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#1 Liquid_47
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Hey I was wondering if you guys could help me.

Whenever I flick the HD settings to 1080i on my 360, the image is too large for my screen.

I do have one of the older models of HDTV, but I was wondering if this can be fixed.

I don't wanna stick with 480p all through this gen :(
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#2 apolloluke
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this is system wars...

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#3 Riverwolf007
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Hey I was wondering if you guys could help me.

Whenever I flick the HD settings to 1080i on my 360, the image is too large for my screen.

I do have one of the older models of HDTV, but I was wondering if this can be fixed.

I don't wanna stick with 480p all through this gen :(Liquid_47
I had a buddy that had this sort of problem, his tv was not widescreen(16:9) but the old screen size (4:3), if your screen is (4:3) I don't believe there is a fix, it down converts the signal to 480p on (4:3) size screens.
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#4 Liquid_47
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Yeah I know. But funnily enough System Wars has all the answers.

 How about this:

If this is going to be a major problem then I'll just give up my 360 and go for a Wii.

Better? 

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#5 Liquid_47
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[QUOTE="Liquid_47"]

Hey I was wondering if you guys could help me.

Whenever I flick the HD settings to 1080i on my 360, the image is too large for my screen.

I do have one of the older models of HDTV, but I was wondering if this can be fixed.

I don't wanna stick with 480p all through this gen :(Riverwolf007

I had a buddy that had this sort of problem, his tv was not widescreen(16:9) but the old screen size (4:3), if your screen is (4:3) I don't believe there is a fix, it down converts the signal to 480p on (4:3) size screens.

Nah it is 16:9 so it's good in that respect.

It's just that it's cropped around the edges a bit - I don't get the full image.

And Gears just looks so sexay on 1080i compared to blimmin' 480p. 

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#6 apolloluke
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have you tried setting it on 720p?

it seems like a scaling problem with your tv.

 another option might be buying the vga cable...

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have you tried setting it on 720p?

it seems like a scaling problem with your tv.

another option might be buying the vga cable...

apolloluke

Yeah my TV can't do 720p -sigh-.

Yeah I think it's a scaling problem too... I'm not that techy, but could it be that the 360 scales the stuff as well as my TV doing it? 

And what does the VGA cable offer compared to my component one? 

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Hmmm, ok then, how about the tv itself mine has some different settings to manipulate the image like zoom, 4:3 expanded, 4:3 zoom things like that, sometimes it auto detects the signal and changes those settings to get the best picture and sometimes it picks the wrong things, check to see if you can change anything like that on the tv.
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[QUOTE="apolloluke"]

have you tried setting it on 720p?

it seems like a scaling problem with your tv.

another option might be buying the vga cable...

Liquid_47

Yeah my TV can't do 720p -sigh-.

Yeah I think it's a scaling problem too... I'm not that techy, but could it be that the 360 scales the stuff as well as my TV doing it?

And what does the VGA cable offer compared to my component one?

 the 360 does not scale. it simply outputs at the resolution that you choose.

 by getting a vga cable your tv might scale the signal differently and may not crop it. its worth a try for sure.

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Hmmm, ok then, how about the tv itself mine has some different settings to manipulate the image like zoom, 4:3 expanded, 4:3 zoom things like that, sometimes it auto detects the signal and changes those settings to get the best picture and sometimes it picks the wrong things, check to see if you can change anything like that on the tv.Riverwolf007

Lol that does sound like my TV...

Do you have a Philips? 

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Hmmm, ok then, how about the tv itself mine has some different settings to manipulate the image like zoom, 4:3 expanded, 4:3 zoom things like that, sometimes it auto detects the signal and changes those settings to get the best picture and sometimes it picks the wrong things, check to see if you can change anything like that on the tv.Liquid_47

Lol that does sound like my TV...

Do you have a Philips? 

A lot of HD tvs (all, perhaps?) have those options.  Just mess around with your tv settings after getting the 360 set up correctly.
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[QUOTE="Liquid_47"][QUOTE="apolloluke"]

have you tried setting it on 720p?

it seems like a scaling problem with your tv.

another option might be buying the vga cable...

apolloluke

Yeah my TV can't do 720p -sigh-.

Yeah I think it's a scaling problem too... I'm not that techy, but could it be that the 360 scales the stuff as well as my TV doing it?

And what does the VGA cable offer compared to my component one?

the 360 does not scale. it simply outputs at the resolution that you choose.

by getting a vga cable your tv might scale the signal differently and may not crop it. its worth a try for sure.

Oh okay that's cool then.

If it doesn't work it's either playing 480p fullscreen or 1080i with 15% of the image lost lol.

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#13 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Liquid_47"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Hmmm, ok then, how about the tv itself mine has some different settings to manipulate the image like zoom, 4:3 expanded, 4:3 zoom things like that, sometimes it auto detects the signal and changes those settings to get the best picture and sometimes it picks the wrong things, check to see if you can change anything like that on the tv.Jandurin

Lol that does sound like my TV...

Do you have a Philips? 

A lot of HD tvs (all, perhaps?) have those options.  Just mess around with your tv settings after getting the 360 set up correctly.

Hitachi, and its pretty old as far as tv tech goes its projection and the thing looks like a bus parked in my living room, but man does it have a great picture for an older HDTV. You need to call MS tech support and see if they know whats going on with your tv.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Liquid_47"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Hmmm, ok then, how about the tv itself mine has some different settings to manipulate the image like zoom, 4:3 expanded, 4:3 zoom things like that, sometimes it auto detects the signal and changes those settings to get the best picture and sometimes it picks the wrong things, check to see if you can change anything like that on the tv.Riverwolf007

Lol that does sound like my TV...

Do you have a Philips?

A lot of HD tvs (all, perhaps?) have those options. Just mess around with your tv settings after getting the 360 set up correctly.

Hitachi, and its pretty old as far as tv tech goes its projection and the thing looks like a bus parked in my living room, but man does it have a great picture for an older HDTV. You need to call MS tech support and see if they know whats going on with your tv.

Yeah I think I will actually.

Damn was it almost perfect lol. 

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This isn't a scaling problem, it's an overscan problem.  Many HDTV's, especially CRT rear projection HDTV's like yours, have various amounts of overscan used to fill the screen with the image.  Sometimes these settings can get messed up in moves, be jarred or hit, or just plain move over time.  The only way to fix it is to enter the service menu of your set and change it.  It's dangerous because you can permantly screw up your set if you don't know what you're doing.  It's usually best left to an ISF certified calibrator.
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The only way to fix it is to enter the service menu of your set and change it.ramey70
I messed with that stuff in my Samsung (well, 1 specific thing).  It's a weird looking menu, I'll tell you
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#17 Liquid_47
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This isn't a scaling problem, it's an overscan problem. Many HDTV's, especially CRT rear projection HDTV's like yours, have various amounts of overscan used to fill the screen with the image. Sometimes these settings can get messed up in moves, be jarred or hit, or just plain move over time. The only way to fix it is to enter the service menu of your set and change it. It's dangerous because you can permantly screw up your set if you don't know what you're doing. It's usually best left to an ISF certified calibrator.ramey70

 Ok thankyou. I really appreciate your help. In fact I appreciate all your help.

-stares at PGR 3 on 1080i-

Even if I can't get this to work.... damn.... I swear I'm almost looking at a real car! 

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#18 Riverwolf007
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This isn't a scaling problem, it's an overscan problem.  Many HDTV's, especially CRT rear projection HDTV's like yours, have various amounts of overscan used to fill the screen with the image.  Sometimes these settings can get messed up in moves, be jarred or hit, or just plain move over time.  The only way to fix it is to enter the service menu of your set and change it.  It's dangerous because you can permantly screw up your set if you don't know what you're doing.  It's usually best left to an ISF certified calibrator.ramey70
Yeah nice catch, I forgot about that, my tv has some sort of auto correction for that called magic scan that I believe is used to resize the picture and adjust the colors for maintenence. Look around in your menu and see if there is anything like that, that can be used to fix it.
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[QUOTE="ramey70"]This isn't a scaling problem, it's an overscan problem. Many HDTV's, especially CRT rear projection HDTV's like yours, have various amounts of overscan used to fill the screen with the image. Sometimes these settings can get messed up in moves, be jarred or hit, or just plain move over time. The only way to fix it is to enter the service menu of your set and change it. It's dangerous because you can permantly screw up your set if you don't know what you're doing. It's usually best left to an ISF certified calibrator.Riverwolf007
Yeah nice catch, I forgot about that, my tv has some sort of auto correction for that called magic scan that I believe is used to resize the picture and adjust the colors for maintenence. Look around in your menu and see if there is anything like that, that can be used to fix it.

Apparently everything is disabled when I'm in the "High Def" mode - zoom, picture format etc.... grrr..Â