end up being a huge IP as long as Howard doesn't blow it. 2022 looks dry for MS.

Starfield can certainly be a very big new IP for Microsoft but honestly they now own a number of very large IP’s that they don’t really necessarily need a breakout new IP. I think the more important question is can they revitalize some of their other IP’s such as Perfect Dark and Fable.

How the **** is this insecure? And how am I an Xbox fan? This is just a question. Will Xbox finally have an IP that they will no longer need to depend on Halo?

Stop using AAVE the wrong way. It sounds cringe.

Good point.

Read 55 achievements appeared for Goldeneye, hope that gets released with a bit of modernisation.

@blessedbyhorus: he won't answer, doesnt have anything to back up his statement

Starfield has the largest potential for sure but, nothing will unseat Halo. Halo is Xbox, period.

Halo getting unseated. Heck Halo has slowly been losing mindshare since the late end of the 360 period.

Excellent.

Use "pwn" instead.

I think Everwild could be a very interesting one to keep an eye on as well.

You're going a bit too far. I can use "dumpstered" instead, tho.

Every year is important for Xbox. They've had their ups and downs

Huh?? What are you smoking?

Wow if Xbox fans are insecure, not sure how to describe cows this year then. Halo alone sprouted many salty threads.

Remember Starfield is being developed by the same studio that made FO76 aka a bizarre, boring, broken mess. Also, Redfall looks dumb as far as its reveal trailer concerns.

@st_monica: and horizon zero dawn forbidden west is being developed by the guys who made killzone shadow fall, whats you point

@st_monica: I’d wager that nearly every developer, if not actually every developer, has a dud or two in their portfolio. Constantly pointing that out to somehow discredit any of their future projects actually means very little. Also being under the Microsoft Game Studios umbrella should be a different experience and opportunity for them as well.

Kill Zone Shadow Fall had some flaws, but it demonstrated great visuals, gameplay and level design, and they have been further refined in HZD. It cannot be compared to pure garbage like FO76.

I understand your point, and it's often true. However, the games Bethesda Game Studios/Todd Howard has made so far are simply overrated and aren't really good at all in my opinion. I'm not sure if there are any merit to be under the umbrella of MS other than their games being distributed on Game Pass. Maybe 4 times more budget and inputs from Phil such as adding a co-op mode later?

I'm pretty confident about Starfield. The only significant **** up they did was 76, which was an obvious cash grab when they were kinda struggling. Starfield as a main title and a brand new IP gives me very little reasons for concern. I personaly hope it's a proper sci fi title and not a space opera, other then that I'm confident.

People should stop overhyping games you don’t know nothing about and i doubt Starfield will release this year they can’t even provide 10 seconds of gameplay, both PS5 and XsX should have a good year especially PS5 early in the year if all goes according to schedule and no delays happen, we will see right now i am happy they release anything because of covid

New year and already so much coping threads. Lems so insecure.

Tbh it wasn't made by their main team. But we'll see.

This one more important to me because its been a while since Xbox had a new major AAA IP.

@st_monica: Eh, now you’re falling back on your personal preferences when in actuality many of their other games have enjoyed both critical and commercial success.

Being under the Microsoft Game Studios umbrella also offers the potential for many benefits. Just recently Double Fine thanked Microsoft for giving the time necessary to make Psychonauts 2 a better game. 🤷‍♂️

We know so little about Starfield so I’m not sure.

But Gears 6, Fallout 5 and next Doom will be fantastic.

@Archangel3371:

Yeah, it's just my personal opinion, dude. I've played Todd Howard's games (TES/FO) and found them pretty mediocre, although I totally respect the opinions of those who feel differently.

Skyrim, for example, was highly acclaimed at the time of its release, but couldn't stand the test of time. In fact, critics and players had to revise their views on it when the remaster came out five years later.

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Either way, I think it's fair to be skeptical of Starfiled, as Todd's big mouth has already been exposed with FO76.

As a Cow, i can guarantee Starfield being extremely successful. Why? Because they're trying to launch a new series that will be with the big boys (elder scrolls and fallout). If they fail their first entry into the series, the series is dead, dead like Anthem. They will put as much effort into this as Bethesda is able to. This game will have a minimum of 92 on meta, and possibly as high as 95. Watch this award winning cow being right😊

@st_monica: shadow fall was a dumpster fire, pretty graphics dog shit everything else. It's that bad that it's been nearly a decade since it was released and we've had nothing else since

@thedork_knight: No, it's the exact opposite. Sony saw the capabilities of Guerrilla Games to create top-notch graphics and innovative gameplay, and decided to invest even more in them to produce HZD, a way bigger game than KZ.

@st_monica: Well sure you can be skeptical all you want and that’s fair enough but you initially tried to pass it off as, “Hey look! This developer made a dud so their next will probably be one too.” Then you put your personal bias against their other games. Whether a game “stands the test of time” isn’t all that important. If a game does very well for itself when it’s released and people love it during its time period is more important. Also there’s a reason why Skyrim continues to be ported and rereleased, enough people still very much enjoy it to make it worthwhile for the developer.

@st_monica: haha man you're deluded. Innovative gameplay? It's Ass creed with robo dinosaurs

This year will be great for both systems. For me personally on Xbox side I am looking forward to Starfield. Other then that whatever comes on the Gamepass where it saved me money instead of buying it on the PS5.

The add a opinion I don't believe 2022 is the year. I believe 2023 and 2024 will be a breakthrough years when all the major games Microsoft Invested into will show up besides Starfield of course.

Well, I've made salty comments on Starfield, but what's wrong with that? I have no obligation to hype it up like some clueless fanboys. I personally think that Todd Howard's portfolio is overvalued, but I have also seen such discussions here and there. Are they all biased as far as you're concerned? I mentioned the shift in rating for Skyrim to highlight the fact that it was overrated in the past. It's true that it was a huge commercial success and so many people played it, but it doesn't necessarily guarantee the quality of the game. Hope you don't believe Candy Crush is the greatest game ever made.

I'd say it's innovative enough that HZD has introduced its dynamic and strategic battles with various Robot Dinosaurs into the open world RPG genre.

There is no way we will see Starfield or Redfall this year. They both exist in the form of tech demos at the moment, i.e. nowhere near even alpha stage never mind beta.

Regardless of what happens with these two, the next Elder Scrolls will be the game that causes massive problems for Sony when it comes though sadly, that's even further away.

It's a huge year for both Sony and ms.

@st_monica: Just pointing out the fact that your initial comment was kind of pointless because most every developer has a dud or two in their portfolio of games, even the most revered of developers. Then pointed out the fact that you decided to fallback on personal biases on how you felt about their other games. Once again pointed out that “standing the test of time” isn’t all that important. Just because a port of game gets a lower review years after it initially came out doesn’t mean it was overrated before either. A whole host of factors can contribute to those lower reviews.

This thread isn’t about “salty” comments others may or may not have made nor is it about games like Candy Crush are the greatest game ever made or whatever. It’s about whether or not the games coming out for Microsoft in the near future are important for them ie. getting a large amount of people interested enough in them to buy them, their products, and/or subscribe to their services. 🤷‍♂️

Do not bank on Redfall being a market shifting phenomenon like Halo, Forza, or Gears for Xbox. Gears doesn’t even do that anymore itself. It’s one of those right time, right place things. I’m not saying it won’t be good but it’s not going to be the new thing.

Starfield does have the chance to be groundbreaking though. People are still playing Skyrim for goodness sake. It all comes down to Bethesda. Can they pull it off?

Reboot Gears into a gory first person shooter with hefty movement allowing to do things such as shoulder charging smaller enemies into walls, etc and it will be the next big thing from MS. I don't know why nobody is seeing the potential here.

And BotW2 will make everyone forget Horizon... again.

Bro you like like 2 games a year and still complain about them because you're miserable. Your tastes don't match anyone else's.

Hello Silly Goose☺It looks like i am always the one that makes you post on SW. Can you explain to me why this is the case?

Because you make a bitchy post in every single thread.

Well, I feel like this discussion will take us nowhere, so I'll just leave my final thoughts.

It's not pointless to take into account the recent FO76 blunder in predicting Starfield's quality. It shows that the studio clearly had some serious management, technical and marketing issues.

I have already acknowledged that my opinion of Todd's games is personal and I respect your opposition to it. That said, I believe it will become clear as time goes on that my perspective is not particularly biased.

I think it is reasonable to think that Skyrim, whose review scores had dropped that much in just five years, should have been overestimated to some extent in the first place. I also believe that the true value of video games can be seen through the test of time just like films and music.

Sure, this thread is about whether the new IPs such as Starfield and Redfall will be MS's "one of the major pillars." My answer is lol.

@st_monica: Cool. My final thoughts are as follows:

- pretty much every developer has a dud or two or even more in their portfolio of games. Simply pointing one out and thinking that their next game will be like that is kind of silly unless you have inside information on the internal workings of their studio and what not to back things up.

- your personal preferences and biases are irrelevant to how their games will perform. Like I said many of their previous games have done well and continue to do well both critically and commercially. There’s a reason why Skyrim has been ported to so many platforms.

- just because a game reviews lower then when it released previously doesn’t mean that it was overrated initially. It’s reviewed for its period of time when it released and a whole host of variables can contribute to lower review scores later on such port quality, another person reviewing it, etc.