360 and shooters...What about the PS3?

So I have been reading on the wonderful world of System Wars. I start to giggle.

"The 360 only has shooter....No variety."

"Get a PS3 and you will get more variety....."

I own a PS3 and it really isonly is used for a DVD player and play a game here and there. So the game variety is a little lacking. Now there are some games I want to play but have not had the time due to playing ME, Crysis and The Witcher to much, but that is another story.

I do have a question for you all. MGS4 is what kind of game? From what I have seen in the gameplay footage it is a stealth TPS. What kind of game is Killzone? Uncharted...TPS with some platforming.How about UT3? What about Haze? From the list have supplied there is a lot of shooter type of games. These are also very hyped games.

Do not get me wrong. I think shooters are a good thing. Company looks at what is selling and makes that type of game. They want to make money.

I understand there are other games out there. Final Fantasy/Lost Odyssey, LBP/Banjo(whatever it is.) and ect ect...

Also please do not say MGS is not a shooter. I can stealth in Crysis so does that not make it a shooter anymore?

The 360 does have its shooters and some of the most high profile games are shooters so that is were it must get it's stereotype.

I understand that this is System wars and there is very little logic used. I just thought I would throw this out there.

"Do not take life too seriously....You will not get out alive!"

Yeah. I agree with you.

The 360 has exactly 79 shooters, 74 Racers, 147 Sports, 238 Action , here's the link to more.. I just cant be bothered, http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?st=&g=0&r=0&sd=2&p=1&c=10 so I guess the 360 is now the "Action console!" LOL!!!

The 360 has exactly 79 shooters, 74 Racers, 147 Sports, 238 Action , here's the link to more.. I just cant be bothered, http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?st=&g=0&r=0&sd=2&p=1&c=10 so I guess the 360 is now the "Action console!" LOL!!!

xX0LDSCH00LXx

How many Platformers? There is a hole in the library, and it's a HUGE rift.

I didn't mention AAA Platformers....or at least of some quality.

Some poster told me that Although the PS3 is one year newer, Sony has already surpassed M$ in 1st party titles. Is there any truth to that?

[QUOTE="xX0LDSCH00LXx"]

The 360 has exactly 79 shooters, 74 Racers, 147 Sports, 238 Action , here's the link to more.. I just cant be bothered, http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?st=&g=0&r=0&sd=2&p=1&c=10 so I guess the 360 is now the "Action console!" LOL!!!

SolidTy

How many Platformers? There is a hole in the library, and it's a HUGE rift.

I didn't mention AAA Platformers....or at least of some quality.

Some poster told me that Although the PS3 is one year newer, Sony has already surpassed M$ in 1st party titles. Is there any truth to that?

There are platformers but they are mostly multiplat. Of course I would consider Kameo more platformer than action adventure. That can be a thin line though. I also consider games like Tomb Raider and God of War tobemostly platformer. Alot are movie/tv based. Ratatouille, The Simpsons etc. Crash Bandicoot just came out.

The thing with R&C though, is I never really saw it as a true platformer. It is more of a TPS. Even from the review "Thankfully there's some really good gameplay along the way. Like in the previous games, the action is viewed from a third-person perspective and is primarily a mix of platforming and shooting, with an emphasis on the shooting."

Then again, let's face it, platformers that don't appear on a Nintendo console really don't sell well. Sly Cooper, Psychonauts etc are examples of great platformers with great reviews that nobody bought. So is it any surprisethat there is not a big focus on the genre anymore? (Sad, because it's one of my favorites).

PS3 has a better variety of games. And PS3 exclusives are better. Baurus_1

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="xX0LDSCH00LXx"]

The 360 has exactly 79 shooters, 74 Racers, 147 Sports, 238 Action , here's the link to more.. I just cant be bothered, http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?st=&g=0&r=0&sd=2&p=1&c=10 so I guess the 360 is now the "Action console!" LOL!!!

_koolgirl_

How many Platformers? There is a hole in the library, and it's a HUGE rift.

I didn't mention AAA Platformers....or at least of some quality.

Some poster told me that Although the PS3 is one year newer, Sony has already surpassed M$ in 1st party titles. Is there any truth to that?

There are platformers but they are mostly multiplat. Of course I would consider Kameo more platformer than action adventure. That can be a thin line though. I also consider games like Tomb Raider and God of War tobemostly platformer. Alot are movie/tv based. Ratatouille, The Simpsons etc. Crash Bandicoot just came out.

The thing with R&C though, is I never really saw it as a true platformer. It is more of a TPS. Even from the review "Thankfully there's some really good gameplay along the way. Like in the previous games, the action is viewed from a third-person perspective and is primarily a mix of platforming and shooting, with an emphasis on the shooting."

Then again, let's face it, platformers that don't appear on a Nintendo console really don't sell well. Sly Cooper, Psychonauts etc are examples of great platformers with great reviews that nobody bought. So is it any surprisethat there is not a big focus on the genre anymore? (Sad, because it's one of my favorites).

*Tear*

What a shame. Platformers can be amazing. I suppose I will have to wait for Brutal Legend...

Yeah, I beat Kameo, Tomb Raider, and I am going thru Simpson's right now. Maybe there's hope yet, but Nintendo does seem to have it locked down. That is one area that I wish M$ would try to exploit a bit more, if not in a 1st party title, at least by getting a 3rd party exclusive.

When the 360 has more jRPGs released AND in-development...you KNOW Sony dropped the ball this gen :|

Also, 360 has a higher scoring game in EVERY genre as far as I can tell.

Oh well, PS3 will catch up and it'll all be balanced out by 2010.

When the 360 has more jRPGs released AND in-development...you KNOW Sony dropped the ball this gen :|

Also, 360 has a higher scoring game in EVERY genre as far as I can tell.

Oh well, PS3 will catch up and it'll all be balanced out by 2010.

ss_49

We were just talking about PLATFORMERS buddy, M$ doesn't have any other than Kameo under it's 1st party. Even third party Platformers according to Xbox.com, there is only one. Howeveer, Koolgirl did list a couple multiplats for those craving platformers. The point it, you said EVERY, and that's incorrect.

Also, remember the 360 has been out for a year longer, and it still doesn't have that many JRPG's. Let's not go crazy here.

There are some Sony JRPG's that are in development that you many not even know about, like Disgaea 3. It's easy to bash the PS3, but make sure you know what you're talking about.

The 360 has a HUGE advantage in the games category, to be sure, but let's not tip the scales with outright misinformation.\

I loved the Sly Cooper series, as did ANYONE that actually played them, I sure hope SUCKER PUNCH brings it next gen when they are done with that new IP.

Let's not get it twisted here with the incident that happen with Jeff some of the reviews are questionable. Also, the PS3 has variety card battling, RPG, shooter, action/adventure, platforming, sports, what ever Warhawk can be defined as. Also, more on the way. The 360 has been out two years now and has not done anything out of the ordinary, besides release over-hyped shooters.

Im a 360 owner and I the lack of platformers blows.

I guess we have Banjo and Kazzoie in development....

[QUOTE="ss_49"]

When the 360 has more jRPGs released AND in-development...you KNOW Sony dropped the ball this gen :|

Also, 360 has a higher scoring game in EVERY genre as far as I can tell.

Oh well, PS3 will catch up and it'll all be balanced out by 2010.

SolidTy

We were just talking about PLATFORMERS buddy, M$ doesn't have any other than Kameo under it's 1st party. Even third party Platformers according to Xbox.com, there is only one. Howeveer, Koolgirl did list a couple multiplats for those craving platformers. The point it, you said EVERY, and that's incorrect.

Also, remember the 360 has been out for a year longer, and it still doesn't have that many JRPG's. Let's not go crazy here.

There are some Sony JRPG's that are in development that you many not even know about, like Disgaea 3. It's easy to bash the PS3, but make sure you know what you're talking about.

The 360 has a HUGE advantage in the games category, to be sure, but let's not tip the scales with outright misinformation.\

I loved the Sly Cooper series, as did ANYONE that actually played them, I sure hope SUCKER PUNCH brings it next gen when they are done with that new IP.

I hate to burn you on a technicality...but:

I said "HIGHER SCORING game in every genre". Not "more games in every genre".

Kameo = 8.7 / R&C = 7.5

8.7 > 7.5

And:

PS3 2008 jRPGs: Disgaea 3 (JP), White Knight Story

360 2008 jRPGs: Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On.

3 > 2

I'm sorry brother, but I posted facts :?

PS3 has a better variety of games. And PS3 exclusives are better. Baurus_1

see, they(cows) just babble out the same crap...i doubt he read the TC post all the way through...and the guy over top just gave a list of all the games to pic from on the 360. but he just posts the same nonesense we've been hearing every day and doesn't even back it up. he just syas it because he' programmed to say it.

and where are the better exclusives? there's only 3 from what i know warhawk, R&C, and uncharted. but all those games have a "but" behind them. there good games but lacking in some way and have to be excused for way to many things to make them even considered good games. there is no one really good exclusive game for the ps3 yet. they all have had a flaw one way or another.

Cows hate on the 360 for being a shooter console yet hype Resistance and killzone 2 as AAA GOTY titles :lol:

Cow logic 101: Be as hypocritical as possible :wink:

PS3 2008 jRPGs: Disgaea 3 (JP), White Knight Story

360 2008 jRPGs: Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On.

3 > 2

I'm sorry brother, but I posted facts :?

ss_49

FF13 may come out in 2008, and I am willing to bet Disgaea 3 will be out here in 2008, there is also Valkyrie of the Battlefield, which looks fun. Also some other PS3 JRPGs.

The 360 is also getting Operation Darkness and Spectral Froce 3 (thanks to Atlus bringing them to the States), and I reamember reading that NIS is making a game for the 360.

I would not list the360 JRPGs as being more than the PS3, because I am sure that will change, but we should agree both system are getting great games. I am happy I have both.

Your post is illogical. Think about it. People say 360 has to many shooters. People say that PS3 has much more variety. Now you go out of your way to say that there wrong by showing that PS3 has shooters? Think about it....you didnt make your point.gamer0100

Well I am not sure I was attempting to make point other than saying that both systems have shooters and a most of the most hyped games for both systems are shooters. I personally do not think shooters are a bad thing. Most of all of the folks that are pointing at the 360 and saying "FPS shooter shooter shooter"are the ones that will be screaming that their shooters are the best ever when they come out. I own a 360, PS3 and a high end gaming PC and spend most of my time withand 360 due to the variety of games. I use myPS3 as a Blue-ray player mostly.

I will agree that the 360 need more platfoming type games. Viva Pinata and Kameoare the only ones I can think of but platforming gameare not my type of game. I wish I could find a link that shows the break out of the games for the 360 that shows that shooters are a small part of the total of games. Oh well.

PS3 has a better variety of games. And PS3 exclusives are better. Baurus_1

:lol: sig'ed

Uncharted is a tps with some platforming...yeah, sure...MGS4?? Hahahaha...the least you could do isonly use shooting games...RFOM, KZ2, Haze, UT3...Kahuna_1

Uncharted is a platformer with a little tps. Please don't think Unchartd is a shooter.

[QUOTE="gamer0100"]Your post is illogical. Think about it. People say 360 has to many shooters. People say that PS3 has much more variety. Now you go out of your way to say that there wrong by showing that PS3 has shooters? Think about it....you didnt make your point.russdmoore

most hyped games for both systems are shooters.

That's just a down right lie. Final Fantasy, MGS4, andGOW3 are the top PS3 most hyped games.

Sony PlayStation 3 has more potential.Udsen

stop pulling that crap :lol:

[QUOTE="russdmoore"]

[QUOTE="gamer0100"]Your post is illogical. Think about it. People say 360 has to many shooters. People say that PS3 has much more variety. Now you go out of your way to say that there wrong by showing that PS3 has shooters? Think about it....you didnt make your point.King_of_Sorrow

most hyped games for both systems are shooters.

That's just a down right lie. Final Fantasy, MGS4, andGOW3 are the top PS3 most hyped games.

kz2 gets the most hype. stop lying :|

cows suffer from delusional thinkings. 100Gamer

and you're not dillusional?? :lol:

kz2 gets the most hype. stop lying :|

100Gamer

Sure KZ2 get a lot of hype, but not the most. The only reason KZ2recieved the hyped it has now was because of the lie about the CGI trailer. Let's be honest here, MGS4, Final Fantasy, and Gran Turismo are the franchises for the PS brand.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

kz2 gets the most hype. stop lying :|

King_of_Sorrow

Sure KZ2 get a lot of hype, but not the most. The only reason KZ2recieved the hyped it has now was because of the lie about the CGI trailer. Let's be honest here, MGS4, Final Fantasy, and Gran Turismo are the franchises for the PS brand.

Yeah, that's a good point. KZ2 may be hyped, but it's not the highest or only ones...

lets see what ps3 has had relesed recently

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune shooter

moha shooter

timeshift shooter

stranglehold shooter

dynasty warriors -shhoter

Assassins Creed shooter with swords

nfs pro street race

smackdown fighter

nba 2ka sports

rachet and clank platformer/shooter

cod4 shooter

tony hawk -sports

skate sports

jucied 2 racer

sega rally racer

dirt racer

so yeah ps3 has lots of non shooters. right :lol:

From the gameplay videos of MGS4 it looks like there is more of a focus on shooting than any other game in the series. But it still seems to focus on stealth...

From the gameplay videos of MGS4 it looks like there is more of a focus on shooting than any other game in the series. But it still seems to focus on stealth...

JiveT

I wouldn't agree with that. There was A LOT of shooting in MGS 3, and there could be a lot of shooting in MGS2 if the gamer so chose.

In fact, in MGS 3, you could shoot out the Enemy's supply Depot's, and they would RUN OUT OF AMMO in a firefight!

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

When the 360 has more jRPGs released AND in-development...you KNOW Sony dropped the ball this gen :|

Also, 360 has a higher scoring game in EVERY genre as far as I can tell.

Oh well, PS3 will catch up and it'll all be balanced out by 2010.

ss_49

We were just talking about PLATFORMERS buddy, M$ doesn't have any other than Kameo under it's 1st party. Even third party Platformers according to Xbox.com, there is only one. Howeveer, Koolgirl did list a couple multiplats for those craving platformers. The point it, you said EVERY, and that's incorrect.

Also, remember the 360 has been out for a year longer, and it still doesn't have that many JRPG's. Let's not go crazy here.

There are some Sony JRPG's that are in development that you many not even know about, like Disgaea 3. It's easy to bash the PS3, but make sure you know what you're talking about.

The 360 has a HUGE advantage in the games category, to be sure, but let's not tip the scales with outright misinformation.\

I loved the Sly Cooper series, as did ANYONE that actually played them, I sure hope SUCKER PUNCH brings it next gen when they are done with that new IP.

I hate to burn you on a technicality...but:

I said "HIGHER SCORING game in every genre". Not "more games in every genre".

Kameo = 8.7 / R&C = 7.5

8.7 > 7.5

And:

PS3 2008 jRPGs: Disgaea 3 (JP), White Knight Story

360 2008 jRPGs: Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On.

3 > 2

I'm sorry brother, but I posted facts :?

[QUOTE="ss_49"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="ss_49"]

When the 360 has more jRPGs released AND in-development...you KNOW Sony dropped the ball this gen :|

Also, 360 has a higher scoring game in EVERY genre as far as I can tell.

Oh well, PS3 will catch up and it'll all be balanced out by 2010.

H8s2spooge

We were just talking about PLATFORMERS buddy, M$ doesn't have any other than Kameo under it's 1st party. Even third party Platformers according to Xbox.com, there is only one. Howeveer, Koolgirl did list a couple multiplats for those craving platformers. The point it, you said EVERY, and that's incorrect.

Also, remember the 360 has been out for a year longer, and it still doesn't have that many JRPG's. Let's not go crazy here.

There are some Sony JRPG's that are in development that you many not even know about, like Disgaea 3. It's easy to bash the PS3, but make sure you know what you're talking about.

The 360 has a HUGE advantage in the games category, to be sure, but let's not tip the scales with outright misinformation.\

I loved the Sly Cooper series, as did ANYONE that actually played them, I sure hope SUCKER PUNCH brings it next gen when they are done with that new IP.

I hate to burn you on a technicality...but:

I said "HIGHER SCORING game in every genre". Not "more games in every genre".

Kameo = 8.7 / R&C = 7.5

8.7 > 7.5

And:

PS3 2008 jRPGs: Disgaea 3 (JP), White Knight Story

360 2008 jRPGs: Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On.

3 > 2

I'm sorry brother, but I posted facts :?

Also, I didn't respond to this, but M$ doesn't Consider KAMEO, their game, a PLATFORMER. Check out Xbox.com for proof.

Yes, I was talking the REAL WORLD, not GS's goofy system.

PS3 has a better variety of games. And PS3 exclusives are better. Baurus_1

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lets see what ps3 has had relesed recently

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Modern Action Adventure

moha First Person Shooter

timeshift First Person Shooter

stranglehold Modern Shooter

dynasty warriors - Beat Em Up

Assassins Creed Action Adventure - Shooter with Swords?? WTF :|

nfs pro street race

smackdown fighter

nba 2ka sports

rachet and clank3D platformer

cod4 shooter

tony hawk -sports

skate sports

jucied 2 racer

sega rally racer

dirt racer

so yeah ps3 has lots of non shooters. right :lol:

imprezawrx500

fixed it up for ya mate ;)

Also i would like to know why lemmings take everything onGS so srsly when it comes to ranking(AAA games, AA games etc) and doesnt consider other sites. And yet they cant takeEVERYTHING onGS srsly, this is GS's official sorted out genres for each of those games. so ps3 doesnt have that many shooters - and the ones listed are multiplat as well. (for recently released as stated way above)