360 is unable to compete graphically with PS3

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

I have both a 360 and ps3 and I think your wrong, uncharted is a nice looking game but the graphic are way overrate in SW

There are hardly any 360 games with console-specific engines.

Theres also very little difference in graphics between 99% of the games. So I don't see how it can't "compete" Rememeber Xbox 1 and PS2? Now thats a graphics difference that "can't" compete.

Well the PS3 looks the same as the 360(in cod). Can't tell the difference. I think Gears Of War had some pretty damn good graphics but it's an old game so you be the judge.

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or picsor accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Kittonick

Oh please. I have a 360, ps3 and powerful pc. I personally want Sony to win because i hate Microsoft's culture.

But despite wanting Sony to win, I will say this:

1. Apple to apple, the 360's hardware results in higher graphical yield. You can see in the CryEngine 3 demo by Crytek. The ps3 sucks at HDR Lighting and Bloom

2. Ps3 doesn't handle textures very well. Hi-res textures that is. You can see it in Killzone 2 and many other games.

3. The two things the ps3 is good at is storage and processing. Killzone 2's lighting is superb due to the lighting engine, which relates to parallel cpu processing. But when the gpu is involved, sad to say the 260 is better.

I have both a 360 and ps3 and I think your wrong, uncharted is a nice looking game but the graphic are way overrate in SW

onewiththegame

What looks better than uncharted on 360?

do we really need another thread like this

[QUOTE="Kittonick"]

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or picsor accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

jhcho2

Oh please. I have a 360, ps3 and powerful pc. I personally want Sony to win because i hate Microsoft's culture.

But despite wanting Sony to win, I will say this:

1. Apple to apple, the 360's hardware results in higher graphical yield. You can see in the CryEngine 3 demo by Crytek. The ps3 sucks at HDR Lighting and Bloom

2. Ps3 doesn't handle textures very well. Hi-res textures that is. You can see it in Killzone 2 and many other games.

3. The two things the ps3 is good at is storage and processing. Killzone 2's lighting is superb due to the lighting engine, which relates to parallel cpu processing. But when the gpu is involved, sad to say the 260 is better.

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I have both a 360 and ps3 and I think your wrong, uncharted is a nice looking game but the graphic are way overrate in SW

brumley53

What looks better than uncharted on 360?

The whole looks better thing can be fairly subjective. Are we talking about looking better from a technical standpoint, or just presentation? Presentation varies from game to game, and different people like different things. But from a technical standpoint, we can go glose up to pay attention to the detail and textures where we will find the true inadequancy of the ps3.

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Kittonick

If anything, the Xbox 360 has the most potential

To elaborate on what I said earlier, There are very few Xbox 360 games that use engine specifically designed for the system. The best looking game, Gears of War, runs on a third party multiplatform engine UE3. The potential is there because we haven't really seen anything made for it. Which is why theres a lot of hype behind Bungies new engine with Halo Reach.

PS3 on the other, games all use engine specifically tailored for the PS3 and ONLY the PS3. Naughty Dog and Insomniac are not going to create new engines, but rather improve the existing ones. So the potential is lower.

[QUOTE="brumley53"]

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

I have both a 360 and ps3 and I think your wrong, uncharted is a nice looking game but the graphic are way overrate in SW

jhcho2

What looks better than uncharted on 360?

The whole looks better thing can be fairly subjective. Are we talking about looking better from a technical standpoint, or just presentation? Presentation varies from game to game, and different people like different things. But from a technical standpoint, we can go glose up to pay attention to the detail and textures where we will find the true inadequancy of the ps3.

This is close up of uncharted and gears

http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.html

although you've probably already seen it.

Its not an opinion, its a fact!!! Theres no point in arguing, no point in explaining, posting pictures or discussing.

The mind has been made up, the fact has been created, the logic misplaced, the debating skills lost, the reasoning destroyed, and any single form of intelligence appears to be non existent.

(all of the above is an opinion, but ive yet to decide whether or not to make it a fact).....

Lems will be paying stuff like ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 this year, they look at least a generation behind current PS3 games. How you can say 360 can match PS3 in graphics when you have no games to backup your claimsboggles my mind. It's like saying PS2 games looked as good as Xbox games, we know they didn't. Same way we know 360 has no games that look as good as PS3 exclusives in 2009 and beyond. I own a 360/PS3, I like the 360. But it's games are all starting to look the same, where as PS3 games continue to improve by a great deal.

I think once God of war 3 comes out it lemmings will finally admit defeat.

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="Kittonick"]

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or picsor accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Toriko42

Oh please. I have a 360, ps3 and powerful pc. I personally want Sony to win because i hate Microsoft's culture.

But despite wanting Sony to win, I will say this:

1. Apple to apple, the 360's hardware results in higher graphical yield. You can see in the CryEngine 3 demo by Crytek. The ps3 sucks at HDR Lighting and Bloom

2. Ps3 doesn't handle textures very well. Hi-res textures that is. You can see it in Killzone 2 and many other games.

3. The two things the ps3 is good at is storage and processing. Killzone 2's lighting is superb due to the lighting engine, which relates to parallel cpu processing. But when the gpu is involved, sad to say the 260 is better.

I don't play on xbox live. But if it's any indication, you can check my games list. Note that i have 360 games on that list. Unless you think that i added them in merely to convince people like you that i have a 360, then i have nothing to say, apart from the fact that people who think that way are pathetic.

And i hate Microsoft's culture because of their business strategies. Example...Square Enix recently said that they want to make both versions of FF13 for ps3 and 360 absolutely equal. ie. even if the ps3 is capable of something, they refuse to fully utilize the ps3's capabilities. What could a 3rd party developer possibly gain by making both versions equal? I can understand their decision to go multiplatform, but why must both versions be the same? Is it any concern to them if the 360 version is inferior and more people opt for the ps3 version? whether it's 50-50 or 30-70 ratio of sales for the ps3 or 360 wouldn't matter, as long as it sells. The answer is that Microsoft wanted them to make it equal, as a result limiting the whole game to the lowest common denominator. I'm not surprised if it happened to GTA4 as well.

Oh yeah, need i say controlled content on xbox live? Remember back then when devs wanted to release content for free, and microsoft insist on them charging so they get their cut? Charging for an online service which has been free on any other platform all this while? Microsoft is a typical american capitalist company.

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Kittonick

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Lems will be paying stuff like ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 this year, they look at least a generation behind current PS3 games. How you can say 360 can match PS3 in graphics when you have no games to backup your claimsboggles my mind. It's like saying PS2 games looked as good as Xbox games, we know they didn't. Same way we know 360 has no games that look as good as PS3 exclusives in 2009 and beyond. I own a 360/PS3, I like the 360. But it's games are all starting to look the same, where as PS3 games continue to improve by a great deal.

I think once God of war 3 comes out it lemmings will finally admit defeat.

Kittonick

You cannot debate whether or not a console system is capable of producing better graphics from games. You have to consider the surround circumstances and the developer's situation. Game development is not that simple. I think I've presented a far more logical case then yours. Yet you haven't directly responded.

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="brumley53"]

What looks better than uncharted on 360?

brumley53

The whole looks better thing can be fairly subjective. Are we talking about looking better from a technical standpoint, or just presentation? Presentation varies from game to game, and different people like different things. But from a technical standpoint, we can go glose up to pay attention to the detail and textures where we will find the true inadequancy of the ps3.

This is close up of uncharted and gears

http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.html

although you've probably already seen it.

Not sure, neither the Uncharted nor the Gears pics are attractive in any sense.

[QUOTE="Kittonick"]

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

MortalDecay

Well its been ages since an xbox game looked better than a ps3 game so its currently not looking good for the xbox.

Castle Crashers > Everything lol even Crysis

I do care about graphics, but that's why I own a gaming PC.

crysis 2

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megapikachu101

Crysis 2 will be no different than Crysis 1. no home pc can even run Crysis at the highest settings at 60fps. i doubt Crytek will push the boundary to a new unachievable level.

I do care about graphics, but that's why I own a gaming PC.

shawn7324

And why I want one.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Kittonick"]

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

brumley53

Well its been ages since an xbox game looked better than a ps3 game so its currently not looking good for the xbox.

[QUOTE="brumley53"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] You say the 360 currently has nothing to compete with the 360 graphics wise, so, that's it...The war is over. You do realize there are still games being made for the 360, right? What makes you think a game won't come out for the 360, and blow the PS3 away? Are you a dev? Do you know the inner workings of the 360? Do you know what it can do? So far your logic sucks, so I doubt it.snakefist5000

Well its been ages since an xbox game looked better than a ps3 game so its currently not looking good for the xbox.

Well i was speaking graphics wise, and it doesnt look like it will all of a sudden come up with a game that blows away the ps3.

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Kittonick

Agree :)

[QUOTE="snakefist5000"][QUOTE="brumley53"]

Well its been ages since an xbox game looked better than a ps3 game so its currently not looking good for the xbox.

brumley53

Well i was speaking graphics wise, and it doesnt look like it will all of a sudden come up with a game that blows away the ps3.

sounds like hermits are butt hurt because everyone isnt praising a game with **** gameplay.

brumley53

Crysis was more fun than Uncharted.

Not to mention the huge modding community dropping a constant supply of new content. Check out this D&D RPG made using the engine:

I still think the original Uncharted looks better than anything we've ever seen on 360. But PS3 has surpassed Uncharted with Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GT5, God Of war 3, The Last Guardian. There is nothing on the 360 that looks as good as the games I've listed above. Nothing even comes close, the gap is huge.Which leads me to believe the 360 has maxed out while the PS3 still has lots left in the tank. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Either show me 360 games that match Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God Of war 3, or leave and don't try to argue a case you can't win.

Put up your list or pics or accept that PS3 is more powerful and has better looking games.

Kittonick

sounds like hermits are butt hurt because everyone isnt praising a game with **** gameplay.

brumley53

As we english like to say, "the proof is in the pudding"

Who cares? I play games with good gameplay not ones with good graphics. How is this a bad thing for the xbox?snakefist5000

Well i was speaking graphics wise, and it doesnt look like it will all of a sudden come up with a game that blows away the ps3.

[QUOTE="snakefist5000"][QUOTE="brumley53"]

Well i was speaking graphics wise, and it doesnt look like it will all of a sudden come up with a game that blows away the ps3.

shawn7324

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

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jhcho2

Everybody knows that Crysis is unbeatable, must you hermits post these pics everytime there is a console graphical debate? The first pic is a bullshot by the way. Graphics at that level is only achievable by Crytek's computers.

[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

crysis 2

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jhcho2

Crysis 2 will be no different than Crysis 1. no home pc can even run Crysis at the highest settings at 60fps. i doubt Crytek will push the boundary to a new unachievable level.

Lems will be paying stuff like ODST and Left 4 Dead 2 this year, they look at least a generation behind current PS3 games. How you can say 360 can match PS3 in graphics when you have no games to backup your claimsboggles my mind. It's like saying PS2 games looked as good as Xbox games, we know they didn't. Same way we know 360 has no games that look as good as PS3 exclusives in 2009 and beyond. I own a 360/PS3, I like the 360. But it's games are all starting to look the same, where as PS3 games continue to improve by a great deal.

I think once God of war 3 comes out it lemmings will finally admit defeat.

Kittonick

Yeah, makes sense since AC looks better on the 360 and AC2 is coming out this year and looks AMAZING!!! But oh yeah, the 360 is just SO underpowered when compared to the grill we like to call a PS3. Keep having fun living in lala land buddy!