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#1 BlackTragedy
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how many old consoles do you have in your house. how many still work like nes, genesis, commadore 64 ect. DO you think 15 years from now your gonna be able to go back and play your 360.

new xbox comes out micro drops all support for 360. How do you play your old games.

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#2 Duckyindiana
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How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.
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#3 chikenfriedrice
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How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.Duckyindiana

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

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how many old consoles do you have in your house. how many still work like nes, genesis, commadore 64 ect. DO you think 15 years from now your gonna be able to go back and play your 360.

new xbox comes out micro drops all support for 360. How do you play your old games.

BlackTragedy

Sony took out the Backward Capabilities to play ps2 games on PS3, So I'd be P.O'd like you too :p

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#5 MonsieurX
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How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.Duckyindiana
It's easier to bash the other side than praise your own,good ole' politics.
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I bought 4 ps2s and all of them died on me. The current ps3 models can't play ps2 games.

If people are willing to buy ps3s knowing it can't play ps2 games it won't stop people from buying the next xbox even if they didn't have 360 bc.

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guess what? i had those systems you named and they all broke on me. dont even get me started on NES.i almost blew a lung blowing into cartridges
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.chikenfriedrice

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

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#9 T-Aldous
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Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

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#10 Shinobi120
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How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.Duckyindiana

People like him stillthink that this is like last gen.:roll: The only reason why MS dropped support for the original X-Box was because it was bleeding them dry of their money, as well as most 3rd party games not selling well on it. It will most likely be the other way around for Sony once they put out the PS4. And you can be sure that Microsoft's next X-Box console would be BC with 360 games.

MS isn't going to drop support for the 360 when it's making them money & that more games keeps coming out for it, just like with the PS2.

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#11 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

how many old consoles do you have in your house. how many still work like nes, genesis, commadore 64 ect. DO you think 15 years from now your gonna be able to go back and play your 360.

new xbox comes out micro drops all support for 360. How do you play your old games.

scarface_dm

Sony took out the Backward Capabilities to play ps2 games on PS3, So I'd be P.O'd like you too :p

i have a ps2 and a ps3 with backwards compatibility so im poed about nothing. but wheres the backwards compatibility for nes catrages. there is none. unless you rebuy your game.

SAME IS GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THINGS GO ALL DIGITAL. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOUR 360 WILL BE AROUND AND KICKING IN 15 YEARS.

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#12 rp108
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Wow, the rabid fanboys are in mass hysteria over the NPD numbers. Not even sure anymore if the posts and threads I have been reading are sarcasm or not.

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#13 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.BlackTragedy

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

Says you, i'm a game collector and i love the 360 so imo your opinion is incorrect.
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Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

T-Aldous

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

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#15 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

Duckyindiana

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

Says you, i'm a game collector and i love the 360 so imo your opinion is incorrect.

again avoiding the question. I dont care if you love your 360. I asked if you really think that thing is going to work in 15 years.

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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

BlackTragedy

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

Same could be said about the next Playstation and who knows if your ps3 will still be about in 15yrs.
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#17 BlackTragedy
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Wow, the rabid fanboys are in mass hysteria over the NPD numbers. Not even sure anymore if the posts and threads I have been reading are sarcasm or not.

rp108

you act like there is sometype of ownage in the ndp numbers. I saw them and there isnt. Another lem avoids answering a difficult question by running to the irrelevant ndp numbers

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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

BlackTragedy

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

LOL! If you seriously think that Full DD is coming next gen, especially when we're still in a bad recession & that not everyone owns online, you're delusional. Especially when the internet speeds aren't still up to snuff as well as them being costly. Plus there are still other physical formats out there, such as HVD.

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how many old consoles do you have in your house. how many still work like nes, genesis, commadore 64 ect. DO you think 15 years from now your gonna be able to go back and play your 360.

new xbox comes out micro drops all support for 360. How do you play your old games.

BlackTragedy

Don't compare something running a motorola 68k clocked at 33 mhz or a zilog whatever to today's gen consoles. Last gen consoles were plagued with DRE problems and this gen both 360 and ps3 are plagued with hardware failures due to the use of high lead solders. The 360 breaks early due to the eDram snapping out of place because of the eat (60/70 ºC). Eutectic solder would have solved those problems. But you pay for what you get, you want cheap, you get cheap flasky hardware.

The true backwards compatible, collector friendly platform is the pc.

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#20 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

BlackTragedy

Says you, i'm a game collector and i love the 360 so imo your opinion is incorrect.

again avoiding the question. I dont care if you love your 360. I asked if you really think that thing is going to work in 15 years.

How do you know it won't be? You don't thats the thing, so what is the point of this unless you have a time machine we can discuss this in 15yrs ok.
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

Duckyindiana

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

Same could be said about the next Playstation and who knows if your ps3 will still be about in 15yrs.

my ps3 has a much higher chance of survival then your 360.

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#22 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

garland51

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

LOL! If you seriously think that Full DD is coming next gen, especially when we're still in a bad recession & that not everyone owns online, you're delusional. Especially when the internet speeds aren't still up to snuff as well as them being costly. Plus there are still other physical formats out there, such as HVD.

I said 15 years didnt I. not next gen.

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how many old consoles do you have in your house. how many still work like nes, genesis, commadore 64 ect. DO you think 15 years from now your gonna be able to go back and play your 360.

new xbox comes out micro drops all support for 360. How do you play your old games.

BlackTragedy
You play them on the new system - unlike Sony and the PS3 which doesn't support Backwards Compatibility.
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

BlackTragedy

Same could be said about the next Playstation and who knows if your ps3 will still be about in 15yrs.

my ps3 has a much higher chance of survival then your 360.

care to tell me if the world will end in 2012 since you claim to know the future :roll:

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#25 Duckyindiana
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my ps3 has a much higher chance of survival then your 360.

BlackTragedy

Yes it might but you can not prove it, my 360 might be working in 15yrs while your ps3 is not so again what is the point of this unless we are here in 15yrs saying the 360 is bad for game collectors is incorrect.

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#26 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]How do you know they will drop all support this time? And the new Xbox might play 360 games! And for a Ps3 fan you seem to talk about the 360 alot.BlackTragedy

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

lol it is too it has an amazing game library

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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

BlackTragedy

Same could be said about the next Playstation and who knows if your ps3 will still be about in 15yrs.

my ps3 has a much higher chance of survival then your 360.

Oh yea I run 5 miles twice a week. Also my grandma bakes these out of the world pumkin pies. Beat that.

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Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

T-Aldous
but isnt 360 B/C not "fully Backwards compatible"? Example,i have have NBA Ballers(xbox) and it doesnt work on my 360 and if the game is B/C, it has problems with emulation? Example Knights of the old republic is listed on 360 B/C list and the game is virtually unplayable(horrible Framerate issues and freezes). im just wondering if they fixed this.
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"] Same could be said about the next Playstation and who knows if your ps3 will still be about in 15yrs.scarface_dm

my ps3 has a much higher chance of survival then your 360.

care to tell me if the world will end in 2012 since you claim to know the future :roll:

you dont need to have ems to see that 360 failure rate is fall worse then 360s. So it will be the same in the future.

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All the consoles this gen have an expiration date, as they're not solid state hardware. With the heat and all the moving parts, this generation of systems will all break. It's just a matter of when. Fact.

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#31 The_Game21x
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Seeing as Microsoft is planning to support the 360 until around 2015, I don't think there's anything to worry about in that regard. :)

Besides, for all we know, Microsoft could be planning to make the 360's successor fully backward compatible with 360 games.

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#32 chikenfriedrice
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All the consoles this gen have an expiration date, as they're not solid state hardware. With the heat and all the moving parts, this generation of systems will all break. It's just a matter of when. Fact.

BioShockOwnz

and this goes for pretty much any high tech electronic device

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#33 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

he is in a cow tail spin still from the NPD's

chikenfriedrice

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

lol it is too it has an amazing game library

when a system craps out as much as the 360 unless the warranty is for life don't expect to be gaming on it in 15 years.

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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

Well considering MS actually kept B/C instead of lying about important it is and later cutting it....cough....Sony....cough, I am pretty sure the neew Xbox will be B/C too.

BlackTragedy

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

power brick, RROD, Gold subscription, scratching disks, DVD only, multiple disks, 360 kills people, sounds like a vacum cleaner etc etc, now we are going to attack the system if the damn thing will be good for collectors? you want to argue about something we have to wait 15 years to find out if your arguement holds any truth, this is honestly starting to get sad.

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Here's something for you. So I have an NES that doesn't work. In fact, almost all of my friends have a broken NES somewhere. So what do we do about it? Do we curse at Nintendo for making a console that had a fundamental flaw in it's design? No. We take it apart and fix them ourselves. "Oh no! We broke it! What do we do?". Well, we walk down to the local value village and pick up another NES for $5 and start again. They actually have companies that manufacture replacement parts for the NES on eBay. What makes the 360 different? Nothing. In 15 years I'll be able to go to value village and pick up a dead 360 for $5 and go fix it myself with some after-market parts, just like collectors do today.
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#36 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

omg this has nothing to do with 360 selling only 100k units more. Why do you ppl bring this up constantly to avoid the truth. The 360 is not a good console for game collectors.

BlackTragedy

lol it is too it has an amazing game library

when a system craps out as much as the 360 unless the warranty is for life don't expect to be gaming on it in 15 years.

well me personally will not be playing an xbox 360 in 15 years

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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

WE ARE APPROCHING AN ALL DIGITAL AGE. dont expect ever single new console to have b/c with old physical media.

BlackTragedy

LOL! If you seriously think that Full DD is coming next gen, especially when we're still in a bad recession & that not everyone owns online, you're delusional. Especially when the internet speeds aren't still up to snuff as well as them being costly. Plus there are still other physical formats out there, such as HVD.

I said 15 years didnt I. not next gen.

if the future is all digital, then whatever system is out at the time might give you the opportunity to just download old games, so why even bother keeping old systems around?