360 and PS3 CPU Equal in Power?

There is an interview with Dave Shippy (helped develop both the 360's and PS3's CPU) said this:

Game Informer: Microsoft used your processor in a more traditional way than the Cell. Looking at how the processor was used in both systems, which one was the more effective or powerful?

Dave Shippy: I think they're fairly equal. The interesting thing is that the PowerPC that's common to both is used in completely different ways. If you look at the CPU chip for the 360 and PS3, and the programming models and architecture, they came up with completely different solutions. And yet they use this same common core.

Interesting to hear when the general idea is that PS3 had a better CPU and the 360 had a better GPU.

There is an interview with Dave Shippy (helped develop both the 360's and PS3's CPU) said this:

Game Informer: Microsoft used your processor in a more traditional way than the Cell. Looking at how the processor was used in both systems, which one was the more effective or powerful?

Dave Shippy: I think they're fairly equal. The interesting thing is that the PowerPC that's common to both is used in completely different ways. If you look at the CPU chip for the 360 and PS3, and the programming models and architecture, they came up with completely different solutions. And yet they use this same common core.

Interesting to hear when the general idea is that PS3 had a better CPU and the 360 had a better GPU.

KiddSushi

No not really, cos the Cell thrashes the xenon around like a baby in computing.

[QUOTE="KiddSushi"]

There is an interview with Dave Shippy (helped develop both the 360's and PS3's CPU) said this:

Game Informer: Microsoft used your processor in a more traditional way than the Cell. Looking at how the processor was used in both systems, which one was the more effective or powerful?

Dave Shippy: I think they're fairly equal. The interesting thing is that the PowerPC that's common to both is used in completely different ways. If you look at the CPU chip for the 360 and PS3, and the programming models and architecture, they came up with completely different solutions. And yet they use this same common core.

Interesting to hear when the general idea is that PS3 had a better CPU and the 360 had a better GPU.

PSGamerforlife

No not really, cos the Cell thrashes the xenon around like a baby in computing.

They are so different and are designed for different things so its hard to compare them directly.

I dont know how accurate these graphs are since i just found them on google.

It really depends on what kind of code you feed the cpu and how its optimized but in the end i believe if you do things right then you can get more out of the Cell.

[QUOTE="KiddSushi"]

There is an interview with Dave Shippy (helped develop both the 360's and PS3's CPU) said this:

Game Informer: Microsoft used your processor in a more traditional way than the Cell. Looking at how the processor was used in both systems, which one was the more effective or powerful?

Dave Shippy: I think they're fairly equal. The interesting thing is that the PowerPC that's common to both is used in completely different ways. If you look at the CPU chip for the 360 and PS3, and the programming models and architecture, they came up with completely different solutions. And yet they use this same common core.

Interesting to hear when the general idea is that PS3 had a better CPU and the 360 had a better GPU.

PSGamerforlife

No not really, cos the Cell thrashes the xenon around like a baby in computing.

They are so different and are designed for different things so its hard to compare them directly.

I dont know how accurate these graphs are since i just found them on google.

It really depends on what kind of code you feed the cpu and how its optimized but in the end i believe if you do things right then you can get more out of the Cell.

-Reggaeton-

I think those are the Microsoft Major Nelseon IGN joke graph comparison's.

In any event, I am getting sick of the pixel counting this generation, it nuts.

I thought Dead Space was fun, but then I found out it wasn't because it has better Resolution on another PLATFORM, the PSBOX! AH!

I always thought

CPU: PS3 > 360
GPU: 360 > PS3

The only way to tell the difference in game quality is up to the Devs. You'll have Devs like Epic, Naughty Dog, and so fourth tap into a good chunk of their respective systems power while Multiplats just, multiplat it.

When it comes to game development, a CPU's "power" is far less important than a CPU's efficiency. Especially when you're dealing with two 3.2GHz CPUs.

The Major Nelson graphs were a bit misleading, but they did have some truth to them (which anyone with game dev knowledge wouldknow). The Cell is awesome at crunching numbers, while the Xenon is more suited for general purpose PC use.

Well I'm more powerful than a 360 and PS3 combined - pass me a hammer and your consoles and I'll prove it.

Does it honestly matter? It's the end result of the graphical quality/frame rate that matters... who cares who used the best chip to get there if they both look pretty much the same?

Well I'm more powerful than a 360 and PS3 combined - pass me a hammer and your consoles and I'll prove it.

Does it honestly matter? It's the end result of the graphical quality/frame rate that matters... who cares who used the best chip to get there if they both look pretty much the same?

tidyspidey

Wanna bet???

My 360 with its power-brick and RROD would melt your hammer! And my PS3, well if you cracked it open you would instantly die because no mortal man can look at teh cell cus its like looking at god!

You've seen the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark? well its like that!!

[QUOTE="KiddSushi"]

There is an interview with Dave Shippy (helped develop both the 360's and PS3's CPU) said this:

Game Informer: Microsoft used your processor in a more traditional way than the Cell. Looking at how the processor was used in both systems, which one was the more effective or powerful?

Dave Shippy: I think they're fairly equal. The interesting thing is that the PowerPC that's common to both is used in completely different ways. If you look at the CPU chip for the 360 and PS3, and the programming models and architecture, they came up with completely different solutions. And yet they use this same common core.

Interesting to hear when the general idea is that PS3 had a better CPU and the 360 had a better GPU.

PSGamerforlife

No not really, cos the Cell thrashes the xenon around like a baby in computing.

The CPU strength doesn't matter too much for Gaming. M$ and $ony should have invested in ground breaking GPU's instead.BBQSauceMan

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

well john carmack, a rocket scientist and founder of ID, said the 360 is by far superior to the PS3. fortehlose

He said it was "from a developers perspective". IE., the 360 is easier to develop for.

When it comes to game development, a CPU's "power" is far less important than a CPU's efficiency. Especially when you're dealing with two 3.2GHz CPUs.

The Major Nelson graphs were a bit misleading, but they did have some truth to them (which anyone with game dev knowledge wouldknow). The Cell is awesome at crunching numbers, while the Xenon is more suited for general purpose PC use.

LosDaddie

[QUOTE="BBQSauceMan"]The CPU strength doesn't matter too much for Gaming. M$ and $ony should have invested in ground breaking GPU's instead.Nagidar

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="BBQSauceMan"]The CPU strength doesn't matter too much for Gaming. M$ and $ony should have invested in ground breaking GPU's instead.imprezawrx500

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

The next time around, both companies need to work with a great cpu, and a great gpu, rather than have a more outdated re-worked gpu for consoles... and for gods sake put some more ram in there, of course it's not as easy as just sticking in an extra stick, but for god's sake, more ram is needed

well john carmack, a rocket scientist and founder of ID, said the 360 is by far superior to the PS3. fortehlose

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="BBQSauceMan"]The CPU strength doesn't matter too much for Gaming. M$ and $ony should have invested in ground breaking GPU's instead.imprezawrx500

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

You're getting "power" confused with "performance", even though the 7800 GTX had more raw power, it is out performed by the Xenos because of its architecture.

Let me put it into perspective for you, the Xenos outperforms the X1800XT, which outperforms the 7800GTX, BOTH the X1800 and 7800 have more "raw power" than the Xenos, but the Xenos has USA, which means it runs at a higher (MUCH higher) efficiency, hence why it out "performed" the other 2 cards.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="BBQSauceMan"]The CPU strength doesn't matter too much for Gaming. M$ and $ony should have invested in ground breaking GPU's instead.imprezawrx500

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Makari"]Okay, here's a hermit's perspective: The 360 uses a PPC-based CPU. The PS3 used a PPC-based CPU backed up by 7 SPU's. He's just talking about the CPU. Tadaa everything makes sense now doesn't it Makari

Imagine, a desktop Geforce GT-3xx/4xx with an array of ARM + CUDA co-processors for cGPU.

[QUOTE="tidyspidey"]

Well I'm more powerful than a 360 and PS3 combined - pass me a hammer and your consoles and I'll prove it.

Does it honestly matter? It's the end result of the graphical quality/frame rate that matters... who cares who used the best chip to get there if they both look pretty much the same?

DAZZER7

Wanna bet???

My 360 with its power-brick and RROD would melt your hammer! And my PS3, well if you cracked it open you would instantly die because no mortal man can look at teh cell cus its like looking at god!

You've seen the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark? well its like that!!

When the 360 was released, the (360 CPU) Xenos was ground breaking.

Nagidar

Corrrection, don't you mean "Console Breaking?', because you'd be right. :)

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

When the 360 was released, the (360 CPU) Xenos was ground breaking.

SolidTy

Corrrection, don't you mean "Console Breaking?', because you'd be right. :)

B-b-b-b-b-b-ut the power of the cell!Toriko42

My favorite power of the Cell?

RELIABILITY! :)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Corrrection, don't you mean "Console Breaking?', because you'd be right. :)

Tekkenloving

I just thought I would help a brother out, he misspelled Console (ground), I guess.

I'm glad I could just help him out.:)

B-b-b-b-b-b-ut the power of the cell!Toriko42

My favorite power of the Cell?

ANTI -RROD POWERS, and the Cell's RELIABILITY Powers! :)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

When the 360 was released, the (360 CPU) Xenos was ground breaking.

Tekkenloving

Corrrection, don't you mean "Console Breaking?', because you'd be right. :)

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]B-b-b-b-b-b-ut the power of the cell!SolidTy

My favorite power of the Cell?

RELIABILITY! :)

Edit: I see you changed your reply to something even more fanboyish now.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]B-b-b-b-b-b-ut the power of the cell!Master-Thief-09

My favorite power of the Cell?

RELIABILITY! :)

I would agree with that statement.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

When the 360 was released, the (360 CPU) Xenos was ground breaking.

SolidTy

Corrrection, don't you mean "Console Breaking?', because you'd be right. :)

:lol: Good one! Wish I would have thought of that first.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Actually, when the 360 was released, the Xenos was ground breaking.

lundy86_4

The next time around, both companies need to work with a great cpu, and a great gpu, rather than have a more outdated re-worked gpu for consoles... and for gods sake put some more ram in there, of course it's not as easy as just sticking in an extra stick, but for god's sake, more ram is needed

I think these days everyone know that PS3 is not more pouwerfull than the 360! Some fanboys on the other hand prefer taking sony lies as facts to justify their purchase.PAL360

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]B-b-b-b-b-b-ut the power of the cell!SolidTy

My favorite power of the Cell?

RELIABILITY! :)

TBH the individual parts are pretty reliable, its just the facts MS kept packing in new components after they finished the design and didnt adjust things like the power supply and cooling system to account for it. Same as when you add turbos to your car to increase power, it works but without an upgrade in the cooling system too the thing will just overheat and break.

Better not happen next gem MS grrrrrr!!!!!! *shakes fist in the air*

OMG not this topic again. The PS3s CPU is more powerfull than the 360s period. No one in there right mind involed with MS and Sony is going to say one is better than the other. 1 PPE and 6 SPEs is capable of more processing power than 3 PPEs its simple logic.djsifer01