...yet Crysis 2 looks better than both, and is on 360 :|
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Crysis 2 console version doesn't look as good as UC2. The PC version will look alot better, though. VadameeNot only does it look better than U2 but its more impressive given all that they were able to pull off on such limited hardware. You're not listening, friend. Crysis 2 does not look better than Uncharted 2. It just doesn't. Sorry.
@Hahadouken: Why do we have threads comparing Heavy Rain, a game that doesn't even look spectacular, to Crysis when it ain't even out yet? :( How is that OK and this comparison isn't.
[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Crysis 2 console version doesn't look as good as UC2. The PC version will look alot better, though. Jared2720
WOW! You're so convincing /sarcasm
In my honest opinion... Naughty Dog's graphics engine makes the characters in Uncharted look like grease-covered light bulbs.. They seem to have corrected that for Uncharted 2 though.
Howsabout you try using a game out rather than ubsubstantiated claims on an unreleased multiplatform title... that will look waaaay better on PC than either of the consoles.
I expect to see both consoles raise the bar on their graphical capabilities as the current hardware generation matures. Right now the overwhelming consensus from gamers, reviewers, and the industry at large is that the PS3 has the best looking game(s) on a console to date. You don't have to be a fanboy to believe that, you have to be a fanboy not to believe that. Can the 360 match the visuals of KZ2 or UC2? We don't know. It might be able to, and I certainly hope both systems can do better than anything we've seen yet down line line. The only thing we do know is that the 360 hasn't produced that level of visuals yet.
How about not troll off topic before I report you to the troll police! We've seen footage of the game running on actual hardware, tech demo or not, its still using the technology that we have in our homes. Unlike that Killzone 2 video fallacy we saw back in 2005 that wasn't even done by the studio that the game was being developed by. Fact is that Crytek has demonstrated with Crysis that they don't downgrade their graphics engine upon release - Pre-release footage of Crysis looks worse than the actual game, so there is a very good chance that it could launch looking even better than what we've seen already.Howsabout you try using a game out rather than ubsubstantiated claims on an unreleased multiplatform title... that will look waaaay better on PC than either of the consoles.
I expect to see both consoles raise the bar on their graphical capabilities as the current hardware generation matures. Right now the overwhelming consensus from gamers, reviewers, and the industry at large is that the PS3 has the best looking game(s) on a console to date. You don't have to be a fanboy to believe that, you have to be a fanboy not to believe that. Can the 360 match the visuals of KZ2 or UC2? We don't know. It might be able to, and I certainly hope both systems can do better than anything we've seen yet down line line. The only thing we do know is that the 360 hasn't produced that level of visuals yet.
santoron
I don't agree. There is no definitive proof that the 360 can't do anything that the PS3 can. The only proof the UC2 and KZ2 represent are that there are some very skilled, very well funded and very determined developers in Sony's camp.beekayjayPeople's sarcasm detectors are broken!
@Hahadouken: Why do we have threads comparing Heavy Rain, a game that doesn't even look spectacular, to Crysis when it ain't even out yet? :( How is that OK and this comparison isn't.Vadamee
It isn't Ok. I would never say it was.
The Crysis Demos look amazing....however
Dose that mean that xbox360 can run engines like Uncharted 2's and Killzone 2's? No...no it dose not. There are more to those engines that make the graphics look amazingthan just the textures we see on the objects
Ladies and gentlemen, you find yourselves in front of a very peculiar specimen called a lemming. He, among other traits, has such a powerful imagination that they sometimes can't discern reality from fiction. For example, they can see things that doesn't exist. This is what makes possible for them to talk about various graphic kings in their favorite console. This behavior is most common in hostile environments like SW where competition for ownage is fearless. Sometimes their powers are so strong that they can't even see reality when faced with it like with the infamous Forza 3 case.OdrecHaha that made my day!
Can anyone provide hard evidence for either side of the argument? I await your links.musicalmacThere will never be any hard evidence unless we examine these games from code level... Even then someone with knowledge of computer programming will be required and maybe some sort of custom software that gauges performance and/or resources. Its mostly a matter of opinion: If I ask my four year old niece which games looked best, she'll pick something which is the most pleasing to the eye. Comparing SMG to Crysis, she'll pick SMG every time.
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Can anyone provide hard evidence for either side of the argument? I await your links.VadameeThere will never be any hard evidence unless we examine these games from code level... Even then someone with knowledge of computer programming will be required and maybe some sort of custom software that gauges performance and/or resources. Its mostly a matter of opinion: If I ask my four year old niece which games looked best, she'll pick something which is the most pleasing to the eye. Comparing SMG to Crysis, she'll pick SMG every time. Correct. So why are you all squabbling like 4 year olds?
Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Can anyone provide hard evidence for either side of the argument? I await your links.VadameeThere will never be any hard evidence unless we examine these games from code level... Even then someone with knowledge of computer programming will be required and maybe some sort of custom software that gauges performance and/or resources. Its mostly a matter of opinion: If I ask my four year old niece which games looked best, she'll pick something which is the most pleasing to the eye. Comparing SMG to Crysis, she'll pick SMG every time.So how come cows are quick to claim "graphics king" if what you say can be applied even now?
[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Can anyone provide hard evidence for either side of the argument? I await your links.musicalmacThere will never be any hard evidence unless we examine these games from code level... Even then someone with knowledge of computer programming will be required and maybe some sort of custom software that gauges performance and/or resources. Its mostly a matter of opinion: If I ask my four year old niece which games looked best, she'll pick something which is the most pleasing to the eye. Comparing SMG to Crysis, she'll pick SMG every time. Correct. So why are you all squabbling like 4 year olds?
isnt that what we usually do in SW?
Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
vaderhater
How can lemmings be owning cows with a game that could potentially end up looking better on PS3? xbox fanboy speculation is quite amusing.
Can anyone provide hard evidence for either side of the argument? I await your links.musicalmac
Depends on what two sides you are referring to.
I bet we can come up with plenty of links establishing that the current accepted consensus is that the 2 mentioned PS3 games are considered to have the best graphics on a console to date from all over the place. That one would be easy.
Links establishing the 360 has a game coming out that outmatches those aforementioned games? No. Don't think that one can be accomplished.
Links establishing that the 360 version of Crysis 2 is going to be the finest looking console game when it releases? Once again, I think that would be impossible at this point.
Links proving once and for all that the 360 does not have the capability to render KZ2 or UC2 level graphics. Not happening.
Links establishing that the 360 hasn't produced a game on par with UC2's or KZ2's visuals yet? That one should be about as easy as the first one.
That was my point earlier in the thread... and TC hilariously threatened to report me for it :P All we can actually show is what has actually been released, and brought out for the gamers, the reviewers, and the rest of the industry to see and compare. Everything else would be purely conjecture. For example, TC's assertions about Crysis 2's 360 version.
Only some of us. I suppose that was my shout out to those of you who know better!isnt that what we usually do in SW?
ogvampire
After such a well-consturcted reply, I hate to respond like this, but- I was referring to the two sides of the argument, 360 can/can't do {insert game title here}. Only someone who has any real programing knowledge can comment. Either that- or we get technical links.Depends on what two sides you are referring to.
I bet we can come up with plenty of links establishing that the current accepted consensus is that the 2 mentioned PS3 games are considered to have the best graphics on a console to date from all over the place. That one would be easy.
Links establishing the 360 has a game coming out that outmatches those aforementioned games? No. Don't think that one can be accomplished.
Links establishing that the 360 version of Crysis 2 is going to be the finest looking console game when it releases? Once again, I think that would be impossible at this point.
Links proving once and for all that the 360 does not have the capability to render KZ2 or UC2 level graphics. Not happening.
Links establishing that the 360 hasn't produced a game on par with UC2's or KZ2's visuals yet? That one should be about as easy as the first one.
That was my point earlier in the thread... and TC hilariously threatened to report me for it :P All we can actually show is what has actually been released, and brought out for the gamers, the reviewers, and the rest of the industry to see and compare. Everything else would be purely conjecture. For example, TC's assertions about Crysis 2's 360 version.
santoron
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]
Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
playharderfool
How can lemmings be owning cows with a game that could potentially end up looking better on PS3? xbox fanboy speculation is quite amusing.
Even if it did a tiny bit we will still win as evedenced by tons of the 360 cant do this and that posts will be owned. Although with multiplats cows have more to worry about with losing that arguement than we do!X brand or XO ?:lol:
also I hear alot of xbox fans say xbox360 exclusives aren't as grapically impressive as PS3 games because they aren't built from the ground up, but Forza had a custom engine built from the gound up for the xbox360 that xbox fans thought would crush the graphics of GTp/GT5 so like...uh WHAHAPPPEND?
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]
Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
playharderfool
How can lemmings be owning cows with a game that could potentially end up looking better on PS3? xbox fanboy speculation is quite amusing.
How would it look better on PS3? If you're referring to that interview about the PS3's version, they simply said that they have put equal effort in the PS3 version relative to the other two. They even said the PS3's GPU is the weakest of all platforms... Or are you clinging to the stigma that "T3h cell" has hidden power? Isn't it funny how everyone that disagrees with cows are lemmings and vise versa? I mean what says I'm a lemming? Why can't I be a sheep?Well, have fun in the future, it looks like the "cows" are owning you at the moment, though.Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
vaderhater
[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Well, have fun in the future, it looks like the "cows" are owning you at the moment, though. Indeed we shall! Its gonna be fun!:twisted:Well TC the cows disagree with your post. Oh well.....I guess in the future lemmings will indeed become cattle ranchers as we shall all be owing lots of cows!:P
The irons in the fire! It is going to be fun times indeed!:twisted:
Hahadouken
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