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#1 Dreams-Visions
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According to the predictions, the Playstation 3 will see a sizable drop this month in sales down more than 130,000 consoles to 235, 447 while the Xbox 360 wil see an increase of 105,000. The Wii's drop will be a predicted and substantial 170,455.

Here are the raw predictions:

Nintendo DS 625,445
Nintendo Wii 612,545
Sony PSP 235,447
Sony PS3 275,444
Microsoft Xbox 360 325,488

http://kotaku.com/5035436/eedar-predicts-mammoth-wii-win-in-july-xbox-360-sees-only-increase

that's one helluva drop off if true.

Temporary drop or return to reality?

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#2 TheRealMC01
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I was actually thinking the MGS4 effect would carry on through July..
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#3 Squall18
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Hmm, interesting. Last year the 360 was doing slightly better, this year the ps3 is doing slightly better. And now it's back and forth.

I can see how the 360's library is more apealing. I like the ps3, and I think it will continue to sell very well, but game wise the 360 has more rpg's for me. (except for mgs4)

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#4 sireclaborn
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what with all the predictions on sales today. i expect the 360 to sell more because of the price cut but ill wait for official numbers
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#5 SSCyborg
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I was actually thinking the MGS4 effect would carry on through July..TheRealMC01
Did you see its sales in Japan? Dropped like a rock.
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#6 Dreams-Visions
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I was actually thinking the MGS4 effect would carry on through July..TheRealMC01
Metal Gear games aren't those kinds of games, IMO.

But remember, this is all conjecture; just an educated guess.

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#7 ultimate_123
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Hmm... if the 360 can outsell the PS3, what about when the price cut strikes? I wonder what the numbers are gonna be in August and september.
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#8 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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Well maybe MS will get a clue and drop the 60 Gig to 300$, but dont hold your breath for it, because you might die.
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i think they are dropping the 60 gig to 299$ in september. unless the rumors turn out to be false.
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#10 mfleury87
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I am not surprised at all considering the Xbox 360 just had a price-cut of it's 20GB 360.
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#11 WillieBeamish
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Be prepared to see the Xbox 360 annihilate the PS3 this holiday. Viva Pinata 4-player Co-op, Gears of War 2, Fable 2 with online Co-op, Too Human with online Co-op, Great multiplats like Dead Space... The PS3 is going to get buried.
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#12 dgsag
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Only in the USA, my friend.
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#13 Dreams-Visions
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Only in the USA, my friend.dgsag
indeed.
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#14 jeffdoomsday
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Ps3 should really be doing better, they suck now, they don't even care about their Jrpg fans, they're just letting Microsoft take them.
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#15 LibertySaint
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seen that coming after mgs4.
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#16 Javy03
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If this GUESS is true I see it as a temporary thing as oppossed to "return to reality" as you state it. The reality is so far this year in NA the PS3 has outsold the 360 almost every month. I think the 360 won ONE month and if I recall correctly it was a victory of 5k. With the PS3 outselling the 360 WORLDWIDE I would say the reality is what it has been which is behind the PS3.

The 360 will definatly gain from a price drop, but only for a short time.

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#17 sireclaborn
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seen that coming after mgs4.LibertySaint

??? mgs4 was not the reason the ps3 has been selling more than the 360 all year if anything its would explain june sales only

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#18 Javy03
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seen that coming after mgs4.LibertySaint

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

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#19 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I had figured that the FF13 megaton would have a sizeable impact on PS3 sales - how many people here who were holding out on getting a PS3 for that title did we see say they didn't have that reason to pick up the console now?

But then again, predictions are like opinions, everybody can make em, and most usually do so without any investigation. And while Kotaku may have done some amount of investigation to formulate this, you reeeeally have to take it with a grain of salt :P

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If marketed right, I'd say LBP would be a huge selling point for PS3 this holiday. It has that 'WII' appeal to it I guess.
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.Javy03

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

by what? 1,000 consoles? nominal differences man.

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#22 II-FBIsniper-II
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Would make sense after the new SKU releasing and MGS4 sales coming down.
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#23 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.Dreams-Visions

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

by what? 1,000 consoles? nominal differences man.

If I recall the Jan. was 60K more, Feb. was 30K more and I cant remember the rest but it was alot more then 1000.

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I don't see the 360 out selling in monthly sales in world wide totals. The thing is from the day the PS3 was released it's been closing the gap of the one year lead that the 360 had before the PS3 and Wii were released.

And the thing is the PAL region didn't get the PS3 until March of 2007 and it still outsold the 360 in that region last year.

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#26 sireclaborn
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[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.Dreams-Visions

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

by what? 1,000 consoles? nominal differences man.

no last year the 360 was selling the ps3 2-1 every month, this year the ps3 has equal or sold more than the 360. that would be normal if you want to call the 360 selling more than the ps3 normal plus i believe the ps3 sold more than 1000 more

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.Javy03

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

by what? 1,000 consoles? nominal differences man.

If I recall the Jan. was 60K more, Feb. was 30K more and I cant remember the rest but it was alot more then 1000.

Even if it was 150K MORE than the 360 per month in sales it still will take almost 3 years to catch up....

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#28 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.masiisam

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

by what? 1,000 consoles? nominal differences man.

If I recall the Jan. was 60K more, Feb. was 30K more and I cant remember the rest but it was alot more then 1000.

Even if it was 150K MORE than the 360 per month in sales it still will take almost 3 years to catch up....

3 years if you only counted ONE region but the PS3 is outselling the 360 in ALL THREE regions which I wouldnt be surprised if by the end of 09 it outsold the 360 WORLDWIDE.

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#29 masiisam
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150K is 150K...I did not have to say worldwide..... because it matters absolutely nothing... While the PS3 is selling more it has not even come close to a 150K more per month...

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#30 BioShockOwnz
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Ouch! :o That's a drop like no other. MGS4 hype surely didn't last. It may not be true, though.
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#31 rybe1025
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Well MGS has its fanbase but it never has been able to pull numbers like GTA or Halo so of course the effect would not last.
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#32 Senor_Kami
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I love how the PS3 outsells the 360 every year yet stalwart Sony developers are jumping ship left and right. Maybe they know something we don't *ahem* PS3 = Only Blu-Ray for many... or PS3 owners will only buy FF, MGS and GT5... everything else will crash and die a horrible death regardless of game quality.
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#33 Chutebox
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Temporary

It's the month afte MGS4 was released, which explains the drop for Ps3. And this is including the 360 drop in price if I'm not mistaken.

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#34 Chutebox
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I love how the PS3 outsells the 360 every year yet stalwart Sony developers are jumping ship left and right. Maybe they know something we don't *ahem* PS3 = Only Blu-Ray for many... or PS3 owners will only buy FF, MGS and GT5... everything else will crash and die a horrible death regardless of game quality.Senor_Kami

Ps3 games sell well, so you make no sense.

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I was actually thinking the MGS4 effect would carry on through July..TheRealMC01

Most people that wanted MGS4 already have it by now. Now the 360 is going back to the middle.

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#36 linkin_guy109
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for july this surprises me definately, but for august i fully expect the 360 to outself the ps3 with all of the games that it has coming
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#37 xsubtownerx
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Return to reality.
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i do know that sony stopped shipping their 40 gig SKU's in mid july to make room for teh new 80 gig one
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#39 sireclaborn
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Return to reality.xsubtownerx

what is with this reality crap. the 360 outsold the ps3 2-1 last year when this happens again then people can say this but since the 360 hasn't outsold the ps3 by no more than 5,000 i doubt sales will be like this again. ms will more than likely sell more if the price drop is real but i don't expect this to be long term

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do rrod xboxs count if your switiching them up from best buy if you got a warrenty
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#41 ThugKing6669
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do rrod xboxs count if your switiching them up from best buy if you got a warrentybadbaackwards

Did people count PS2 DREs as sales last gen?

Anyways, I don't think there will be a major jump in 360 or PS3 sales until the holidays. Although there may be a spike in 360 sales due to the new SKU and price drops. As for the PS3 outselling the 360, it may be doing it now, but the PS3 still has to catch up to that extra year the 360 had on it. So unless something major happens, such as a huge PS3 exclusive dropping and moving tons of systems, or the 360 stops selling completely, I think the 360 will still be on top overall. I'm thinking the PS3 and 360 will pretty much be close in sales at the end of this generation.

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#42 spencer_119
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whats the big deal if the 360 outsells the Ps3 in japan its only for one week
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.Javy03

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

Perhaps but the sad thing is PS3 has had 2 big things this year 1 BluRay winning 2 MGS, but they have shot their wad and this holiday Gears 2 and Fable 2 with a price cut will beat sony. I like PS3 but you know this is true.

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#44 badbaackwards
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[QUOTE="badbaackwards"]do rrod xboxs count if your switiching them up from best buy if you got a warrentyThugKing6669

Did people count PS2 DREs as sales last gen?

Anyways, I don't think there will be a major jump in 360 or PS3 sales until the holidays. Although there may be a spike in 360 sales due to the new SKU and price drops. As for the PS3 outselling the 360, it may be doing it now, but the PS3 still has to catch up to that extra year the 360 had on it. So unless something major happens, such as a huge PS3 exclusive dropping and moving tons of systems, or the 360 stops selling completely, I think the 360 will still be on top overall. I'm thinking the PS3 and 360 will pretty much be close in sales at the end of this generation.

i heard that the DRE ps2 were counted in the 120 million ps2s sold thats why i was wondering if the rrod xboxs counted as well

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[QUOTE=""]According to the predictions, the Playstation 3 will see a sizable drop this month in sales down more than 130,000 consoles to 235, 447 while the Xbox 360 wil see an increase of 105,000. The Wii's drop will be a predicted and substantial 170,455.

Here are the raw predictions:

Nintendo DS 625,445
Nintendo Wii 612,545
Sony PSP 235,447
Sony PS3 275,444
Microsoft Xbox 360 325,488 Dreams-Visions

http://kotaku.com/5035436/eedar-predicts-mammoth-wii-win-in-july-xbox-360-sees-only-increase

that's one helluva drop off if true.

Temporary drop or return to reality?

If that's the best the 360 can do after a $50 price cut, it's simply pathetic. It only goes to prove my point that 360 will be dead last this generation.

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#46 kage_53
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Wow...We're sitting and we're talking about sales. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about sales, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about sales. Not the games but we're talking about sales man. How silly is that? We're talking about sales man. We're talking about sales. We're talking about sales. We're not talking about the games. We're talking about sales. When you come to a video game tourney and you see people play, you've seen them give everything they got but we're talking about sales right now. ... Hey I hear you, it's funny to me too, it's strange to me too but we're talking about sales man, we're not even talking about the games, when it actually matters, we're talking about sales... How the hell does it make us better gamers by talking about sales?
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#47 masiisam
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE=""]According to the predictions, the Playstation 3 will see a sizable drop this month in sales down more than 130,000 consoles to 235, 447 while the Xbox 360 wil see an increase of 105,000. The Wii's drop will be a predicted and substantial 170,455.

Here are the raw predictions:

Nintendo DS 625,445
Nintendo Wii 612,545
Sony PSP 235,447
Sony PS3 275,444
Microsoft Xbox 360 325,488 Sihanouk

http://kotaku.com/5035436/eedar-predicts-mammoth-wii-win-in-july-xbox-360-sees-only-increase

that's one helluva drop off if true.

Temporary drop or return to reality?

If that's the best the 360 can do after a $50 price cut, it's simply pathetic. It only goes to prove my point that 360 will be dead last this generation.

Yea I agree...

It's kinda like Sony getting it's @@@ handed to them by NIN not only in Japan..but worldwide....Funny yea think... with so much market dominance last gen for them to get pummeled by NIN and having to play catch up most of this Gen to MS...

Pathetic is right..

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#48 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]seen that coming after mgs4.d3thm0nkey

How, it was outsellig the 360 in NA before MGS4 came out. Why do people forget that so far in 08 the 360 has undersold the PS3 in every region?

Perhaps but the sad thing is PS3 has had 2 big things this year 1 BluRay winning 2 MGS, but they have shot their wad and this holiday Gears 2 and Fable 2 with a price cut will beat sony. I like PS3 but you know this is true.

Gears 2 and Fable 2 are suppossed to beat Sony?? If I recall last year MS had Bioshock, ME and Halo 3 (its biggest game) and the PS3 still outsold the 360. Blu ray winning hasnt pushed as many consoles as people think, people get a PS3 for BOTH of its features, the whole, PS3 sells as a blu ray player myth is crap and its game attach ratio proves this to be wrong which is the same as the Wii and 360 when it was that age.

Gears 2 I dont see pushing many consoles seeing as I believe gears 1 was the game that would have sold the consoles. I dont imagine a group waiting for the second one to jump in. Fable 2 will have even less of an impact and the price drop will be a temporary benefit like most price drops.

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#49 jmdude
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Probably because of Microsoft's price cut on the 360
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#50 fjburgos
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expected the 360 to sell more and the ps3 expected to sell less, why first the price drop for the 360 second if you go to the stores and online you see that the ps3 is almost out of stock inn every web sites or have limited supply,if you go to store they have been the same, you can't find the mountains of ps3 that they have a few months ago. but everyone expected the ps3 to outsell the 360 are crazy the temporary price cut make a impact althout not what i expected, but lets see the real numbers first.