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#1 serb1030
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Um hello? World of Warcraft has thousands of players in 1 world. Guild Wars has hundreds and hundreds. You can argue that these games aren't impressive visually but MAG won't exactly win any graphics awards. No, I don't have a crystal ball that shows me the graphics but I do have logic and common sense. 256 players on a console will never be great. So how have hermits been owned? If you wanna argue the PC has no FPS games with this many players you might remember this little game called Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising. It had 150 players in a single world in 2004. If PC did 150 players online 4 years ago imagine what it can do now. I bet if DICE wanted to, they could easily make Battlefield 3 256+ players online. But why would you? It becomes chaos. Anyway, THHBO? I don't think so. Please remember that an MMO game is not just an RPG. MAG, for example, is an MMOFPSorTPS (we don't know yet).

EDIT: Don't forget about Planetside and Tribes 2.

P.S. I'm not knocking MAG down, 256 players on a console is a great advancement, I'm just saying the PC has not been owned in any way.

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#2 Adonymous
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Umm..hello World of Warcraft MMORPG...$15 a month

MAG, Massive Action Game, 256 Players, No Monthly Charge, just a bunch of people running around shooting each other.

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#3 Delsage
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I agree with you. MAG is all awesome and stuff, but saying that a PC can't do 256 players on one server is just asinine.
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#4 Wasdie  Moderator
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Its funny because I play WWII Online a game which regularly has 1000+ people logged into its single persistant game world...

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#5 insanejedi
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Joint ops was 106 players short of what MAG is doing. Still super impressive when i played it though. and the 256=chaos. Yea man.... cant wait 8)
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#6 elbow2k
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"It is cited as featuring 256-player battles divided into 8-player squads with individual character growth"

PC gamer here, but I don't think I've ever played an FPS on a server with 64+ players, even then, this is incredably ambitious undertaking, specially when most people were skeptical about Resistance 2 doing 60 players online.

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#7 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

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#8 serb1030
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Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

serb1030

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.
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#10 serb1030
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[QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

What about Joint Ops 4 years ago then? Nobody said LOLOLOL PS2 GOT PAWNXORED!!!

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#11 Jade_Monkey
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MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.
Gh0st_Of_0nyx

They can be compared to show any idiot who says PC can't do 256 people that they need to shut up.

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#12 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

serb1030

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

What about Joint Ops 4 years ago then? Nobody said LOLOLOL PS2 GOT PAWNXORED!!!

There were diffrent expectation for each platforms online capability, but today not even a PC has ever heard of a 256+ player shooter that was not an MMO or broken ass WW2 Online.

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#13 reddemon502
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Its funny because I play WWII Online a game which regularly has 1000+ people logged into its single persistant game world...

Wasdie

Yeah but I could drop a deuce that looks better than that game

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#14 Jade_Monkey
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There were diffrent expectation for each platforms online capability, but today not even a PC has ever heard of a 256+ player shooter that was not an MMO or broken ass WW2 Online.

insanejedi

Expctations aught to be that this game lags worse than a Wii trying to play Crysis maxed out. I will stick with my 64-150 player games that are not laggy beyond belief.

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#15 serb1030
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You guys don't realize that an MMO game is not just an RPG. Anything in the 100s and above is an MMO. MAG is an MMOFPS (or maybe tps?)
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#16 Antikyth3ra
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Planetside?

Tribes 2 had servers that could handle hundreds of players.

PC has done plenty of action oriented games with 256 players. Oh and were ignoring the fact that this game is gonna blow.

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#17 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

MAG is an MMO...its an MMOFPS, just like Planetside, Huxely, and WW2 online...and like all of them...it will have online fees.

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#18 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

cobrax75

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

MAG is an MMO...its an MMOFPS, just like Planetside, Huxely, and WW2 online...and like all of them...it will have online fees.

link?

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#19 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

serb1030

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

What about Joint Ops 4 years ago then? Nobody said LOLOLOL PS2 GOT PAWNXORED!!!

Joint ops did 150 and the new BF3 is I think doing 200 so again it not anywwere near the 256 that sony wants to deliver. And the processing limitations of the ps2
[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.
Jade_Monkey

They can be compared to show any idiot who says PC can't do 256 people that they need to shut up.

Ummm no they cant your comparing a PC MMO (designed for thousands of players to be longed on at once) to a First or thrid person shooter on a console. No one ever said that 256 couldnt ever be done on a PC im just poiting out there there are no games in that genre on PC that goes up to that number.
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#20 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

There were diffrent expectation for each platforms online capability, but today not even a PC has ever heard of a 256+ player shooter that was not an MMO or broken ass WW2 Online.

Jade_Monkey

Expctations aught to be that this game lags worse than a Wii trying to play Crysis maxed out. I will stick with my 64-150 player games that are not laggy beyond belief.

Sony has dedicated servers for warhawk and since this is first party they will defeniatly do the same thing.

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#21 trix5817
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[QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

insanejedi

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

What about Joint Ops 4 years ago then? Nobody said LOLOLOL PS2 GOT PAWNXORED!!!

There were diffrent expectation for each platforms online capability, but today not even a PC has ever heard of a 256+ player shooter that was not an MMO or broken ass WW2 Online.

Because we know oooohhh so much about MAG except that it has 256 player battles, right? Who the hell knows how this is going to work if at all. They didn't even show any gameplay. I wouldn't expect this game until 2010 at the latest.

Joint Ops tried to make huge battles with 150 player servers and use that as a selling point, but the game sucked. It was glitchy and laggy and had crappy gameplay. Now announce BF3 please!

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#22 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="serb1030"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

Adonymous

Games don't have to be an RPG to be an MMO...

MAG is an MMOFPS just like Gunz is an action MMOTPS.

MMORPG's like WoW cant be compared to wha mag is simply because there MMO's there TOTALLY different genre's. MAG looks to be either a TPS or a FPS not some MMO were you level up and gain EXP.

MAG is an MMO...its an MMOFPS, just like Planetside, Huxely, and WW2 online...and like all of them...it will have online fees.

link?

do you actually believe that this isnt an MMO? they bassiclly spelled it out for you...the persistant world...the persistant characters...the large scale battles.....

hmm...sound familiar....well it should...its a ****c MMOFPS.

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#23 axx1000
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Why is everyone forgetting runescape, runescape can make 2000 people on a world, and ive seen that on multipule worlds, (about 5 once). If your going to complane about that kind of stuff look online too.
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#24 mismajor99
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Umm..hello World of Warcraft MMORPG...$15 a month

MAG, Massive Action Game, 256 Players, No Monthly Charge, just a bunch of people running around shooting each other.

Adonymous

we'll see about that no monthly charge. If the game has dedicated servers, and Sony doesn't sport the bill, there will most likely be a small fee. WoW's updates and patches add tons of content, so you're gettting much more then just server space when you play, there's reason for paying.

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#25 mismajor99
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Yeah, MAG is basically Huxley for the PS3, I like what I see so far, but we'll see. I'm not too impressed with any SOCOM game though.
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#26 Couth_
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I don't think anyone said PC couldn't handle mag. With that said, MMO's are completely different than regular online games in the amount of players they handle.

Lastly, I don't think mag is an MMO. Remember Sony thinks of MMO's as a selling point for the PS3, if mag was an MMO they would have mentioned it, and they didn't. It's not an MMO...

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#27 cobrax75
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I don't think anyone said PC couldn't handle mag. With that said, MMO's are completely different than MMO's in the amount of players they handle.

Lastly, I don't think mag is an MMO. Remember Sony thinks of MMO's as a selling point for the PS3, if mag was an MMO they would have mentioned it, and they didn't. It's not an MMO...

Couth_

that logic simply doesnt compute at all....

if Sony thinks MMO's are a selling point for the PS3, than Wouldnt that just be more evidence that this will be an MMO.

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#28 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]

I don't think anyone said PC couldn't handle mag. With that said, MMO's are completely different than MMO's in the amount of players they handle.

Lastly, I don't think mag is an MMO. Remember Sony thinks of MMO's as a selling point for the PS3, if mag was an MMO they would have mentioned it, and they didn't. It's not an MMO...

cobrax75

that logic simply doesnt compute at all....

if Sony thinks MMO's are a selling point for the PS3, than Wouldnt that just be more evidence that this will be an MMO.

Don't you think if it was an MMO they would have mentioned it? They didn't say it once, yet they showed of DC online which IS an MMO... But with Mag it never came out of their mouths..
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#29 PandaBear86
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Its kinda funny seeing all these hermits bring in MMO's into the equation

MAG isnt an MMO so dont compare the two itsa ACTION game not some RPG.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Guild Wars has no monthly fee at all. Yet you can still play with loads of people in one city at the same time.

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#31 cobrax75
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there just owned because they always bagged the numbers of players in online games in consoles, and said huge matches couldnt be done, and now we have a 256 player match, so now pc fanboys can shut up about it thats all

bigLLL

its an MMO...they function under an entirely different set of rules.

remember Huxely?

Lemmings were claiming ownage over its 300 player multiplayer until it turned out that as an MMO there would be subscritption fees, the same thing is going on here.

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#32 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Couth_"]

I don't think anyone said PC couldn't handle mag. With that said, MMO's are completely different than MMO's in the amount of players they handle.

Lastly, I don't think mag is an MMO. Remember Sony thinks of MMO's as a selling point for the PS3, if mag was an MMO they would have mentioned it, and they didn't. It's not an MMO...

Couth_

that logic simply doesnt compute at all....

if Sony thinks MMO's are a selling point for the PS3, than Wouldnt that just be more evidence that this will be an MMO.

Don't you think if it was an MMO they would have mentioned it? They didn't say it once, yet they showed of DC online which IS an MMO... But with Mag it never came out of their mouths..

that's just semantics. MAG is definitely an MMO. Since it's a shooter, they probably didn't want to label it that way, it's all marketing speak up there, plus, fees are associated with the word "MMO", even though there are plenty that don't, people's perceptions differ. It's all word play, but when it comes down to it, if you have 256 people on a server playing a game with stat tracking, that's an MMO, period.

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#33 unknowndrk
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whoa weird...people used planetside as a defense against MAG and Planetside is by sony I think hahaha that's random irony. However, I dont think I saw anyone saying anything about MAG's 256 players owning PC. Anyways I hope the game is good. no point in really talking about MAG though it won't be out for a while.
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#34 Chutebox
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Has there been any footage of MAG that isn't CGI?
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#35 Couth_
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that's just semantics. MAG is definitely an MMO. Since it's a shooter, they probably didn't want to label it that way, it's all marketing speak up there, plus, fees are associated with the word "MMO", even though there are plenty that don't, people's perceptions differ. It's all word play, but when it comes down to it, if you have 256 people on a server playing a game with stat tracking, that's an MMO, period.

mismajor99
It might be true, It is being perceived as an MMO by sites. I just find it odd Sony didn't mention it, because they do like to tout their MMO's, this was a perfect opportunity to, and they didn't.
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#36 mismajor99
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NO!! The American league just won it :(

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#37 br0kenrabbit
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No one ever said that 256 couldnt ever be done on a PC im just poiting out there there are no games in that genre on PC that goes up to that number.
Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Yes there is, it's called PlanetSide, it's an MMOFPS several years old on the PC that can have 999 players divided into three teams in the same fight.