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#1 meronge
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according to microsoft, they have shipped 30.2 million total 360 with a software attchement rate at 8.3 games per console.

fiscal 3rd quarter, microsoft's profit was almost 3billion dollars

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Microsoft-3Q-profit-revenue-apf-15017106.html?sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

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#2 SMR-Venom
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Impressive. Decent hardware sales with a terrific attach rate.
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#3 Lem-Risen
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Praise be to MS. With any luck Sony will post greater troubles.
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#4 DonMarkito
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Just wondering, what was the sony's profit?
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#5 _SWAG_
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thats gotta be the highest attach rate for any consoles out now
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#6 kidonre
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lol atleast the 360 owners buy games unlike the majority of wii owners who buy it to play wii sports and never play it again

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#7 foxhound_fox
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Wow... I'm at 14 games, normally I don't go above average attach rate, unless its the PS2.

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#8 Englandfc1966
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Praise be to MS. With any luck Sony will post greater troubles. Lem-Risen
My fingers have commenced the crossing action.
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#9 obamanian
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Let's see, what i have bought

Mass Effect - Fallout 3 - Fable 2 - BFME2 - Kameo - PD0 - Blue Dragon - Last Remnant - Ninja Gaiden 2 - Gears 1 - Enchanted Arms - Oblivion - Bioshock - Assassins Creed - Viva Pinata1 -2, Banjo 3 - Lost Odyssey - Infinite Undisocvery and some more

That is about 20 games, so 8.3 is low for me, plus i plan to grab another 28+ in 2009 - early 2010

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ive only bought mass effect, BK:N&B, and LostOdyssey
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#11 Lem-Risen
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hmm.....im above the attach rate. I have Halo 3, Halo Wars, Gears, Gears 2, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, COD4, RE5, Dead Space, DBZ: Burst Limit. My sister who isnt even a full blown gamer has Viva Pinata, Naruto: RON, Beautiful Katamari, DDR Universe, Banjo: N&B, Devil May Cry 4
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#12 bayareahusla
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do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?
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#13 Silverbond
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lol atleast the 360 owners buy games unlike the majority of wii owners who buy it to play wii sports and never play it again

kidonre

Obviously you have forgotten Mario Kart, Wii Fit, and Wii Play.

One more thing, people don't stop playing their Wiis.

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hmm.....im above the attach rate. I have Halo 3, Halo Wars, Gears, Gears 2, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, COD4, RE5, Dead Space, DBZ: Burst Limit. My sister who isnt even a full blown gamer has Viva Pinata, Naruto: RON, Beautiful Katamari, DDR Universe, Banjo: N&B, Devil May Cry 4Lem-Risen

viva pinata is so addicting

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#15 bayareahusla
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do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?
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do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?bayareahusla
Seriously, What do you think?? I swear there always has to be one to say this.
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[QUOTE="Lem-Risen"]hmm.....im above the attach rate. I have Halo 3, Halo Wars, Gears, Gears 2, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, COD4, RE5, Dead Space, DBZ: Burst Limit. My sister who isnt even a full blown gamer has Viva Pinata, Naruto: RON, Beautiful Katamari, DDR Universe, Banjo: N&B, Devil May Cry 4meronge

viva pinata is so addicting

my little sister likes it, i could never get into it.
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Praise be to MS. With any luck Sony will post greater troubles. Lem-Risen
Well if the trend stays the same for Sony they probably will post around the $3 billion also but just they will have a negative instead of a positive infront of it.
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I have two.................

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[QUOTE="Lem-Risen"]Praise be to MS. With any luck Sony will post greater troubles. rybe1025
Well if the trend stays the same for Sony they probably will post around the $3 billion also but just they will have a negative instead of a positive infront of it.

fingers crossed. yes SW, im crossing my fingers that a company has financial trouble.
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do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?bayareahusla

Can you think of ANY logical reason they would?

Why would they count a piece of hardware as sold TWICE?

Sold is "sold to a retailer" for anybody. There is no reason to repair a unit and called it sold again.

And before anyone says it, there is no reason for MS to inflate the numbers. For one, it is against the law. Secondly, doing so would only lower their attach rate, then their stockholders would be asking why software sales are down.

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lol atleast the 360 owners buy games unlike the majority of wii owners who buy it to play wii sports and never play it again

kidonre
IIRC, Wii's attach rate is 6.1, so that isn't bad either.
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#23 -Melix-
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I wonder what sonys attach rate is, since they claimed it was higher than ms..

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[QUOTE="bayareahusla"]do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?TBoogy

Can you think of ANY logical reason they would?

Why would they count a piece of hardware as sold TWICE?

Sold is "sold to a retailer" for anybody. There is no reason to repair a unit and called it sold again.

And before anyone says it, there is no reason for MS to inflate the numbers. For one, it is against the law. Secondly, doing so would only lower their attach rate, then their stockholders would be asking why software sales are down.

i think its easier for them to believe that, than to accept that their console of choice isnt selling as well :P
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#25 cainetao11
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I guess I'm above the attach rate also. I have in house now:Halo 3, Halo Wars, Gears 1,2, Oblivion, Falllout 3, Splinter Cell DA, GTA 4, NG 2, L4D, Rockband 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, NHL 09, Orange Box. I wonder what the attach rate for PS3 is? I have 5 titles for it. But I trade in more often than others I guess.
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#26 bayareahusla
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my console of choice has sold over 50mil :)
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#27 AlphaGamer469
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my console of choice has sold over 50mil :)bayareahusla
and an attach rate of what? 2 or 3???
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#28 bayareahusla
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why do i care what other games people buy my console is selling like hotcakes made with crack
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[QUOTE="kidonre"]

lol atleast the 360 owners buy games unlike the majority of wii owners who buy it to play wii sports and never play it again

SMR-Venom

IIRC, Wii's attach rate is 6.1, so that isn't bad either.

it is when your'e a 3rd party software developer for wii...

48 million wii * 6.1 = 293 softwares

but out of 293 million softwares, if you subtract the biggest 1st party games, fit (18 mil) play (22mil) and sport (44 mil) 5 mario games ( 45 mil) you're left with 209 mil softwares

so 209/48 = 4.3 3rd party games per wii

which is extremely low

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my console of choice has sold over 50mil :)bayareahusla
Not according to your profile :P No need to shift sides now, you know sony DEMANDS loyalty :lol:

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[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="kidonre"]

lol atleast the 360 owners buy games unlike the majority of wii owners who buy it to play wii sports and never play it again

meronge

IIRC, Wii's attach rate is 6.1, so that isn't bad either.

it is when your'e a 3rd party software developer for wii...

48 million wii * 6.1 = 293 softwares

but out of 293 million softwares, if you subtract the biggest 1st party games, fit (18 mil) play (22mil) and sport (44 mil) 5 mario games ( 45 mil) you're left with 209 mil softwares

so 209/48 = 4.3 3rd party games per wii

which is extremely low

Why are you excluding first party titles? That doesn't make sense...
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[QUOTE="bayareahusla"]my console of choice has sold over 50mil :)AlphaGamer469
and an attach rate of what? 2 or 3???

6.1

I wonder what sonys attach rate is, since they claimed it was higher than ms..

-Melix-
6.4
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#33 bingbaocao
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my 360 came with 4 games, which means i bought 12 games
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#34 DerekLoffin
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I wonder what sonys attach rate is, since they claimed it was higher than ms..

-Melix-
They claimed it was higher for 'blockbusters', which is a fancy way of saying 'we picked the games that make us look good'.
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#35 meronge
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[QUOTE="meronge"]

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] IIRC, Wii's attach rate is 6.1, so that isn't bad either.SMR-Venom

it is when your'e a 3rd party software developer for wii...

48 million wii * 6.1 = 293 softwares

but out of 293 million softwares, if you subtract the biggest 1st party games, fit (18 mil) play (22mil) and sport (44 mil) 5 mario games ( 45 mil) you're left with 209 mil softwares

so 209/48 = 4.3 3rd party games per wii

which is extremely low

Why are you excluding first party titles? That doesn't make sense...

because a console company needs 3rd developer as much as the 3rd party developer needs the console company

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[QUOTE="meronge"]

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] IIRC, Wii's attach rate is 6.1, so that isn't bad either.SMR-Venom

it is when your'e a 3rd party software developer for wii...

48 million wii * 6.1 = 293 softwares

but out of 293 million softwares, if you subtract the biggest 1st party games, fit (18 mil) play (22mil) and sport (44 mil) 5 mario games ( 45 mil) you're left with 209 mil softwares

so 209/48 = 4.3 3rd party games per wii

which is extremely low

Why are you excluding first party titles? That doesn't make sense...

Normally, i would join in on the wii-bashing lol, but you are right. 4.3 would mean that there are 2+ first party games per console sold. I really dont see how thats bad. Whats bad, though, is the "wii" 3rd party games are the ones selling, not the "real" games :P Sorry SMR-Venom, i just had to :lol:
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Lem-Risen"]Praise be to MS. With any luck Sony will post greater troubles. Panther501
Well if the trend stays the same for Sony they probably will post around the $3 billion also but just they will have a negative instead of a positive infront of it.

hypocrite

360 fanboys can never be hypocrits.
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[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="meronge"]

it is when your'e a 3rd party software developer for wii...

48 million wii * 6.1 = 293 softwares

but out of 293 million softwares, if you subtract the biggest 1st party games, fit (18 mil) play (22mil) and sport (44 mil) 5 mario games ( 45 mil) you're left with 209 mil softwares

so 209/48 = 4.3 3rd party games per wii

which is extremely low

navyguy21

Why are you excluding first party titles? That doesn't make sense...

Normally, i would join in on the wii-bashing lol, but you are right. 4.3 would mean that there are 2+ first party games per console sold. I really dont see how thats bad. Whats bad, though, is the "wii" 3rd party games are the ones selling, not the "real" games :P Sorry SMR-Venom, i just had to :lol:

Well, I agree to an extent. However it isn't as bad as it seems. 5 shovelware games have sold over a million. To some that is a lot, to some it is not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

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according to microsoft, they have shipped 30.2 million total 360 with a software attchement rate at 8.3 games per console.

fiscal 3rd quarter, microsoft's profit was almost 3billion dollars

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Microsoft-3Q-profit-revenue-apf-15017106.html?sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

meronge
i'm sorry, but where in the link does it say that it sold 30.2 million dollars ? where does it state it's atach rate?
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Why are you excluding first party titles? That doesn't make sense...SMR-Venom

Normally, i would join in on the wii-bashing lol, but you are right. 4.3 would mean that there are 2+ first party games per console sold. I really dont see how thats bad. Whats bad, though, is the "wii" 3rd party games are the ones selling, not the "real" games :P Sorry SMR-Venom, i just had to :lol:

Well, I agree to an extent. However it isn't as bad as it seems. 5 shovelware games have sold over a million. To some that is a lot, to some it is not.

Thats what im talkin about though, for some reason, people are buying shovelware games, and not buying boom blox, madworld, and a host of other real 3rd party games. I really dont know why EA is investing in Dead Space for Wii, because no one is going to buy it :(

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Great attach rate for a console where a lot of ppl play pirate games :o

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Pretty good.

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="bayareahusla"]do they count the sent back RROD 360s as sold too?navyguy21

Can you think of ANY logical reason they would?

Why would they count a piece of hardware as sold TWICE?

Sold is "sold to a retailer" for anybody. There is no reason to repair a unit and called it sold again.

And before anyone says it, there is no reason for MS to inflate the numbers. For one, it is against the law. Secondly, doing so would only lower their attach rate, then their stockholders would be asking why software sales are down.

i think its easier for them to believe that, than to accept that their console of choice isnt selling as well :P

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3473

the source is from microsoft written invgchartz news

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]

Can you think of ANY logical reason they would?

Why would they count a piece of hardware as sold TWICE?

Sold is "sold to a retailer" for anybody. There is no reason to repair a unit and called it sold again.

And before anyone says it, there is no reason for MS to inflate the numbers. For one, it is against the law. Secondly, doing so would only lower their attach rate, then their stockholders would be asking why software sales are down.

meronge

i think its easier for them to believe that, than to accept that their console of choice isnt selling as well :P

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3473

the source is from microsoft written invgchartz news

is that for me?? because i was talkin about the PS3 lol.
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[QUOTE="meronge"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] i think its easier for them to believe that, than to accept that their console of choice isnt selling as well :Pnavyguy21

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3473

the source is from microsoft written invgchartz news

is that for me?? because i was talkin about the PS3 lol.

lol wrong quote, someone was asking where i got 30.2 mil with attachments

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="meronge"]

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3473

the source is from microsoft written invgchartz news

meronge

is that for me?? because i was talkin about the PS3 lol.

lol wrong quote, someone was asking where i got 30.2 mil with attachments

ya that was me, i already saw the link
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#48 xxmatt125xx
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That is a big attach rate, for me 360 is the console i have bought the most games for its about 40 or something now.
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#49 agentfred
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That's a pretty good attach rate I suppose.

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#50 bingbaocao
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do we know what was the PS2's atach rate?