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#1 IcEpicK22
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:| idk what to say....jasper?

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#2 EuropeGangsta
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2 rings means it's overheating. In the glass box, lol bad idea!
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LOL LOL LOL. How pathetic!
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#4 Al3x_n90
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So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything?Grrr if my 360 gets the RROD again i'll....(it's out of waranty)
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#5 Floppy_Jim
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Didn't this also happen at last year's GDC? Twice?
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#6 Al3x_n90
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Didn't this also happen at last year's GDC? Twice? Floppy_Jim

Well i think only once...or was it twice? anyway i know it did :P

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#7 Floppy_Jim
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So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything? Al3x_n90
Either I'm going crazy here, but every time I see you, your level seems to switch between 15 and 17. Anyway this is just 1 example, I guess the Jasper is still bound to get RROD sometimes.
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#8 bufu21
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Why dont they just fix it already n then maybe i might by the damn thing. But yer very happy with my ps3 and soon to be playing Kz2
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#9 IcEpicK22
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2 rings means it's overheating. In the glass box, lol bad idea!EuropeGangsta

:? that box isn't actualy a box, it doesn't have glass at the back, i think

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#10 EuropeGangsta
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So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything?Grrr if my 360 gets the RROD again i'll....(it's out of waranty) Al3x_n90
This is not RROD. If you let it cool down it should be okay.
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#11 Nagidar
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2 Red Lights is not the RROD, its overheated....
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#12 11Marcel
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It was two red lights, not three. I don't know what that means, but it could be overheating in that closed glass box. Nice try.
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#13 delta3074
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Link1

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

IcEpicK22
RROD is 3 red lights, that console has 2 which means it's just overheating, not a general hardware failure, hence your thread fails.
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#14 TOAO_Cyrus1
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THats the overheating signal, not the RROD code. Epic fail on your part. Obviously it doesnt have enough airflow in that case.
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#15 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything? Floppy_Jim
Either I'm going crazy here, but every time I see you, your level seems to switch between 15 and 17. Anyway this is just 1 example, I guess the Jasper is still bound to get RROD sometimes.

No, you're fine...actually i got reported and suspeded for a couple of days because i quoated somebody and said "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^" as in "what he said" and that was considered disruptive posting and my level went down AGAIN from 17 to 15.Now it'll probably get back up at 17 or something.Actually i think i've been a member of gs longer than you(i think, too lazy to check your profile) and i was once level 20, so imagine how much i got moded :evil:

Anyway, i thought jasper was really gonna do something, but really now, at a game show?

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#16 MasterY_28
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[QUOTE="IcEpicK22"]

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

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RROD is 3 red lights, that console has 2 which means it's just overheating, not a general hardware failure, hence your thread fails.

Still made the console shut down. What a piece of cheap hardware. HALO Wars really looks ugly btw!
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So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything?Grrr if my 360 gets the RROD again i'll....(it's out of waranty) Al3x_n90

Guess what....MS hasnt fixed anything at all with jasper or any other "code name" chip. They WILL NOT fix the 360 so everyone quit expecting it...sorry

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#18 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="IcEpicK22"]

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

MasterY_28
RROD is 3 red lights, that console has 2 which means it's just overheating, not a general hardware failure, hence your thread fails.

Still made the console shut down. What a piece of cheap hardware. HALO Wars really looks ugly btw!

I can make any console or PC do that, just block the vents and it will shut down automatically to prevent damage. Its just the 360 that has those obvious blinking lights.
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything?Grrr if my 360 gets the RROD again i'll....(it's out of waranty) FunkyHeadHunter

Guess what....MS hasnt fixed anything at all with jasper or any other "code name" chip. They WILL NOT fix the 360 so everyone quit expecting it...sorry

Read the rest of the thread, thats not RROD.
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#20 McdonaIdsGuy
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That's only overheating which is obvious look at the place where the console is in..
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#21 mamkem6
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Embarrassing
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#22 EuropeGangsta
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[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]So does this mean the jasper didn't fix anything?Grrr if my 360 gets the RROD again i'll....(it's out of waranty) TOAO_Cyrus1

Guess what....MS hasnt fixed anything at all with jasper or any other "code name" chip. They WILL NOT fix the 360 so everyone quit expecting it...sorry

Read the rest of the thread, thats not RROD.

A lot of people didn't even click the link... And I already pointed that out with the first reply.
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#23 TOAO_Cyrus1
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Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.
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#24 JunkTrap
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It's an overheating issue nonetheless. A problem which I had with my xbox 360. The thing is even after letting it cool down, it would happen over and over again. The problem doesn't go away with a simple cool down. I had to send mine in for repairs. Then I ditched it.
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Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.TOAO_Cyrus1
The ones saying is RROD are pro ps3...and i doubt they own the xbox360 since they should know already that isn't RROD.
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#26 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="MasterY_28"][QUOTE="delta3074"]RROD is 3 red lights, that console has 2 which means it's just overheating, not a general hardware failure, hence your thread fails.TOAO_Cyrus1
Still made the console shut down. What a piece of cheap hardware. HALO Wars really looks ugly btw!

I can make any console or PC do that, just block the vents and it will shut down automatically to prevent damage. Its just the 360 that has those obvious blinking lights.

i actually tried blocking the vents on my old pc to see what happens, with a Gigabyte motherboard(they put out way more heat than others) it didn't shut down, sadly.My 360 froze up on me a about 3 times(i think) and it was in a very well ventilated place, my ps3 never did that dough, even dough since about 4 months ago i had it standing on top of a big SD tv, and the flat part of the tv(lol) was not as wide as my ps3, so it's rear little legs thingys(lol) were in the air and the rear section of my ps3 was fllat on the tv.

And i know that isn't the RROD but that's the name those lights have...or do you want 1/2RROD? anyways those things can lead to a RROD or other problems :? never had the 1/2rrod lol, just 2 rrods, no warnings :(

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#27 mamkem6
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Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.TOAO_Cyrus1

I know this is not RROD

But Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft should take care that nothing happens to the consoles at a game show regardless it is RROD, YLOD, overheating...

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#28 jfcundiff
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I hope they fix their hardward problems next-gen. The RROD is one of the reasons I did not pick up an Xbox 360 this generation and got a PS3 and Wii instead. I cannot wait to see their next console and what it will look like.
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="MasterY_28"] Still made the console shut down. What a piece of cheap hardware. HALO Wars really looks ugly btw!Al3x_n90
I can make any console or PC do that, just block the vents and it will shut down automatically to prevent damage. Its just the 360 that has those obvious blinking lights.

i actually tried blocking the vents on my old pc to see what happens, with a Gigabyte motherboard(they put out way more heat than others) it didn't shut down, sadly.My 360 froze up on me a about 3 times(i think) and it was in a very well ventilated place, my ps3 never did that dough, even dough since about 4 months ago i had it standing on top of a big SD tv, and the flat part of the tv(lol) was not as wide as my ps3, so it's rear little legs thingys(lol) were in the air and the rear section of my ps3 was fllat on the tv.

And i know that isn't the RROD but that's the name those lights have...or do you want 1/2RROD? anyways those things can lead to a RROD or other problems :? never had the 1/2rrod lol, just 2 rrods, no warnings :(

RROD means red ring of death, not anyd red light code, I dont see any dead console there.

The error codes can mean allot of things, one of the most common is 4 lights which just means the A/V cable became disconnected and allot of people mistake that for RROD which is actually just 3 lights. Overheating isnt the direct cuase of RROD, there is no pattern of overheating and then failure that I know of. Most people just get it randomly. Remember this error code just means that the internal tempeture is too high, not that one of the chips actually overheated. Most PC BIOS's shut down only when the CPU overheats, not when the internal temp gets hot, running prime95 or some other torture test might do it.

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#30 McdonaIdsGuy
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INTRODUCTION

This article describes a problem where two of the lights on the front of your Xbox 360 console flash red. We've provided things that you can try to resolve the problem.

SYMPTOMS

The two left quadrants of the Ring of Light flash red on the front of your Xbox 360 console.

CAUSE

This problem may occur when the Xbox console is too hot or is overheating. The flashing lights mean that the internal temperature of your Xbox 360 console has exceeded acceptable temperature limits.

THINGS TO TRY

1.Let your Xbox 360 console cool. You may have to wait several hours for your Xbox 360 console to cool enough. Don't turn on your Xbox 360 console when the console is hot.

2.Verify that your Xbox 360 console has enough ventilation and that the fans are operating. For more information about ventilation, see the "More Information" section.

3.If the two lights continue to flash red after you try steps 1 and 2, contact Xbox Customer Support.

MORE INFORMATION

To try to prevent this problem, use the following precautions:

*Don't block any ventilation openings on your Xbox 360 console.

*Don't put your Xbox 360 console on a bed, on a sofa, on a carpet floor, or on any other soft surface that may block ventilation openings.

*Don't put your Xbox 360 console in a confined space, such as a bookcase, a rack, or a stereo cabinet, unless the space is well ventilated.


*Don't put your Xbox 360 console near any heat source, such as a radiator, a heat register, a stove, or an amplifier.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907533
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#31 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="IcEpicK22"]

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

MasterY_28
RROD is 3 red lights, that console has 2 which means it's just overheating, not a general hardware failure, hence your thread fails.

Still made the console shut down. What a piece of cheap hardware. HALO Wars really looks ugly btw!

ps3's overheat as well you know, and they break down at games conventions too, it's not just the 360.
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"] I can make any console or PC do that, just block the vents and it will shut down automatically to prevent damage. Its just the 360 that has those obvious blinking lights.TOAO_Cyrus1

i actually tried blocking the vents on my old pc to see what happens, with a Gigabyte motherboard(they put out way more heat than others) it didn't shut down, sadly.My 360 froze up on me a about 3 times(i think) and it was in a very well ventilated place, my ps3 never did that dough, even dough since about 4 months ago i had it standing on top of a big SD tv, and the flat part of the tv(lol) was not as wide as my ps3, so it's rear little legs thingys(lol) were in the air and the rear section of my ps3 was fllat on the tv.

And i know that isn't the RROD but that's the name those lights have...or do you want 1/2RROD? anyways those things can lead to a RROD or other problems :? never had the 1/2rrod lol, just 2 rrods, no warnings :(

The error codes can mean allot of things, one of the most common is 4 lights which just means the A/V cable became disconnected and allot of people mistake that for RROD which is actually just 3 lights. Overheating isnt the direct cuase of RROD, there is no pattern of overheating and then failure that I know of. Most people just get it randomly. Remember this error code just means that the internal tempeture is too high, not that one of the chips actually overheated. For your PC you would have to do it long enough to get the CPU to overheat, running prime95 or some other torture test might do it.

it's not over heating that causes RROD it's cyclic heat damage over time (expansion and contraction of the solder jounts) because the 360 changes temperature too rapidly, also EVERY pc will shutdown if the fan stops working, and comparing a pc tower with lots of room to breath to a 360 is nota fair comparison
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#33 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

i actually tried blocking the vents on my old pc to see what happens, with a Gigabyte motherboard(they put out way more heat than others) it didn't shut down, sadly.My 360 froze up on me a about 3 times(i think) and it was in a very well ventilated place, my ps3 never did that dough, even dough since about 4 months ago i had it standing on top of a big SD tv, and the flat part of the tv(lol) was not as wide as my ps3, so it's rear little legs thingys(lol) were in the air and the rear section of my ps3 was fllat on the tv.

And i know that isn't the RROD but that's the name those lights have...or do you want 1/2RROD? anyways those things can lead to a RROD or other problems :? never had the 1/2rrod lol, just 2 rrods, no warnings :(

delta3074

The error codes can mean allot of things, one of the most common is 4 lights which just means the A/V cable became disconnected and allot of people mistake that for RROD which is actually just 3 lights. Overheating isnt the direct cuase of RROD, there is no pattern of overheating and then failure that I know of. Most people just get it randomly. Remember this error code just means that the internal tempeture is too high, not that one of the chips actually overheated. For your PC you would have to do it long enough to get the CPU to overheat, running prime95 or some other torture test might do it.

it's not over heating that causes RROD it's cyclic heat damage over time (expansion and contraction of the solder jounts) because the 360 changes temperature too rapidly, also EVERY pc will shutdown if the fan stops working, and comparing a pc tower with lots of room to breath to a 360 is nota fair comparison

Yes if the fans stop working but not if the internal temp gets hot, you have to actually overheat the CPU to make it shut down.
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The amount of ignorance here surpasses Gametrailers forum.
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#35 MasterY_28
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.McdonaIdsGuy
The ones saying is RROD are pro ps3...and i doubt they own the xbox360 since they should know already that isn't RROD.

Who cares if it'S the OFFICIAL RROD or not? They'Re even dumber for putting the console in a small space like that! Only pro 360 fans are defending this. It's not PS3 fans fault that they give a good reason to bash the 360 on this one.
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#36 Skittles_McGee
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You mean the 360 will shut itself off if its not in a well-ventilated area in order to prevent it from being needlessly damaged? Yeah. It totally fails. :|
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Omg! 360 RRODs? This is quite shocking news indeed. :shock:
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.MasterY_28
The ones saying is RROD are pro ps3...and i doubt they own the xbox360 since they should know already that isn't RROD.

Who cares if it'S the OFFICIAL RROD or not? They'Re even dumber for putting the console in a small space like that! Only pro 360 fans are defending this. It's not PS3 fans fault that they give a good reason to bash the 360 on this one.

Ok so someone was dumb, why does that justify spreading lies around the internet, possibly influencing someone not to buy a 360? If your going to mock the 360 at least get the facts straight.
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Yes if the fans stop working but not if the internal temp gets hot, you have to actually overheat the CPU to make it shut down.TOAO_Cyrus1
its always the GPU overheating that causes th 360 to shut down, not the CPU, my main point is that RROD being caused by overheating is a myth, it's the rapid cool down that does the damage.
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#40 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Yes if the fans stop working but not if the internal temp gets hot, you have to actually overheat the CPU to make it shut down.delta3074
its always the GPU overheating that causes th 360 to shut down, not the CPU, my main point is that RROD being caused by overheating is a myth, it's the rapid cool down that does the damage.

Actually its the internal temp of the 360 that causes it to get that error code, not the GPU. The GPU is mostly responsible for RROD. And I was talkign about making a PC shut down through overheating.
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#41 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Yes if the fans stop working but not if the internal temp gets hot, you have to actually overheat the CPU to make it shut down.TOAO_Cyrus1
its always the GPU overheating that causes th 360 to shut down, not the CPU, my main point is that RROD being caused by overheating is a myth, it's the rapid cool down that does the damage.

Actually its the internal temp of the 360 that causes it to get that error code, not the GPU. The GPU is mostly responsible for RROD. And I was talkign about making a PC shut down through overheating.

and which part of a 360 makes the internal temperature too high? the gpu,don't get me wrong, i know PC's are far more reliable than xbox 360's,i hope myself too one day have a decent gaming pc, but any console would overheat in that little box.
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#42 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="delta3074"]its always the GPU overheating that causes th 360 to shut down, not the CPU, my main point is that RROD being caused by overheating is a myth, it's the rapid cool down that does the damage.delta3074
Actually its the internal temp of the 360 that causes it to get that error code, not the GPU. The GPU is mostly responsible for RROD. And I was talkign about making a PC shut down through overheating.

and which part of a 360 makes the internal temperature too high? the gpu,don't get me wrong, i know PC's are far more reliable than xbox 360's,i hope myself too one day have a decent gaming pc, but any console would overheat in that little box.

Actually poor ventilation does it, it would still happen with a cooler GPU but it might take longer.
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#43 Eddie5vs1
Member since 2004 • 6085 Posts
I love my 360, but this is just getting pathetic. Come on MS, get it together. It sounds like a total hardware design may be needed.
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#44 50u1r34v3r
Member since 2006 • 1560 Posts

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]Whats embarressing is all the people in this thread and the one linked that actually think this is RROD.MasterY_28
The ones saying is RROD are pro ps3...and i doubt they own the xbox360 since they should know already that isn't RROD.

Who cares if it'S the OFFICIAL RROD or not? They'Re even dumber for putting the console in a small space like that! Only pro 360 fans are defending this. It's not PS3 fans fault that they give a good reason to bash the 360 on this one.

Now I'm not trying to defend teh 360 here, but any electronic device can overheat if you put it in a small closed space.

Even PS3.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10/04/ps3_heat_claim/

What I don't understand is why they still do this when they demo consoles.

Why not put them somewhere in the back with lots of space to breath.

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#45 EuropeGangsta
Member since 2009 • 185 Posts
Failure rate is only 33%, so when one breaks out of many it's shocking indeed. Somehow people on these forums think games consoles are prone to overheating.
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#46 TheOddQuantum
Member since 2008 • 2472 Posts
That's unfortunate.
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#47 AdmiralBison
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Link1

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

IcEpicK22
ha ha ha. I admit it is funny. I guess the RROD will live in infamy with the Xbox360. Other then that, that really is the only problem with the Xbox360. Xbox360 is serving as a great games machine ;)
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#48 glenn2709
Member since 2005 • 1719 Posts
This is one of the reason why I still don't have a 360.
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#49 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="IcEpicK22"]

Link1

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:| idk what to say....jasper?

AdmiralBison
ha ha ha. I admit it is funny. I guess the RROD will live in infamy with the Xbox360. Other then that, that really is the only problem with the Xbox360. Xbox360 is serving as a great games machine ;)

Ahh... yes it's not the RROD I still stand bye with everything I said though. he he he. never a dull moment when you have a Xbox360.
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#50 50u1r34v3r
Member since 2006 • 1560 Posts

Failure rate is only 33%, so when one breaks out of many it's shocking indeed. Somehow people on these forums think games consoles are prone to overheating.EuropeGangsta

Beeeeeeeeeeeep. Sarcasm detecter overloaded.

Seriously though: the failure rate is way too high, but can we stop throwing out numbers that are pulled out of thin air.