360 fans forget about one game that has huge shot to become a CGK.

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#1 BlbecekBobecek
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360 fans here on SW are really celebrating so called console graphics kings that dont really deserve it - Crysis 2 and Gears 3. Before Crysis 2, nothing came even close to PS3 exclusives.

Crysis 2 put 360 back on the map with very impressive lighting effects and only performance issues, texture popins, bad physics and lack of polish kept it from being up there on par with the best looking PS3 exclusives.

Now Gears 3 is on the horizon and 360 fans are dancing around their fireplayces worshipping a new CGK again, but from what Ive seen its basically just another Unreal Engine game with some nice textures and incredibly lame character animations. It will indeed be excellent shooter that will be great fun to play, but its not much about graphics.

And in the meantime idSoft is cooking their Rage and many Carmacs quotes indicate that 360 will be getting the superior version once again - and from what Ive seen so far THIS is finally the game on 360 that has a shot on matching and maybe even beating games like God of War 3, Killzone 2, Killzone 3 and Uncharted 2 graphically, yet Im not hearing much hype about it. Your thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxaaNosNa_Q

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#2 balfe1990
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Rage seems far too complex for a console to even be a contender.

I predict performance issues and technical hiccups galore once October rolls around.

It'll be great on PC, but on consoles? I have my doubts.

Also, Gears 3 looks incredible, it'll be far more consistent visually than Rage.

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#3 BlbecekBobecek
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Rage seems far too complex for a console to even be a contender.

I predict performance issues and technical hiccups galore once October rolls around.

It'll be great on PC, but on consoles? I have my doubts.

Also, Gears 3 looks incredible, it'll be far more consistent visually than Rage.

balfe1990

It was my understanding that Rage is being developed specifically for consoles and the PC version will be just a port. Also the gameplay footage looks amazing so far.

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#6 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Rage seems far too complex for a console to even be a contender.

I predict performance issues and technical hiccups galore once October rolls around.

It'll be great on PC, but on consoles? I have my doubts.

Also, Gears 3 looks incredible, it'll be far more consistent visually than Rage.

BlbecekBobecek

It was my understanding that Rage is being developed specifically for consoles and the PC version will be just a port. Also the gameplay footage looks amazing so far.

I don't know, seems too good to be true. I'm taking it with a pinch of salt anyway.

I mean, you have to hand it to the consoles. Ancient hardware that's still chugging out impressive graphics, but this will be too much methinks.

Hopefully I'm wrong. Forever the pessimist.

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Gears 3 looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgFfBBiyd-E

This is from the leaked version and it's multiplayer.

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I read a preview in "360" a uk magazine months ago, that was about Rage, they went crazy about the graphics (unusual for them as they tend to be more like edge than some of the other mags). they said it was almost impossible to believe it was running from a 360. that same issue they reviewed crysis2, giving it a decent score and saying that its graphics were great, just not as good as what they had seen from rage. as for your opinion that crysis 2 isn't up there with the best looking PS3 exclusive, have a listen to this guy (all the way till the end though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fgsts106mat

Sorry, too much idiocy for me to handle for more than a few seconds.

KZ3 vs Crysis 2 debate was definitely put to an end by this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CBd6QX8nps Its the only comparison I know of that compares similar scenes and effects of those two games and its clear Crysis 2 is not even close. Look at the glass shards or the water that actually has physics in Killzone 3 while being a just a flat with flat effects on it in Crysis 2. Not even a contest and thats BEFORE you consider performance.

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#12 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Rage seems far too complex for a console to even be a contender.

I predict performance issues and technical hiccups galore once October rolls around.

It'll be great on PC, but on consoles? I have my doubts.

Also, Gears 3 looks incredible, it'll be far more consistent visually than Rage.

balfe1990

It was my understanding that Rage is being developed specifically for consoles and the PC version will be just a port. Also the gameplay footage looks amazing so far.

I don't know, seems too good to be true. I'm taking it with a pinch of salt anyway.

I mean, you have to hand it to the consoles. Ancient hardware that's still chugging out impressive graphics, but this will be too much methinks.

Hopefully I'm wrong. Forever the pessimist.

Yea, too good to be true. But if it is true, 360 will finally get its console graphics king (and once that actually happens I will be pleased to admit it - Crysis 2 and GeoW 3 are not the case though).

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#13 balfe1990
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GeoW 3 are not the case though.

BlbecekBobecek

Oh, we'll see ;)

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#16 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Sorry, too much idiocy for me to handle for more than a few seconds.

KZ3 vs Crysis 2 debate was definitely put to an end by this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CBd6QX8nps Its the only comparison I know of that compares similar scenes and effects of those two games and its clear Crysis 2 is not even close. Look at the glass shards or the water that actually has physics in Killzone 3 while being a just a flat with flat effects on it in Crysis 2. Not even a contest and thats BEFORE you consider performance.

sts106mat

you mean you dont want to hear someone disagreeing with your opinion. The video you linked proves nothing, both games equally comparable. by the way was the PS3 version of crysis2? or 360? 360 version had a higher resolution than PS3 version. also youtube comparison video? seriously?

I dont know what that guys opinion is because I turned him off after about 15 seconds. If he wants to tell me something, he can just do it. No need to act like I was a "bro from his ghetto" or something.

Also the video proves everything and even the youtube quality is enough to see the difference. Look at the water explosion comparison (starting at 1:54) or at the glass shots (starting at 2:42). We are not talking about opinions "oh I think that one is nicer", we are talking about facts.

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#17 WithoutGraceXII
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Wasn't it established there is no such thing as console graphics king? And rly if you're going to hype a game based on graphics...well....idk there's not much hope for you.
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#18 BlbecekBobecek
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Translation:

"I really wish for you guys to believe PS3 is superior graphically, and Crysis 2 & Gears 3 aren't graphic kings.Please accept that & ignore those two games and let's shift focus on to Rage..so I would have less worries trying to convince people my beloved ps3 is inferior graphically to X360 when Crysis 2 and/or Gears 3 are mentioned"

Mystery_Writer

Thanks for revealing us your reading skills, now would you share your opinions with us (thats what discussions are for, you know), or will you just leave this one trollpost here and quit?

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I think Gears 3 looks fantastic, and easily rivals the best PS3 games. I dunno why people really care, just like nobody will when a PC multiplat/exclusive with better graphics is brought up :P

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#21 gpuking
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KZ3 definitely proves to be above crysis 2 judging by the overall balance of graphics. As for Gears 3, it's somewhat closer to KZ3 thanks to a native 1280 x 720 res, FXAA, good AF, good quality textures and superb motion blur, but I would still put KZ3 above it due to a very crucial deferred renderer, MLAA and bigger scale. Rage on the other hand has absolutely no chance of getting CGK.
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360 fans here on SW are really celebrating so called console graphics kings that dont really deserve it - Crysis 2 and Gears 3. Before Crysis 2, nothing came even close to PS3 exclusives.

Crysis 2 put 360 back on the map with very impressive lighting effects and only performance issues, texture popins, bad physics and lack of polish kept it from being up there on par with the best looking PS3 exclusives.

Now Gears 3 is on the horizon and 360 fans are dancing around their fireplayces worshipping a new CGK again, but from what Ive seen its basically just another Unreal Engine game with some nice textures and incredibly lame character animations. It will indeed be excellent shooter that will be great fun to play, but its not much about graphics.

And in the meantime idSoft is cooking their Rage and many Carmacs quotes indicate that 360 will be getting the superior version once again - and from what Ive seen so far THIS is finally the game on 360 that has a shot on matching and maybe even beating games like God of War 3, Killzone 2, Killzone 3 and Uncharted 2 graphically, yet Im not hearing much hype about it. Your thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxaaNosNa_Q

BlbecekBobecek
ehm Crysis 2 did NOT put 360 back on the map. Gears 2 look much better in the first place.
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#23 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]I read a preview in "360" a uk magazine months ago, that was about Rage, they went crazy about the graphics (unusual for them as they tend to be more like edge than some of the other mags). they said it was almost impossible to believe it was running from a 360. that same issue they reviewed crysis2, giving it a decent score and saying that its graphics were great, just not as good as what they had seen from rage. as for your opinion that crysis 2 isn't up there with the best looking PS3 exclusive, have a listen to this guy (all the way till the end though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fgsts106mat

Sorry, too much idiocy for me to handle for more than a few seconds.

KZ3 vs Crysis 2 debate was definitely put to an end by this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CBd6QX8nps Its the only comparison I know of that compares similar scenes and effects of those two games and its clear Crysis 2 is not even close. Look at the glass shards or the water that actually has physics in Killzone 3 while being a just a flat with flat effects on it in Crysis 2. Not even a contest and thats BEFORE you consider performance.

you mean you dont want to hear someone disagreeing with your opinion. The video you linked proves nothing, both games equally comparable. by the way was the PS3 version of crysis2? or 360? 360 version had a higher resolution than PS3 version. also youtube comparison video? seriously?

Your video proves nothing either. It's just a hillbilly admitting he has no knowledge about the subject whatsoever. And if it doesn't a matter why are you discussing this. The games are very far from equally comparable. KZ3 had better AA, resolution, FPS, no screen tear, animations etc etc