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#1 Heri012
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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

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#2 mlbslugger86
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lack of originality?the 360 has more new ip's than xbox 1 did.
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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012

OMG!! Dude the X360 has many great new IPs now. but if you want to think that than just don't buy one buy whats best for you

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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012
Your evidence is pretty underwhelming. Anyone who is educated knows Viva Pinata is not the only non-shooter game on the 360. Do some research, I did. That's how I ended up with a 360.
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#5 jwat4
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lack of originality?the 360 has more new ip's than xbox 1 did.mlbslugger86
That doesnt really say much.... And yeah in all honesty I am tired of killing aliens that have invaded earth inorder to destroy all humans...its gotten pretty old pretty fast...but then again originality seems to be a thing of the past...every game is a spin off of a successful game...its adds and subtracts a few features but never really sets itself apart from anything else in its genre... Of course I would say this is true for both the 360 and PS3...neither have any truely original games out yet, of course thats just my opinion.
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#6 crazyjames1080
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Check out Dead Rising.
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#7 too_much_eslim
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Ninety Nine Knights, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, Table tennis, Crackdown, Gears of War, Saints Row, chromehounds, and many more games says i am a new ip.
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]Check out Dead Rising.Jandurin
They came up with that idea back in the 60s! Or whenever that Romero movie came out.



Yeah true. It seems like a cross between State of Emergency and Shaun of the Dead. It is likely the best choice on 360 right now though.
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Ninety Nine Knights, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, Table tennis, Crackdown, Gears of War, Saints Row, chromehounds, and many more games says i am a new ip.too_much_eslim
, Kameo and probably some others. I think that this is quite some originality for the first year.
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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012

lets examine two lists shall we:
PS3 "megagames":
MGS4
GT5
FF13
DMC4
GoW3
Tekken 6
Heavenly Sword
R:FoM

Xbox 360 "megagames":
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Bioshock
Alan Wake
Ninja Gaiden 2
Gears of War
GRAW 2
DoA5
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

X360 has 6 big new IPs, PS3 has 2. Who has less original games again?
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#12 Heri012
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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

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[QUOTE="Heri012"]Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

bloodychimp

lets examine two lists shall we:
PS3 "megagames":
MGS4
GT5
FF13
DMC4
GoW3
Tekken 6
Heavenly Sword
R:FoM

Xbox 360 "megagames":
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Bioshock
Alan Wake
Ninja Gaiden 2
Gears of War
GRAW 2
DoA5
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

X360 has 6 big new IPs, PS3 has 2. Who has less original games again?

"Hmm... Indeed, my dear Watson. Excellent deduction"
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#14 musicalmac  Moderator
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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Heri012
So... much... punctuation!! Eyes... confused!!
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this may have been true a year or so ago, but now it is just BS and incorrect.
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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Heri012
Can you give us example of PS3 games that achieve what you just mentioned? In the lines of a new genre I am quite interested.
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But.t?Like Jessica Alba's but.t?Yeah,i would totally want a piece of that.
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[QUOTE="Heri012"]What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

musicalmac
So... much... punctuation!! Eyes... confused!!

Don't mind. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Calling dead rising an RE ripoff for example is just crazy. Also he mentions all those games, and just puts behind it "just another *insert games genre here*" mentioning a lot of genres. Prey was creative, dead rising was creative, gears of war was creative etc. He's never played the games, that's all.
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#20 lawlessx
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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Heri012
mass effect is just another RPG?.... :lol:
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#21 SecretPolice
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                And you say you never had a more meaningless statement than mine, okie dokie lmao. Seams to go without saying that video games rehash video games; no? No matter what game you pick, someone is bound to name another game it reminds them of. Someone said Table Tennis is new, yes it is but it reminds me of Pong.

               Anyone looking to argue can always find a way. Thank you for flamming me lol got me up an adam lmao.

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Ninety Nine Knights, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, Table tennis, Crackdown, Gears of War, Saints Row, chromehounds, and many more games says i am a new ip.too_much_eslim
He said original! Ninety Nine Knights is almost exactly the same as Dynasty Warriors albeit a little more characters on screen at once. Dead Rising is so unoriginal it hurts. Viva Pinata is original! Have you ever heard of growing living Pinatas in a garden and shipping them off to entertain at parties before? No. That is original. Table Tennis isn't original! God, people were playing it with pong! Crackdown is very similar to GTA, and the idea of a superhuman copper ain't all that imaginative either. Saints Row is so much like GTA it hurts, so no, not original.

Oh and after all that, don't think I hate the 360, coz I got one, and I love it and cherish it. You just made me so angry by claiming that these titles were original, as the only original title there is Viva Pinata.

Get it right next time, you made yourself look like you had the basic understanding of an 11 year old.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Ninety Nine Knights, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, Table tennis, Crackdown, Gears of War, Saints Row, chromehounds, and many more games says i am a new ip.Matmoo_Wii60

He said original! Ninety Nine Knights is almost exactly the same as Dynasty Warriors albeit a little more characters on screen at once. Dead Rising is so unoriginal it hurts. Viva Pinata is original! Have you ever heard of growing living Pinatas in a garden and shipping them off to entertain at parties before? No. That is original. Table Tennis isn't original! God, people were playing it with pong! Crackdown is very similar to GTA, and the idea of a superhuman copper ain't all that imaginative either. Saints Row is so much like GTA it hurts, so no, not original.

Oh and after all that, don't think I hate the 360, coz I got one, and I love it and cherish it. You just made me so angry by claiming that these titles were original, as the only original title there is Viva Pinata.

Get it right next time, you made yourself look like you had the basic understanding of an 11 year old.

He said  new ip these are new ips.

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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Heri012
So you want an new Genre?
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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012
Ignorance Approved!!!
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#26 coltonnaslund
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Prettymuch........but if you like shooters.....there is no choice......it is only 360

and that is what it knows!!!

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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012
Why do.....you....... type.... like...... this....it...annoys...me... and....it's clear..... you don't......know.... anything..... about...the .....xbox 360's.....game library
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I own 16 360 games, only 1 FPS :shock:
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What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Heri012
Okay, now you are just being silly. So basically you are asking for a new genre. When was the last time a new genre was created? You are expecting too much.
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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012

Forgetting
         Xbox Live Arcade?
            Wik: Fable of Souls
            Geometry Wars
            Cloning Clyde
            Uno
            Assault Heroes
            Outpost Kaloki X
            RoboBlitz
            Small Arms
    Dead Rising
    Condemned
    Viva Pinata
    Saints Row
    Crackdown
    Rockstar's Table Tennis
    Gears of War
    Kameo
    That is all I feel like listing right now, but you get the point.

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Lack of originality.......I never see some fresh and original 360 games like Okami, Shadow of the colossus, Trauma Center, Kamatary Series.....Only shooting, shooting & shooting....Shooting human or alien to death......Except Viva Pinata of course.......Is that only 360 to offer?

Heri012
Wow you are sooooooooo wrong!
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These games felt fresh to me (you may feel differently based on experience and games played,  this is just my opinion) for different reasons:

Totemball (interactive control mechanics)

Just Cause (the base diving, parachuting and stunts)

Hexic (rules and strategy for the puzzler)

Gears of War (power re-load, cover system felt fresh compared to others)

Condemned (first entertainment media to put me on edge and scare some in years)

Enchanted Arms (*only the grid element of the battles felt fresh)

Dead Rising (It just felt original)

I feel that some games because of their world, characters, story and/or gameplay mechanics can really help games feel fresh even if they do fall into a specific genre.  It is like saying a Final Fantasy can't still feel fresh to some people because you ultimately do very similar things or that certain games that aren't even listed can't continue to follow their genre defined standard and still be fun because they provide good solid gaming.

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[QUOTE="Heri012"]What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

lawlessx
mass effect is just another RPG?.... :lol:

it could be.

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Alan Wake looks incredible.
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I think that it's obvious that the unique games, which won't sell as much as other games, are going to go to whatever system has sold the most consoles.
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#37 xboxps2cube
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meh.... i only see more emphasis on shooters than orignal games, i went to the store and haven't heard some of the games that came out for 360..i was surprised, im usually on top of things.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]Check out Dead Rising.crazyjames1080
They came up with that idea back in the 60s! Or whenever that Romero movie came out.



Yeah true. It seems like a cross between State of Emergency and Shaun of the Dead. It is likely the best choice on 360 right now though.

It's nothing like State of Emergency...NOTHING

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It's nothing like State of Emergency...NOTHING

creekfan_basic


The Mall looks similar but apart from that there isn't much of a similarity.
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#40 DrinkDuff
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Heri012"]What I wanna say here is ORIGINAL & FRESH GAMES......NEW GENRE......NOT VIOLENT.......GeoW???? Another 3rd person shooter.......Dead Rising???? Another Hank & slash zombie ( RE rip off ).....Mass Effect?????Another RPG......Prey, Halo 3,???? Another FPS.......Too Human, Alan Wake???? Another Action Advanture........I means ORIGINAL, FRESH & CREATIVE......Completely different...Like you see it for the first time......

Jandurin
Okay, now you are just being silly. So basically you are asking for a new genre. When was the last time a new genre was created? You are expecting too much.

Doesn't have to be a new genre, but how about more games like Culdcept/Katamari/Viva Pinata?

Good point. Actually now I am curious as to what genre Katamari belongs to...
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#42 DrinkDuff
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"]Good point. Actually now I am curious as to what genre Katamari belongs to...Jandurin
Tank simulation? :P

 It cetainly is an oddity. :lol: